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# Newbie ?.. Numeric Reduction

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 Posted: January 22, 2010, 5:04 pm - IP Logged

Hello everyone... I'm new to this Lotto forum... And I'm finding it really interesting.

I have a question but first let me throw out there my thoughts...

I have been looking for a system that incorporates numerology, Fibonacci or numeric reduction... but I haven't found one. I have a feeling that these methods of numbers might have some contribution to finding winning patterns. Being that they show relationship to each other. For example I found this interesting

Numeric reduction

Numeric reduction is a technique used in analysis of numbers in which all the digits of a number are added together until only one digit remains. As an example, the numeric reduction of 256 is 4 because 2+5+6=13 and 1+3=4.

Also the Number 9 is a very interesting number... for example, Applying numeric reduction to the Fibonacci series produces an infinite series of 24 repeating digits. If you take the first 12 and add then to the second 12 digits and apply the numeric reduction to the result, you find that they all have a value of 9.

First 12 number: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 4, 3, 7, 1, 8, 9

Second 12 numbers: 8, 8, 7, 6, 4, 1, 5, 6, 2, 8, 1, 9

Add 1st. & 2nd rows: 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9

What's not quite so obvious is why this pattern should repeat every 24 numbers or why the first and last half of the series should all add to 9. Probably something to do with Base 12 numerology.

The indestructible Number 9

Add all the numbers in the numerical system and what you get: 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9 = 45, 4+5= 9! The indestructible 9, which will be itself no matter how many times you multiply it or add it to its own multiplication: 1x9=9, 2x9=18=9, 3x9=27, and so on. While it retains its value this way, no. 9 is also the only number which does not destroy the identity of any number added to it, 1+9=10=1, 1+0=1, 2+9=11=2, 3+9=12=3, and so on.

Researchers have observed that changes that influence the entire world occur once in every 180 years, 1+8+0=9. The astrological chart has 360 degrees, 3+6+0=9. 45 degrees, 180 degrees and Pi 3.141 as well reduces to 9.

If you add 9 to any root number look what happens..

03 + 9 = 12 = 3

12 + 9 = 21 = 3

21 + 9 = 30 = 3

30 + 9 = 39 = 3

39 + 9 = 48 = 3

If you look at the results they all can be reduce to 03, also creating a family of 03's! It appear that the numbers in each family do not repeat themselves in other families from 1 thru 9 (see below).

1, 10, 19, 28, 37..

2, 11, 20, 29, 38..

3, 12, 21, 30, 39..

4, 13, 22, 31..

5, 14, 23, 32..

6, 15, 24, 33..

7, 16, 25, 34..

8, 17, 26, 35..

9, 18, 27, 36..

I have been playing with these ideas for a month or so, but I really don't have the Lottery know-how as many here do. I've actually have played with a couple of spreadsheet I've put together in Open Office software (which is free).

Here's my question...

In the California Fantasy5, can I consider the numbers 3, 12, 21, 30, 39 as a collective Group #3. I also thought I should be able to reduce the complete 39 numbers (Wheel) into nine collective groups. Having only 9 collective groups of numbers to analyze for patterns.. Or am I reaching.. lol

thanx

PS

Sorry for the long post

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 Posted: January 22, 2010, 6:27 pm - IP Logged

These are back testing results of a system I've been playing with. Applying Numeric Reduction (NR) as a filter. The draw back is the amount of tickets it generates.. Up t0 42, depending on if its a single, double or double x2 numbers generated. This is California Daily 4 Drawing.. Any input is appreciated

 Draw Date Connector # NR Draw Date Draw. # S/B Gen. # Draw Days System 01/18/10 4 3 2 3 2 01/21/10 7887 B 8787 3 +2 01/17/10 6 2 3 2 4 01/09/10 3 6 0 1 1 No Data 01/08/10 6 0 9 7 4 01/09/10 3601 B 0631 1 +2 01/08/10 6 0 9 7 4 01/16/10 4173 B 7431 8 -3 01/06/10 0 6 9 4 1 01/07/10 2048 B 4028 1 -1 01/04/10 3 1 2 5 2 No Data 01/02/10 3 9 2 8 4 01/02/10 3928 B2 8932/8239 10 -3 12/23/09 4 8 9 8 1 12/29/09 2184 B2 8241/8142 1 DD 12/23/09 4 8 9 8 1 12/23/09 3283 B2 8332/8233 1 +1 12/22/09 7 3 5 7 4 12/27/09 6119 B 1691 5 -1 12/17/09 6 9 7 9 4 No Data 12/16/09 9 5 3 9 4 No Data 12/15/09 7 4 9 9 2 12/24/09 3283 B 2833 9 +1 12/15/09 7 4 9 9 2 12/19/09 1353 B 1533 4 -3 12/14/09 7 1 9 5 4 12/16/09 9539 S 9539 2 -2 12/14/09 7 1 9 5 4 12/19/09 1353 B 1533 5 +4 12/13/09 5 5 2 8 2 12/16/09 9539 B 9953 3 DD 12/12/09 5 9 8 9 4 No Data 12/11/09 5 0 4 1 1 12/12/09 5989 B 9985 1 -1 12/11/09 5 0 4 1 1 12/16/09 9539 B 9395 5 DD 12/10/09 4 2 4 9 1 12/18/09 0386 B2 8603/0863 8 +2 12/09/09 4 5 2 0 2 12/18/09 0386 B 8065 9 DD 12/04/09 7 5 1 0 4 12/10/09 4249 B 2944 7 DD 12/04/09 7 5 1 0 4 12/11/09 5041 B 1054 7 +1 12/04/09 7 5 1 0 4 12/06/09 1654 S 1654 2 -3
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 Posted: January 23, 2010, 9:22 am - IP Logged

<Moved to Mathematics forum>

Please post in the appropriate forum ... thank you.

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 Posted: January 23, 2010, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

Hi Sungazer and welcome to the forum!

Thanks for all the info about the indestructible number 9 LOL I was born 9/9!

A system can be whatever you make it.......since you haven't found what your looking for simply make your own! Take your ideas and backtest to see how they do. I believe there's more than one way (system)  to win the lottery. Also you will find that the more you analyze the numbers and the more ideas you read about in this forum......the more ideas you will want to try out.

I'm not sure how grouping the numbers into 9 collective groups would help you analyze for patterns but I'm sure someone will jump in to tell you whether or not this would work.

I wish you the best....CA Fantasy 5 was my game : )

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 Posted: January 25, 2010, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

Hi,

Sungazer, test your system on the last 100 games or so and find out how many times you would have hit 2 out 5, 3 out of 5, 4 out of 5, and 5 out of 5. Only then will you know if the system is worth pursuing.

Best of luck. *S*

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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