'Mind reader' will predict UK Lotto numbers on show Wednesday

Sep 7, 2009, 9:30 pm (36 comments)

UK National Lottery

So-called "mind reader" Derren Brown is to perform his most audacious stunt yet — predicting the lottery results on his British TV show.

The television personality plans to forecast the Wednesday night draw as it is screened live on BBC1.

And the bearded illusionist will rattle lotto chiefs by telling viewers how to do it. Sadly, Derren will be filmed at a secret location as he predicts the balls tumbling out of the National Lottery machine — when it's too late for lottery players to buy a ticket.

Derren, 38, is so confident of success he has convinced Channel 4 chiefs to screen the stunt live across all its channels including FilmFour and More4.

They have also given him another show on Friday night where he will give hints on how its done.  A show insider said, "Derren is extremely confident he has worked out how to predict those magic balls.

"Of course the thing with this is not just the excitement of him doing it — but the fact he'll tell people how to do it.

"Magicians famously never give up their secrets and are frowned upon if they do.  And the lotto bosses won't be happy if he really has found the secret to predicting the National Lottery."

The stunt is one of four "events" Derren has lined up.  Some are so secret even senior execs at Channel 4 don't know what they are.

Next week's show How to Control The Nation could see thousands of viewers unable to get up from their seats after watching a special film.  Derren recently said, "A piece of media which will be played to the viewing nation will have the effect of rendering them immobile.  Not all of them, but it will basically stick a lot of people to their seats.  It's safe."

Derren once played a game of Russian Roulette live and also convinced a member of the public to rob a security van.

But the new show could be a trick — just like Séance filmed in 2004 which implied it was being shown live.

Derren revealed at the end of the programme that the séance had been a set up.  Let's hope Derren's remembered to buy a lotto ticket before Wednesday's show at 10:35 pm.

The Sun, Lottery Post Staff

Comments

CowboysFan's avatarCowboysFan

Would you mind telling what numbers are going to come for the next Super Lotto Plus drawing?

duckman's avatarduckman

Assuming he does publicly announce the winning numbers before the live TV drawing, I predict the following:

He will not predict all the numbers correctly

Big Smile

Also, if he does something like putting the numbers in an envelope before the drawing and then revealing them after the drawing, that does not count because that is a common magician's trick/illusion. For it to be real, he must publicly say what the numbers will be before the live drawing takes place.

Also, the story said he will predict them too late for players to buy a ticket for the drawing...if one assumes he could actually predict the winning numbers, it would probably not be worth playing because so many people would play that number set that the payout would be small.

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by duckman on Sep 7, 2009

Assuming he does publicly announce the winning numbers before the live TV drawing, I predict the following:

He will not predict all the numbers correctly

Big Smile

Also, if he does something like putting the numbers in an envelope before the drawing and then revealing them after the drawing, that does not count because that is a common magician's trick/illusion. For it to be real, he must publicly say what the numbers will be before the live drawing takes place.

Also, the story said he will predict them too late for players to buy a ticket for the drawing...if one assumes he could actually predict the winning numbers, it would probably not be worth playing because so many people would play that number set that the payout would be small.

Yes, i agree when there are a lot of people playing these same numbers the payout will be  very small.  I sure would like to see him Predict those numbers.

YoungNRich

Thats when ya gotta start thinking with you head marc(no offense, hope none was taken). I would take those number and Play the first 5 about 50 dollars worth and use the power play option (if available) and while everyone is arguing over thier small jackpot earnings I'll be laughing all the way to the bank!!! But on another note; MY BDAY is and 2 days so wish me LUCK at the Powerball! 3 9's gotta be good for something on my 22nd Day of Birth:)!

ThatScaryChick's avatarThatScaryChick

Hmmm. I guess we'll see if he can do what he claims on Wednesday. Unless, the whole think is staged and just a trick.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Obviously this guy Derren Brown is going to perform some type of illusion or stunt for entertainment because if he was for real he would simply buy a winning ticket and display it after the drawing.

He's probably going to display some numbers after the drawings that he with some kind of an illusion or trick will have convinced his audience that he wrote down before the drawing.  If he does tell his audience how he did it, he will only be exposing the illusion not how to predict the next winning numbers.

markp1950

I can predict the numbers for Tonight's MM drawing with high accuracy, maybe 100%

I predict that they won't be the numbers on my ticket!

Works almost every time!

MarkP

marcie's avatarmarcie

I want to see right before my Eyes, while he is calling those numbers. What Channnel can I watch it on I live in U.S. in Ohio? I need the time and the Channel.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

If Derren Brown is a "mind reader", who's mind is he reading to get the numbers?  Maybe he should expose that person. Wink

joshuakim

obv. a scam.

sunjune6's avatarsunjune6

Not likely to happen. It can't be done. No way hosea!

DC81's avatarDC81

Yeah, this is an old trick, that clown Cris Angel did it awhile back too. Of course he won't say what the numbers will be until after they're drawn, because he doesn't know them yet.LOL

Todd's avatarTodd

If it is sealed in an envelope, then of course he will not open the envelope sealed before the drawing.  He will open an envelope that was secretly prepared after the drawing.

The only legitimate way he could prove that he predicted the draw results would be to purchase a ticket before the drawing, and claim the jackpot afterwards.  Any other method will be a simple trick -- a mockery of real prediction theory.

Todd's avatarTodd

Forgot to mention, the other way he could prove a legitimate prediction would be to post his prediction on the Lottery Post Predictions Board.  That is something that can't be scammed, and forces all predictions to be posted before the drawing.

skypekaitas6

I am member ber here with skype  kaitas6 I am based in Copenhagen Denmark and my comments and actions are as follows I have sent an email to the Nationa lottery UK office with the accurate 7 numbers for the wednesday 9th september 2009 before Derren Brown does.. he could be right if he know how to guress the numbers like me... any way for all curious guys my details as below:

i ahve forwarded the accurate winning numbers all seven of them for the uk nationa lottery draw of 9th sep 2009 as numbers 07-11-16-23-35-37-46

to my best ability i marked these numbers like a piece of cake in just 10 miunutes where normally i take one week to guress the numbers at 16 hours of work per day but in 10 minutes due to this topic i mention these are 100% correct numbers and one who challenges me is a fool so these numbers are correct.. i dont need Derren Brown

 

There is no one in this world who know how to play and predict numbers for any lottery as i do....

tiggs95's avatartiggs95

skypekaitas6...Steve you must be rich by now with all the lotto tickets with winning numbers on them you have cashed..Way to go baby......

marcie's avatarmarcie

Wow, I am going to play these number in the mega Million. Thanks,  7,11,16,23,35,37,46 I have to eliminate one, so I think it will be the last number which always falls in the Bonus ball.  Let's see how it goes! for Tonight.I am on my way to the Store right now.Wink

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Quote: Originally posted by marcie on Sep 8, 2009

Wow, I am going to play these number in the mega Million. Thanks,  7,11,16,23,35,37,46 I have to eliminate one, so I think it will be the last number which always falls in the Bonus ball.  Let's see how it goes! for Tonight.I am on my way to the Store right now.Wink

Marcie, you can't play these #s for Mega Millions because they are 7 numbers NOT the limited 6 numbers.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Sep 8, 2009

If Derren Brown is a "mind reader", who's mind is he reading to get the numbers?  Maybe he should expose that person. Wink

I'ved heard people say those ping pong balls have minds of their own; maybe that's the minds he will attempt to read.

Hiding Behind Computer

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Sep 9, 2009

Marcie, you can't play these #s for Mega Millions because they are 7 numbers NOT the limited 6 numbers.

I said i would eliminate one. the 46, anyway none of them came anway.

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Sep 9, 2009

I'ved heard people say those ping pong balls have minds of their own; maybe that's the minds he will attempt to read.

Hiding Behind Computer

I think they might be onto something Stack47

marcie's avatarmarcie

I am going to watch it tonight!  as soon as I find out the Channel!

skypekaitas6
hi
 
i amhe uk national lotto wed the 9th sep 2+0+9
for tsteve robertson from copenhagen denmark  before derren brown prdicts the uk nation numbers i will do all the 7 numbers including the bonus ball the numbers are 7-11-16-30-32-37-46
marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by skypekaitas6 on Sep 9, 2009

hi
 
i amhe uk national lotto wed the 9th sep 2+0+9
for tsteve robertson from copenhagen denmark  before derren brown prdicts the uk nation numbers i will do all the 7 numbers including the bonus ball the numbers are 7-11-16-30-32-37-46

Where did you get the 2+0+9  from?

numbers369's avatarnumbers369

Quote: Originally posted by marcie on Sep 9, 2009

Where did you get the 2+0+9  from?

my question 2, plus when these numbers don't come how do you feel for wasting people's money and time 

MY predictions POwerball-7-11-16-23-33-37 good luck LOL

numbers369's avatarnumbers369

why did the numbers change from23 to 32

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by numbers369 on Sep 9, 2009

why did the numbers change from23 to 32

I wondered the same thing some of those numbers that he posted yesterday, are diffferent from the ones he posted today?  yesterday the numbers were 07, 11, 16, 23, 35, 37, 46 I played them all in the Mega Million. I eliminated the 46 because there are only 6 numbers for M.M.

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

I wonder why this guy is not the richest person in the world ... with this kind of ability !

Crazy

jimjwright's avatarjimjwright

The actual numbers were 02-11-23-28-35-39  Bonus Ball 15.

The actual stunt/illusion/mind read I thought was lame but that is just me.

Skypes prediction 07-11-16-23-35-37-46 is not bad actually with 3 right.  I'm more impressed with that.

Jimmy

skypekaitas6

Quote: Originally posted by skypekaitas6 on Sep 8, 2009

I am member ber here with skype  kaitas6 I am based in Copenhagen Denmark and my comments and actions are as follows I have sent an email to the Nationa lottery UK office with the accurate 7 numbers for the wednesday 9th september 2009 before Derren Brown does.. he could be right if he know how to guress the numbers like me... any way for all curious guys my details as below:

i ahve forwarded the accurate winning numbers all seven of them for the uk nationa lottery draw of 9th sep 2009 as numbers 07-11-16-23-35-37-46

to my best ability i marked these numbers like a piece of cake in just 10 miunutes where normally i take one week to guress the numbers at 16 hours of work per day but in 10 minutes due to this topic i mention these are 100% correct numbers and one who challenges me is a fool so these numbers are correct.. i dont need Derren Brown

 

There is no one in this world who know how to play and predict numbers for any lottery as i do....

my numbers predicted with just one block are 7-11-16-23-35-37-46 if these 7 numbers were played in a combo of 7 numbers you win 3 numbers correct 4 times.

BESIDES IT APPEARS ONLY 3 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BUT PLEASE TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND YOU SEE ALL MY 7 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT..

 

WHY ALL MY 7 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BECASUE WHEN YOU MARK NUMBERS FROM 1-6 AND NEXT ROW NUMBERS 7-12 AND SO ON, YOU WILL NOTICE MY NUMBER 2 IS BESIDES NO.7 IN A DIAGONAL AND NUMBERS 46 WITH 39, 39 OPPOSITE TO 37 AND 28 OPPOSITE TO 30 SINCE I PREDICTED THE NUMBERS I AM ALSO AWARE OF OTHER PETTY THINGS LIKE THE MOVEMENT AND WITH A FEW EXTRA BLOCKS I AM SURELY GETTING A BLOCK OF ALL 6 NUMBERS CORRECT AND THIS IS PROVEN AND SEEN WHEN YOU MARK MY NUMBERS AND WINNING NUMBERS ON A SHEET OF PAPER WITH NUMBERS 1-6 IN A ROW AND SO ON.... I HAVE ACHEIVED MY FEAT TO SHOW TH WORLD LOTTERY IS NOT A GAME OF LUCK...

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Sep 9, 2009

The actual numbers were 02-11-23-28-35-39  Bonus Ball 15.

The actual stunt/illusion/mind read I thought was lame but that is just me.

Skypes prediction 07-11-16-23-35-37-46 is not bad actually with 3 right.  I'm more impressed with that.

Jimmy

3 out of 7 is very good!    I think I will be ok! My secret though! So if anyone played his numbers they got 160.00 the prediction was very good. If I could of played U.K Lottery I would of!WinkSmile  And multiply it 4X $640.00

tiggs95's avatartiggs95

Skype or Steve..No matter how you spin it you DID NOT pick all the numbers..All I see is you got 3 numbers..Better LUCK next time..You have to have luck to hit the lottery..No one can predict the numbers..

marcie's avatarmarcie

Quote: Originally posted by skypekaitas6 on Sep 9, 2009

my numbers predicted with just one block are 7-11-16-23-35-37-46 if these 7 numbers were played in a combo of 7 numbers you win 3 numbers correct 4 times.

BESIDES IT APPEARS ONLY 3 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BUT PLEASE TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND YOU SEE ALL MY 7 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT..

 

WHY ALL MY 7 NUMBERS ARE CORRECT BECASUE WHEN YOU MARK NUMBERS FROM 1-6 AND NEXT ROW NUMBERS 7-12 AND SO ON, YOU WILL NOTICE MY NUMBER 2 IS BESIDES NO.7 IN A DIAGONAL AND NUMBERS 46 WITH 39, 39 OPPOSITE TO 37 AND 28 OPPOSITE TO 30 SINCE I PREDICTED THE NUMBERS I AM ALSO AWARE OF OTHER PETTY THINGS LIKE THE MOVEMENT AND WITH A FEW EXTRA BLOCKS I AM SURELY GETTING A BLOCK OF ALL 6 NUMBERS CORRECT AND THIS IS PROVEN AND SEEN WHEN YOU MARK MY NUMBERS AND WINNING NUMBERS ON A SHEET OF PAPER WITH NUMBERS 1-6 IN A ROW AND SO ON.... I HAVE ACHEIVED MY FEAT TO SHOW TH WORLD LOTTERY IS NOT A GAME OF LUCK...

Well, I would have to say it is both, what ever works for the person. Some people do have skills to pick the right number. and some people have Luck! My Opinion.   I am going to hit it Big one day!  And everyones going to know it!  Thanks for Sharing.Big Smile

buttercake's avatarbuttercake

DB predicted the numbers and he was surely correct, but he wasn't allowed to show the viewers his predicted numbers not until the actual live lottery draw was drawn, he said on friday he is going to show how he did it, so it is going to be very interesting to find that out

tiggs95's avatartiggs95

NOBODY can predict ping pong ball numbers..NOBODY..It's all a trick and he's good at it to make people believe he is doing it..

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

Quote: Originally posted by buttercake on Sep 10, 2009

DB predicted the numbers and he was surely correct, but he wasn't allowed to show the viewers his predicted numbers not until the actual live lottery draw was drawn, he said on friday he is going to show how he did it, so it is going to be very interesting to find that out

What he said was that the UK lottery has the right to be the first to announce the winning numbers. That's a far cry from making a prediction about what numbers will be drawn. As others have pointed out, he could easily back up his claim by producing a winning ticket. IMHO, not being able to do that is ironclad proof that he didn't make an accurate prediction. Doing what he did, in astudio without a live audience is no more of an illusion, let alone an actual magic trick, than the special effects in any mainstream movie.

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