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Michigan daily games ARE rigged

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Posted: August 15, 2009, 1:13 pm - IP Logged

As long time player with more money then I care to mention invested in Michigan daily games about 3 years ago I started to research and ask questions about how they are being run. Based on months of: a)..looking at the very limited information the state of Michigan provides us.   b)..from talking to many retailers all over the tri-county area.   c)..and viewing 1st hand how the draws are run....it is my conclusion with a a high degree of confidence that the players of the Michigan daily games are being cheated. I would also say with the rest of the Michigan likes Classic Lotto 47...Fantasy 5..Keno...and all other games that they draw winners fron the computers where the winners can stay unamed....I have little faith.    Michigan lottery games have zero legislative oversight...meaning they are run by the insiders at the "Commission" without any government process review from outside  their very sectretive walls.             

I have been reading the Lottery Post for several years now and have to say I'm very surprised at the lack of curiousity from players on what the states do to protect the integrity of the process. Lots of blind faith.

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    I've notice for the past two years when the lines get short for purchases, suddenly all the popular numbers are pulled. Sample 123  1112 1028 718 666 1110 and this goes on until the crowd is drawn back in. I don't believe its a coincidence. On the scratch offs it always someone in a unheard of small town or rural area. I agree something is out of order.

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      I've notice for the past two years when the lines get short for purchases, suddenly all the popular numbers are pulled. Sample 123  1112 1028 718 666 1110 and this goes on until the crowd is drawn back in. I don't believe its a coincidence. On the scratch offs it always someone in a unheard of small town or rural area. I agree something is out of order.

      You are right. 

      The scratch off tickets, and

      The big jackpot lotteries (fantasy 5, lotto 47, etc)

      are always won in the small towns "that you never heard of" or the rural areas.

      Also, go back and review the lottery website for the pick 3/4 games.

      Out of all the thousands, and thousands of people that play the lottery games throughout the entire Michigan area, surely some of them winners should be spread out throughout Michigan.

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        Posted: August 15, 2009, 10:13 pm - IP Logged

        As long time player with more money then I care to mention invested in Michigan daily games about 3 years ago I started to research and ask questions about how they are being run. Based on months of: a)..looking at the very limited information the state of Michigan provides us.   b)..from talking to many retailers all over the tri-county area.   c)..and viewing 1st hand how the draws are run....it is my conclusion with a a high degree of confidence that the players of the Michigan daily games are being cheated. I would also say with the rest of the Michigan likes Classic Lotto 47...Fantasy 5..Keno...and all other games that they draw winners fron the computers where the winners can stay unamed....I have little faith.    Michigan lottery games have zero legislative oversight...meaning they are run by the insiders at the "Commission" without any government process review from outside  their very sectretive walls.             

        I have been reading the Lottery Post for several years now and have to say I'm very surprised at the lack of curiousity from players on what the states do to protect the integrity of the process. Lots of blind faith.

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          Posted: August 16, 2009, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

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            Posted: August 16, 2009, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

            Yes they are cheating michigan players big time.  Take a look at todays drawing midday was 419 and evening was 419  what the hell is going on ?

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbp-qV7Jn_0

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              Posted: August 17, 2009, 12:11 am - IP Logged

              As long time player with more money then I care to mention invested in Michigan daily games about 3 years ago I started to research and ask questions about how they are being run. Based on months of: a)..looking at the very limited information the state of Michigan provides us.   b)..from talking to many retailers all over the tri-county area.   c)..and viewing 1st hand how the draws are run....it is my conclusion with a a high degree of confidence that the players of the Michigan daily games are being cheated. I would also say with the rest of the Michigan likes Classic Lotto 47...Fantasy 5..Keno...and all other games that they draw winners fron the computers where the winners can stay unamed....I have little faith.    Michigan lottery games have zero legislative oversight...meaning they are run by the insiders at the "Commission" without any government process review from outside  their very sectretive walls.             

              I have been reading the Lottery Post for several years now and have to say I'm very surprised at the lack of curiousity from players on what the states do to protect the integrity of the process. Lots of blind faith.

              you are correct. there have been a lot of posters Sandy K is one of the more prominent, who rarely posts any nore BECAUSE of the crookedness of our good ole msl more than anything. there are others as well but all you have to do is look at todays results and that is as you really need to know. I myself have reduced my betting strategy and amount of numbers I play. One of my pet numbers that I no longer play is 513...it last fell in 8-2001...after today how can you tell me that they are not holding back that number as when it does hit it pays out alot to a number of people. I can not play 100+numbers like some people post for a box and then say they played it wheeled ...yeah right..I do that for double but not a ware of those who do it for all numbers...especiall if they are playing or posting 100 + numbers...do like many others and play on line and stay away from mi as they do hold back the numbers ..it is figuring out what they are going to repeat rather than anything else...good luck !

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                Posted: August 17, 2009, 6:56 am - IP Logged

                As long time player with more money then I care to mention invested in Michigan daily games about 3 years ago I started to research and ask questions about how they are being run. Based on months of: a)..looking at the very limited information the state of Michigan provides us.   b)..from talking to many retailers all over the tri-county area.   c)..and viewing 1st hand how the draws are run....it is my conclusion with a a high degree of confidence that the players of the Michigan daily games are being cheated. I would also say with the rest of the Michigan likes Classic Lotto 47...Fantasy 5..Keno...and all other games that they draw winners fron the computers where the winners can stay unamed....I have little faith.    Michigan lottery games have zero legislative oversight...meaning they are run by the insiders at the "Commission" without any government process review from outside  their very sectretive walls.             

                I have been reading the Lottery Post for several years now and have to say I'm very surprised at the lack of curiousity from players on what the states do to protect the integrity of the process. Lots of blind faith.

                I believe many people are aware that the msl is not random, they continued to play with the hopes that one day they would be able to get a return on their invested funds.

                I noticed that every since the casino opened over there in BC the lottery numbers have been very off balanced (example 419-419 repeat yesterday).

                The msl is losing a lot of players to the casino.  But, when you run a staged game, what do they expect.  Even iron wheres out.

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                  Posted: August 17, 2009, 11:24 am - IP Logged

                  As long time player with more money then I care to mention invested in Michigan daily games about 3 years ago I started to research and ask questions about how they are being run. Based on months of: a)..looking at the very limited information the state of Michigan provides us.   b)..from talking to many retailers all over the tri-county area.   c)..and viewing 1st hand how the draws are run....it is my conclusion with a a high degree of confidence that the players of the Michigan daily games are being cheated. I would also say with the rest of the Michigan likes Classic Lotto 47...Fantasy 5..Keno...and all other games that they draw winners fron the computers where the winners can stay unamed....I have little faith.    Michigan lottery games have zero legislative oversight...meaning they are run by the insiders at the "Commission" without any government process review from outside  their very sectretive walls.             

                  I have been reading the Lottery Post for several years now and have to say I'm very surprised at the lack of curiousity from players on what the states do to protect the integrity of the process. Lots of blind faith.

                  I agree 100% that our Mich State Lottery system is not random.I come from a family that has played the lottery for many years,as we have seen on the 16th 419 was drawn in both midday and eve.I have been playing 1211 for a while and it took over three years for that number to fall here again in Michigan it came 1121.

                  The fantasy 5 the Lotto47 the keno games I feel are not random because anytime computers are involved the State can program the outcome anyway they want, notice the Michigan Lottery machines cut off at a certain time for midday and Eve. The suppose drawings are at a certain time 12:59 Miday and 7:29 Eve everyday,now in between those times the computers could be doing a number of things possibly program to do like checking all the numbers played in certain areas cities small towns etc. in our State to pull the least played numbers or a none double or triple and then we see the suppose live draw on TV half n hour later yea right,with any program they can choose to allow what they want to be drawn or limit the States payout for that draw by checking the terminals first.

                  I can go on and on with many examples. My suggestion to our State is when the lottery machines shut down have the draw immediately right then and there live on Tv and the internet don't wait a half n hour why wait? because it is not random, and that is my true opinion but i still play almost everyday I just play less where is 141 has not been drawn here in Michigan for over a year now?

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                    Posted: August 17, 2009, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

                     

                    I agree take a look atr PA and see repeats galore day and night 3 and 4 days apart  1 number hit 6x day already in 2009  the day is computorized draw  playing numbers for a while have never seen  results like this makes you wonder