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Posted: May 6, 2009, 9:58 am - IP Logged

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Can you explain Width Range, Decades, and Root Sum?? It doesn't look like there is a way to save anything?? Also what is 'Import Combinations'?? I have tried to look for a help line. Have looked at the web page and am trying to understand that.

 

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    Width Range involves the number distance from the first and last number in a combo for example the combo  ( 5,6,9,23,34 ) 5-34= 29 this is the Width Range,Decades are the number group sections where the numbers are drawn from ( 1-9,10-19,20-29,30-36 ) in Pick-5 5/36 game format and Root Sums are the reduced sum of a combination for example ( 5,6,9,23,34 ) the sum of this combo is 77 when you add 77 together you get 14 now add 14 and you get ( 5 ) this is the Root Sum.Import combos is your personal combos that are put into the programs generated combo list,you would import them from a text file or document file into the software for use.The program has no help file I learned from trial and error how too use some of the other filters I wasn't familiar with and yes you cannot save any filter selections but I think you can save combo selections.

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      thanks! great information.

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        i am having trouble with ls2004. when i go to select numbers it completely shuts down. anybody else have that problem??

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          Maybe you could write a User Manual for LS2004: Along with some Playing Strategies...

          Doesn't good software come with such?

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            Posted: May 12, 2009, 10:16 am - IP Logged

            you have the same problem??

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              Doesn't good software come with such?

              What?

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                What?

                I was thinking of software like Lotto Pro and VesaBet that have PDF manuals for their programs that can be downloaded even if a trial copy of their program is not down loaded.

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                  I was thinking of software like Lotto Pro and VesaBet that have PDF manuals for their programs that can be downloaded even if a trial copy of their program is not down loaded.

                  The fact of the matter is:

                  In many cases: Users don't have the manual, and if they did, they wouldn't read it.

                  Unfortunately: Users can't read anything, and if they could, they don't want to.

                  When they do software usability tests: There are quite a few users who simply do not read words that are put on the screen:  If the software pops up an error box of any sort: Users simply will not read it.

                  A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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                    Posted: May 13, 2009, 10:47 pm - IP Logged

                    First:

                    How many combinations can the program produce and check, Is there a limit?

                    Next:

                    How many combinations max if there is a limit, can the program import into it for checking against filter patterns and reducing them?

                    Thanks!

                    I think that the Pc's memory might put a limitation, but other than that.....?

                    -----------

                    One can learn some about wheeling and about patterns, by looking at combinations such as these.

                    (01)-01-02-03-04-05-
                    (02)-01-02-03-04-06-
                    (03)-01-02-03-04-07-
                    (04)-01-02-03-04-08-
                    (05)-01-02-03-04-09-
                    (06)-01-02-03-04-10-
                    (07)-01-02-03-04-11-
                    (08)-01-02-03-04-12-
                    (09)-01-02-03-04-13-
                    (10)-01-02-03-04-14-
                    (11)-01-02-03-04-15-
                    (12)-01-02-03-04-16-
                    (13)-01-02-03-04-17-
                    (14)-01-02-03-04-18-
                    (15)-01-02-03-04-19-
                    (16)-01-02-03-04-20-
                    (17)-01-02-03-04-21-
                    (18)-01-02-03-04-22-
                    (19)-01-02-03-04-23-
                    (20)-01-02-03-04-24

                    (575734)-32-35-36-38-39-
                    (575735)-32-35-37-38-39-
                    (575736)-32-36-37-38-39-
                    (575737)-33-34-35-36-37-
                    (575738)-33-34-35-36-38-
                    (575739)-33-34-35-36-39-
                    (575740)-33-34-35-37-38-
                    (575741)-33-34-35-37-39-
                    (575742)-33-34-35-38-39-
                    (575743)-33-34-36-37-38-
                    (575744)-33-34-36-37-39-
                    (575745)-33-34-36-38-39-
                    (575746)-33-34-37-38-39-
                    (575747)-33-35-36-37-38-
                    (575748)-33-35-36-37-39-
                    (575749)-33-35-36-38-39-
                    (575750)-33-35-37-38-39-
                    (575751)-33-36-37-38-39-
                    (575752)-34-35-36-37-38-
                    (575753)-34-35-36-37-39-
                    (575754)-34-35-36-38-39-
                    (575755)-34-35-37-38-39-
                    (575756)-34-36-37-38-39-
                    (575757)-35-36-37-38-39-

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                      Posted: May 13, 2009, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

                      First:

                      How many combinations can the program produce and check, Is there a limit?

                      Next:

                      How many combinations max if there is a limit, can the program import into it for checking against filter patterns and reducing them?

                      Thanks!

                      I think that the Pc's memory might put a limitation, but other than that.....?

                      -----------

                      One can learn some about wheeling and about patterns, by looking at combinations such as these.

                      (01)-01-02-03-04-05-
                      (02)-01-02-03-04-06-
                      (03)-01-02-03-04-07-
                      (04)-01-02-03-04-08-
                      (05)-01-02-03-04-09-
                      (06)-01-02-03-04-10-
                      (07)-01-02-03-04-11-
                      (08)-01-02-03-04-12-
                      (09)-01-02-03-04-13-
                      (10)-01-02-03-04-14-
                      (11)-01-02-03-04-15-
                      (12)-01-02-03-04-16-
                      (13)-01-02-03-04-17-
                      (14)-01-02-03-04-18-
                      (15)-01-02-03-04-19-
                      (16)-01-02-03-04-20-
                      (17)-01-02-03-04-21-
                      (18)-01-02-03-04-22-
                      (19)-01-02-03-04-23-
                      (20)-01-02-03-04-24

                      (575734)-32-35-36-38-39-
                      (575735)-32-35-37-38-39-
                      (575736)-32-36-37-38-39-
                      (575737)-33-34-35-36-37-
                      (575738)-33-34-35-36-38-
                      (575739)-33-34-35-36-39-
                      (575740)-33-34-35-37-38-
                      (575741)-33-34-35-37-39-
                      (575742)-33-34-35-38-39-
                      (575743)-33-34-36-37-38-
                      (575744)-33-34-36-37-39-
                      (575745)-33-34-36-38-39-
                      (575746)-33-34-37-38-39-
                      (575747)-33-35-36-37-38-
                      (575748)-33-35-36-37-39-
                      (575749)-33-35-36-38-39-
                      (575750)-33-35-37-38-39-
                      (575751)-33-36-37-38-39-
                      (575752)-34-35-36-37-38-
                      (575753)-34-35-36-37-39-
                      (575754)-34-35-36-38-39-
                      (575755)-34-35-37-38-39-
                      (575756)-34-36-37-38-39-
                      (575757)-35-36-37-38-39-

                      That's a full wheel for a 5/39 game.  What can you learn from that?  Most players, when talking wheeling, are interested in abbreviated wheels that cover the most winning combinations in a pool of numbers for the least cost.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        The fact of the matter is:

                        In many cases: Users don't have the manual, and if they did, they wouldn't read it.

                        Unfortunately: Users can't read anything, and if they could, they don't want to.

                        When they do software usability tests: There are quite a few users who simply do not read words that are put on the screen:  If the software pops up an error box of any sort: Users simply will not read it.

                        I suppose there are lottery players who expect lottery software to be "user friendly" and requires little or no knowledge of how it works to use it.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          I suppose there are lottery players who expect lottery software to be "user friendly" and requires little or no knowledge of how it works to use it.

                          Some people can't use some or all lottery programs.

                          What might appear to be "User Friendly" to some, it might be "Not User Friendly" to some others.

                          There are levels or degrees of "Friendliness", some people need more help than others.

                          A person with more general knowledge-education might be able to understand and use more things.

                          One thing leads or can lead to another, if you don't know how to use a computer then you would not be able to use any computer programs, period.

                          If you have no knowledge of statistics-patterns-filters then you would not be able to properly use a filtered wheeler no matter how "User friendly" it might be.

                          Some "Basic Knowledge" is needed before a person can do some or many things.

                          At one time, I wanted to predict the winning number for the pick 3 lottery game, yet I could not, because I didn't know how to do it, that is how to go about doing it.

                          I had to have some pre-knowledge first, I looked for books about lottery prediction and could not find anything other than books that said, that it could not be done, that is that prediction could not be done.

                          I used search engines and found the lottery post and read what people said here, I also downloaded some demos of pick 3 software and tried them out and I started to study the past draws to see what I could see there, somebody talked about Bob Perkis' site and maybe also about the "Sums and Roots Chart" and one thing led to another and then to another and so on and so forth, well, I learned a possible way of predicting and tried it and kept on trying it and tried to make it better, well, as random goes, I think that I didn't do too bad.

                          That was a fairly short lived thing as I quit predicting years ago and every year forget more and more of how I used to do it, I still know-remember  the basic general way of how to do it, it was a compilation of statistical "Tricks", it is very many of those "Tricks" that I forgot about and not just the tricks, but of when and how to use them, a good part of when and how to use the "Stuff" was intuition, that I gained the more that I tried to predict.

                          All this is way out of topic, but not too many people should mind that, I think.

                          P34 Lotto thought me about filters, I also tried other programs.

                          I don't know if I would had been able to predict or not without my first trying out P34 Lotto and my getting a copy of the Sums and Roots Chart.

                          I didn't use P34 Lotto for making predictions only for learning how to use filter patterns for filtering out pick 3 numbers, I used the Sums and Roots Chart and a felt tip marker for doing the filtering with (Making the predictions with).

                          That is until much later when MikeK and Paurths made their "Wheelers".

                          Maybe I should had put this on my blog instead.

                          My system is-was to filter out the patterns-combinations that appeared to be the less likely to come out (According to my interpretation of the stats of the winning numbers) on the very next draw, a very tricky thing to try to do.

                          Prediction in that way is very prone to failure, but it was the only way that I could find of how to do it.

                          Some of those predictions amazed me, like the time when I got 5 winning numbers out of all possible 6, including the straight pick among them, among the group of straight predicted numbers.

                          At another time, the only time ever that I sent by P.M. a prediction to a small group of people (5 to 7 people), it was also an accurate prediction, I got the winning number.

                          I of course didn't win all of the time, I also made many failed predictions.

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