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Shared $18 Million Jackpot, Slim Pickings? - What's Your Opinion: Fate, Random, ...?

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TinFoilHat85705's avatar - DiscoBallGlowing
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Posted: April 1, 2010, 2:43 pm - IP Logged

I'm just curious what the rest of you think about this situation...

On December 27, 2000 there were two different winners of the PowerBall, one in Delaware (anonymous family group of 9) and one in Louisiana (individual chose personal #'s not QP).

The numbers that won it were: 15, 22, 24, 32, 39 with PB of 18.

About seven years prior, on 4/3/1993... those exact same numbers were drawn (down to the PB #). So far, this is the only time all 5 matched with a winner. One other had no winner.

80 million to 1 odds, do you think it was just luck, or that someone (or something that's not human and/or in this reality) had some kind of influence on it? Or do you believe randomness (or atleast the versions we are exposed to) speaks for itself?

PB had just put into rotation a new (or atleast new numbered) set of white balls for that 12/27/2000 draw! I'm just curious what others think, so please Reply!

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    Posted: April 1, 2010, 4:33 pm - IP Logged

    The same numbers drawn in itself is pretty amazing.

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      Posted: April 1, 2010, 6:40 pm - IP Logged

      01/09/08 - 02 13 20 21 23  +24
      02/08/03 - 02 13 20 21 23  +35

      12/27/00 - 15 22 24 32 39  +18
      04/03/93 - 15 22 24 32 39  +18

      It almost happened again in '08.  If you check most lotteries, it's not unusual for a combination of 5 or 6 to repeat when 0.1% of the possible combinations have been drawn.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: April 1, 2010, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

        Hey RJOh, what do you make of the 32 test draws that have matched all 5 WB's? Or rather, what do you make of the percentage that only 2 of the total 34 were draws? Do you think the PB chose to not make those other tests be draws or do you think that in all randomness, it was just truly random in the universe that only 2 of the 34 were draws?

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          Posted: April 1, 2010, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

          Up to now I haven't follow the test drawings because I haven't played PB in a year of two.  Now that it's coming to Ohio I might check them out.  I have no reason to not think all the drawings are random including the test drawings, if I didn't I wouldn't play.

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            Posted: April 2, 2010, 1:28 am - IP Logged

            I would say it's just one of those random occurrences.

            Now if it was won in the same city or by the same people or there were more similarities to the story then I would say there's something bigger going on.

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              Posted: April 2, 2010, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

              Hey RJOh, what do you make of the 32 test draws that have matched all 5 WB's? Or rather, what do you make of the percentage that only 2 of the total 34 were draws? Do you think the PB chose to not make those other tests be draws or do you think that in all randomness, it was just truly random in the universe that only 2 of the 34 were draws?

              I'd like to know if there is a prescribed number of test draws assigned before they do them or if someone decides as they go along which is or is going to be the official drawing.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                Posted: April 5, 2010, 3:53 pm - IP Logged

                That depends on how deep you're questioning the system of the game. Most of the public knows there's winning/draw numbers. What they may not know is that there are test draws. What the test draw files available from PB's web site seem to indicate is that for every single draw, 4 pre-tests happen, then the "public" draw, followed by a post-test. That file does not indicate whether or not there's always 4 tests, 1 real draw, and then another test or if the fifth draw is always the public draw. Only assumptions can be speculated. I do have data from them that goes back as far as 1992 in the same format: 4 tests, 1 draw, 1 more test. Somehow, they knew back then what they wanted to do, or atleast what they wanted to give out if ever asked for. And when you look at chi-testing, it makes since when you throw in the 4 separate sets of the same numbered balls for analyzation. But... who knows if even more tests/draws occur that don't get recorded for public dissection.