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recoveryroad

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:36 am

I was skeptical about the usefulness of tracking how hot/cold the numbers are in lottery games, a common source of data a lot of players use, since I was still under the impression that these games are too random for any information to help you predict winning numbers. I attributed the frequency that numbers hit and miss mostly to luck. This was until I noticed what happened this past week in the pick 5/36 game we have down here (which runs every night).

Up until Novermber 12th (two days ago)...

10 was an overdue number that hadn't come up in the last 28 consecutive draws.

13 became pretty cold as it had not been a winner in the past 10 draws, and before that, didn't win the past 12 draws.

20 was a huge loser as well, as it had been on a losing streak during the last 14 drawings, and then 11 before that, and if you go back a further before that one, 22 draws. Ouch.

Take a look at the last 3 draws...

11/12/09 7-10-14-20-26

11/13/09 8-9-13-16-35

11/14/09 10-13-20-22-29

So how do you interpret something like this? Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together?

Does this mean I should start playing 5 now? That has been cold for the past 30 drawings. In fact, over the past 150 drawings, 5 has only come up 12 times...easily distinguishing it as the worst number you could have played in the past 5 months...followed by 10, which hit 15 times during the same period.

I'm still finding it difficult to understand what indicators you would look at to start prompting you to suddenly play losers like these more frequently, instead of hot numbers. But now that these losers did eventually end up becoming winners again, it is somewhat undeniable, at least in my eyes, that there is some worth in checking hot/cold number frequencies when choosing numbers.
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Nov 15, 2009, 1:47 pm

Quote: Originally posted by recoveryroad on Nov 15, 2009
I was skeptical about the usefulness of tracking how hot/cold the numbers are in lottery games, a common source of data a lot of players use, since I was still under the impression that these games are too random for any information to help you predict winning numbers. I attributed the frequency that numbers hit and miss mostly to luck. This was until I noticed what happened this past week in the pick 5/36 game we have down here (which runs every night).

Up until Novermber 12th (two days ago)...

10 was an overdue number that hadn't come up in the last 28 consecutive draws.

13 became pretty cold as it had not been a winner in the past 10 draws, and before that, didn't win the past 12 draws.

20 was a huge loser as well, as it had been on a losing streak during the last 14 drawings, and then 11 before that, and if you go back a further before that one, 22 draws. Ouch.

Take a look at the last 3 draws...

11/12/09 7-10-14-20-26

11/13/09 8-9-13-16-35

11/14/09 10-13-20-22-29

So how do you interpret something like this? Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together?

Does this mean I should start playing 5 now? That has been cold for the past 30 drawings. In fact, over the past 150 drawings, 5 has only come up 12 times...easily distinguishing it as the worst number you could have played in the past 5 months...followed by 10, which hit 15 times during the same period.

I'm still finding it difficult to understand what indicators you would look at to start prompting you to suddenly play losers like these more frequently, instead of hot numbers. But now that these losers did eventually end up becoming winners again, it is somewhat undeniable, at least in my eyes, that there is some worth in checking hot/cold number frequencies when choosing numbers.

According to Gail Howard's Logic, if the cold numbers start to Hit, more than once, then you start playing the previously Cold numbers, because they have broken their loosing streak, and could become Warm or even Hot numbers.
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Nov 15, 2009, 2:53 pm

looks like u should play two hitting numbers (#'s from last three draws)

one absolute cold #

and a couple not from the previous lists

all of us have our methods, it's just trying to pick the right ones

which are the hard part. (btw, everytime i notice a pattern like that, it completely changes.)
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Nov 17, 2009, 10:46 am

So how do you interpret something like this? Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together?

May I make a suggestion, one that I have not seen discussed much on this forum. Why not track the number of times "cold" numbers hit versus the times they do not hit? You can also do this for "hot" numbers (however you may define "hot" or "cold").

After tracking for several months, you might see a pattern emerge. Then again you may not. I really don't know. If nothing else, you might notice how the patterns cycle.
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Nov 18, 2009, 8:03 am

So how do you interpret something like this? I call them "reset" drawings; like some people do triples.

Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. You "should" play whatever is goimg to come out. The reason it's so noticeable is because it's so different from what usually happens.

And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together? Depends on how many total "losers" are around at any given moment.

Does this mean I should start playing 5 now? Can you handle the drawdown? Numbers can stay out (due) longer than you can stay in (playing).

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:20 pm

Recoveryroad;

I sent you a private message. Let me know if you received it.

Thanks.

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Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Nov 17, 2009
So how do you interpret something like this? Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together?

May I make a suggestion, one that I have not seen discussed much on this forum. Why not track the number of times "cold" numbers hit versus the times they do not hit? You can also do this for "hot" numbers (however you may define "hot" or "cold").

After tracking for several months, you might see a pattern emerge. Then again you may not. I really don't know. If nothing else, you might notice how the patterns cycle.

That is what I do.

I have a query of the number of days since each number hit and that history.

For example, today in GA FF, 39 is 30 days since. It has gone 30 days in August and Sept, but in

the past 2 years no longer. So it is due to play. 6 has also gone 30 days, but since the pot is

at the minimum I play one line. I don't think both will hit at the same day, that is rare.

But now that I wrote that, it will.
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Dec 17, 2009, 7:58 am

Quote: Originally posted by bomatt on Dec 16, 2009
That is what I do.

I have a query of the number of days since each number hit and that history.

For example, today in GA FF, 39 is 30 days since. It has gone 30 days in August and Sept, but in

the past 2 years no longer. So it is due to play. 6 has also gone 30 days, but since the pot is

at the minimum I play one line. I don't think both will hit at the same day, that is rare.

But now that I wrote that, it will.

I played 39 last night and it came up.

It was the only thing that came up, but I was close on the others.
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Dec 21, 2009, 7:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by recoveryroad on Nov 15, 2009
I was skeptical about the usefulness of tracking how hot/cold the numbers are in lottery games, a common source of data a lot of players use, since I was still under the impression that these games are too random for any information to help you predict winning numbers. I attributed the frequency that numbers hit and miss mostly to luck. This was until I noticed what happened this past week in the pick 5/36 game we have down here (which runs every night).

Up until Novermber 12th (two days ago)...

10 was an overdue number that hadn't come up in the last 28 consecutive draws.

13 became pretty cold as it had not been a winner in the past 10 draws, and before that, didn't win the past 12 draws.

20 was a huge loser as well, as it had been on a losing streak during the last 14 drawings, and then 11 before that, and if you go back a further before that one, 22 draws. Ouch.

Take a look at the last 3 draws...

11/12/09 7-10-14-20-26

11/13/09 8-9-13-16-35

11/14/09 10-13-20-22-29

So how do you interpret something like this? Does this mean you "should" have been playing those cold/overdue numbers more frequently? But look how long it took to pay off. I mean...10, for example, could have remained a loser for another week. And what were the chances that 3 losers would all come up together?

Does this mean I should start playing 5 now? That has been cold for the past 30 drawings. In fact, over the past 150 drawings, 5 has only come up 12 times...easily distinguishing it as the worst number you could have played in the past 5 months...followed by 10, which hit 15 times during the same period.

I'm still finding it difficult to understand what indicators you would look at to start prompting you to suddenly play losers like these more frequently, instead of hot numbers. But now that these losers did eventually end up becoming winners again, it is somewhat undeniable, at least in my eyes, that there is some worth in checking hot/cold number frequencies when choosing numbers.

If I was going to play cold numbers I may have played the 13 or 20 but not the 10. The interesting thing about tracking numbers is you begin to notice things like sometimes a number only hits about every 15 games or that some numbers overall are more consistent than others. I think that people who only play a "special set" of numbers should track all the numbers for a few months and then they would see why playing the same set of numbers isn't such a good idea.

I play Little Lotto 5/39 and if I think cold numbers are going to hit I like to choose numbers that have been out less than 20 games. Numbers that have been out more than 30 games I won't touch until they hit.

As far as indicators I like to look at the last 5-10 games, especially the last 5 games. If all the numbers especially in the last few games have ALL been out less than 10 games than I may play 2 or 3 cold numbers. If I see quite a few cold numbers have hit than I may only play numbers that have been out less than 10 games. The longer you track numbers I think the more comfortable you will be trying different things. The lottery is flexible...your style of play should be too.
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Dec 23, 2009, 11:55 pm

I don't see what's so unbelivable about overdue numbers hitting, even if there were three of them.

Overdue is overdue.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Dec 26, 2009, 1:49 am

Well I started this thread back in November, when I still had doubts about using systems and historical analysis. After 3 months of playing every other day or so, I don't find anything unbelievable anymore when it comes to this, regardless of the numbers being overdue or hot. I just remember feeling "enlightened" to see actual proof that cold numbers really did eventually hit again, and became hot in the process, and that the lottery wasn't purely as random as I had once believed.
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Dec 26, 2009, 1:53 am

Many things are possible; some are more possible than others.

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:24 am

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on Dec 26, 2009
Many things are possible; some are more possible than others.

Preach!

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:59 pm

GA F5 has #6 at 40 days and #11 at 38 days.

In the game's history, numbers have only gone longer than 38 days 10 times.

So they have to hit soon.