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Posted: October 3, 2009, 3:52 pm - IP Logged

I live in Michigan and must say this state suck in every meaning thanks to Michigan government! I seriously think they control results of lottery .It's easy to do so now with computerized system.

Anybody can suggest where should I go to get real information about how they draw winning numbers?Who can I question?

thanks in advance!

Andy

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    Posted: October 3, 2009, 4:21 pm - IP Logged

    Good luck!!  My experience has been that the lottory will gladly share some information but as to the inner workings of their operation, they are tighter than the CIA. 

    There was a 3 million dollar winner in Nashville a few weeks ago.  I called to find out  which store, sold the winning ticket.  They told me until the winner steps forward, they could not give out this information.   I guess they will not be paying the store their fair share if the winner never comes forth.

    I can not for the life of me think of one good reason to withhold the name of the store.

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      Posted: October 3, 2009, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

      hi andy.  can't trust anyone these days. 

      even with balls then can be fixed.   i love the theory of filling balls up with a gas making them float over the others. 

      just don't play more than you can afford.

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        Posted: October 3, 2009, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

        You might as well talk to a wall as talk to anyone from government or a government agency. They all act like they're a member of the ruling class once they get in there.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          Posted: October 3, 2009, 10:14 pm - IP Logged

          Good luck!!  My experience has been that the lottory will gladly share some information but as to the inner workings of their operation, they are tighter than the CIA. 

          There was a 3 million dollar winner in Nashville a few weeks ago.  I called to find out  which store, sold the winning ticket.  They told me until the winner steps forward, they could not give out this information.   I guess they will not be paying the store their fair share if the winner never comes forth.

          I can not for the life of me think of one good reason to withhold the name of the store.

          there ain't a good reason.  it's good to withhold name of winner, to protect winner.   There should be a lotto winner's protection program,   protects from begs,  mails, calls, knocking on doors, kidnapping, blackmail,   ransom, murder

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            Posted: October 4, 2009, 1:38 am - IP Logged

            Of course there's a good reason. Until the lottery anounces the store, the only people who should know are the lottery and the person who bought the winning ticket. If the rightful owner loses the ticket, being able to tell when and where it was bought could be very important in proving ownership.

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              Posted: October 4, 2009, 3:42 am - IP Logged

              I live in Michigan and must say this state suck in every meaning thanks to Michigan government! I seriously think they control results of lottery .It's easy to do so now with computerized system.

              Anybody can suggest where should I go to get real information about how they draw winning numbers?Who can I question?

              thanks in advance!

              Andy

              Your search starts here . . .

              http://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp

               

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                Posted: October 4, 2009, 6:56 am - IP Logged

                Your search starts here . . .

                http://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp

                 

                BobP

                w/o ball drawings,  the computers can select the least payout to  the citizens, so state keeps more.   avoid numbers that played most often from player and  RNG other #.    Hackers will hack them.  In China's  lotto game, a hacker hacked the RNG computer to let computer pick his number and won $33 million

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                  Posted: October 4, 2009, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

                  Thanks! Now I'm sure Michigan is cheating! Lotto47, Fantasy5 and Keno are the easiest ones to win a fair amount of money. Now I see those three are computerized drawings... :(

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                    Posted: October 4, 2009, 5:55 pm - IP Logged

                    Wherever there are large or even small amounts of cash there are people trying to get it surreptitiously. That is a fact of life. To deny or ignore that fact is just foolish. Whether these forces are actively in process in any given state's lottery is a matter of opinion. But the introduction of computers in place of the ball machines under the claim of saving 80 K in an industry generating multiple millions seems suspicious. Especially in light of falling player participation due to lack of confidence after the switch. The introduction of computers would seem apropos in the facilitation of any such malfeasance. The lottery people's reluctance to address this loss of confidence or even acknowledge it only serves to increase it.


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

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                      Posted: October 4, 2009, 6:27 pm - IP Logged

                      w/o ball drawings,  the computers can select the least payout to  the citizens, so state keeps more.   avoid numbers that played most often from player and  RNG other #.    Hackers will hack them.  In China's  lotto game, a hacker hacked the RNG computer to let computer pick his number and won $33 million

                      In China's  lotto game, a hacker hacked the RNG computer to let computer pick his number and won $33 million

                      What was your source for that story?

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: October 4, 2009, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                        In China's  lotto game, a hacker hacked the RNG computer to let computer pick his number and won $33 million

                        What was your source for that story?

                        Do a google seach with these words:

                         

                        "china lotto hacked"

                         

                        It is the first result.

                         

                        It was for 4.8 million dollars, 33 million yen

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                          Do a google seach with these words:

                           

                          "china lotto hacked"

                           

                          It is the first result.

                           

                          It was for 4.8 million dollars, 33 million yen

                          That was interesting and shows that there's always somebody working to cheat the system.

                          There was also another story there about a lottery retailer in China who found out he could punch in the winning numbers up to 5 minutes after they were drawn. He was having friends and neighbors cash in the tickets for some time. He got caught after making more than 3 million and got life in prison.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                            Posted: October 5, 2009, 5:59 am - IP Logged

                            Yeah google it, and it's first link, Shanghai Daily reported the 33 million yuan (chinese dollar) almost stolen.   Probably happened who knows how many times in the past.      I knew that one,  since I'm fluent in Chinese,  and  read it in  a Chinese lotto board. 

                             From what I read,  they have national lottery orgs.  They have a couple of them,  and even in a ball drawing game,  one can allegedly  control the balls electromagnetically, due to embedded device(s) on balls or the  drum's  mechanism.  Because many times, the jackpot winner seems to be neatly spread out nonrandomly, in   a pattern, travelling from province to province,  each province gets its win.

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                              Posted: October 5, 2009, 8:37 am - IP Logged

                              JWBlue,

                              Thanks for the information.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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