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      My name is Jerry Carter.  I am the Director of Security with the North Carolina Education Lottery.  I am in receipt of an email that you sent to our “Player Info” site which expressed concern about the level of integrity of the NCEL and our Pick 3 game.  Since the Security Division is responsible for preserving the integrity of every game that is introduced to the citizens and visitors of North Carolina and conducts the Carolina Pick 3, Pick 4 and Cash 5 games, I thought I would email you and address the concerns you mentioned in your email to us and others.

       

      The oversight of the daily in-state online drawings is the responsibility of the Security Division.  Preserving the integrity of these games is more than a job to the NCEL and Security Draw Team members.  This responsibility is a mandate and is taken very seriously.   In order to address your concerns regarding our Pick 3 game I am willing to provide a little insight into the level of security surrounding our drawings.   Your  concerns referenced in your email dealt with the Carolina Pick 3 game so my comments will address specifically that game.  However, these remarks relate to all of our in-state online games which include Carolina Pick 4 and Carolina Cash 5.

       

      The NCEL conducts two (2) Pick 3 drawings daily,  with the exception of Sunday.  Each drawing requires two (2) Draw Specialists and one (1) External Auditor.  The “live draw” for the day drawing takes 30 seconds and the evening “live draw” takes 1 minute 15 seconds. 

       

      In order for the Draw Specialist and External Auditor to maintain the highest level of integrity of our games  seventy plus (70+) integrity steps in the draw procedures must be performed.  The following seven (7) steps and at least 63 additional processes must be performed and signed-off by the external auditor before the numbers selected during the “live draw” can be certified.  The certification of all winning numbers must be confirmed by all of the draw team members. 

       

      In order to document this level of security and adherence of our draw procedures, prior to all drawings being aired by our affiliated TV station, the draw team  must arrive at the studio hours in advance.  In short, it takes 30 seconds or 1 minute and 15 seconds to conduct the live draw but from start to finish it takes 2 hours  to complete the integrity checks for the day drawing and three (3) hours to complete the integrity checks for the evening drawings.

       

                      Some of the integrity checks performed include:

       

      • ·        Randomly selecting the game machines for that particular drawing.
      • ·        Randomly selecting the ball sets to be used in that drawing.
      • ·        Verify that all ball sets used during the draw contain  ball numbers (0-9), are from the same ball set and each ball set is  loaded in the correct game machine chamber.
      • ·        Perform three (3) pre-test drawings of the machines and ball sets prior to the “live draw” to verify functionality of the machines and randomness of the numbers selected.
      • ·        Perform the “live draw.”
      • ·        Perform “Post-Test” to verify randomness of ball numbers selected. 
      • ·        Have the Draw Team and External Auditor certify the official winning numbers.
      • ·        Complete and verify the seventy plus (70+) integrity checks were conducted and passed. 

       

       

      At no time during the 2-3 hour drawing process is anyone left alone to monitor the machines.  “Dual Control,”

      ( two or more people), is required at all times.  Additionally, the NCEL statute requires all of our drawings to be video and audio recorded.   

       

      Regarding your comments relating to the North Carolina Education Lottery Pick 3 payout versus Virginia and South Carolina payout, it is important to understand that our game design is the same as Virginia and South Carolina and our current payout for the Carolina Pick 3 game is slightly over 50% for the year which is the game design payout.

       

      Playing the lottery is fun, exciting and above all else a game of chance.  The common denominator that places all players on an equal playing field is randomness.  The NCEL is proud of the integrity level  and randomness of our games.

       

      I hope this information addresses your concern about the integrity of the NCEL games.  I  extend an invitation to you and encourage you to attend one of our drawings if you still have any concerns about our process. 

       

      Arrangements can be made by contacting me at the North Carolina Education Lottery at 919-301-3300.

      A background is required and you must be eighteen (18)years of age to observe any drawing.

       

       

       

      Thank you for your continued support of education in North Carolina.

       

       

       

      Jerry Carter 

      Director of Security

      North Carolina Education Lottery

      2100 Yonkers Rd.

      Raleigh, N.C. 27604

      919-301-3409 (w)

      919-715-2740 (fax)

       


      E-Mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official.

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        Posted: June 10, 2010, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

        i did a work out for va yesterday and I wrote down 121 and i did not got over the border to play today.

        Phyl, i am getting a few small hits,now and then.I have been keeping up with ur rundowns and they are always on point..Believe me..b4 i put any number in,i check your posts first..lol..I agree with goalisamillion..Va is so much easier to hit..I hate u missed that 121..U gonna have to take that ride gurl..lol...good luck tonight and again,thanks for helping nc players with all your great posts..

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          Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:11 pm - IP Logged

          304 374 488 685 203 350

          watch the numbers and they will fall in place!!!

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            Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

            Taterman, thanks for posting that e-mail from NCEL about their security as I was just about to post something that someone I just ran into while buying my tickets and he was telling me a different story and had me a little worried...he said his girlfriend knew someone that worked at the lottery and that it wasn't on the up & up.

            But then we have had others say the same thing and it seems someone always knows someone that knows a person that works at the lottery...Crazy...so I think I am going to just stop worrying about it as I think if I want to play p3 that's the way it has to be.

            It was nice of that person (Jerry Carter) to go to the trouble to explain exactly what goes on there & it sounds like the security is pretty good to me.

            Thanks again for sharing it with us Taterman!

            Good luck tonight!See Ya!

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              Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:28 pm - IP Logged

              WTG all winners and posters.  Another one I marked off my slip.  I keep shooting myself in the foot! 

              10-Jun
              09   312 122 671 367 108 083 719 192 037 375 955 553
              30    104 040 890 903 361 611 064 641 125 253 517 177
              07   242 428 410 108 084 842 781 816 029 292 854 541

               

              9-Jun
              81   281 810 303 039 975 752 473 736 338 383 598 559
              03   104 040 890 903 036 361 906 064 012 125 651 517
              86   298 984 619 861 103 035 731 317 359 592 350 507
              932
              401
              567
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              I bet your foot hurts Wpb!  I am so sorry about that.

              You'll just have to keep them in forever & ever!...Big Grin Angel

              Here are some I play every single day...375 683 367 724 223 332 179 017...I have other pets but don't play them every day.

              I am trying hard to come up with some more to play every day so I won't have to rack my brain every day for new numbers.

              Good luck tonight!See Ya!

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                Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

                My name is Jerry Carter.  I am the Director of Security with the North Carolina Education Lottery.  I am in receipt of an email that you sent to our “Player Info” site which expressed concern about the level of integrity of the NCEL and our Pick 3 game.  Since the Security Division is responsible for preserving the integrity of every game that is introduced to the citizens and visitors of North Carolina and conducts the Carolina Pick 3, Pick 4 and Cash 5 games, I thought I would email you and address the concerns you mentioned in your email to us and others.

                 

                The oversight of the daily in-state online drawings is the responsibility of the Security Division.  Preserving the integrity of these games is more than a job to the NCEL and Security Draw Team members.  This responsibility is a mandate and is taken very seriously.   In order to address your concerns regarding our Pick 3 game I am willing to provide a little insight into the level of security surrounding our drawings.   Your  concerns referenced in your email dealt with the Carolina Pick 3 game so my comments will address specifically that game.  However, these remarks relate to all of our in-state online games which include Carolina Pick 4 and Carolina Cash 5.

                 

                The NCEL conducts two (2) Pick 3 drawings daily,  with the exception of Sunday.  Each drawing requires two (2) Draw Specialists and one (1) External Auditor.  The “live draw” for the day drawing takes 30 seconds and the evening “live draw” takes 1 minute 15 seconds. 

                 

                In order for the Draw Specialist and External Auditor to maintain the highest level of integrity of our games  seventy plus (70+) integrity steps in the draw procedures must be performed.  The following seven (7) steps and at least 63 additional processes must be performed and signed-off by the external auditor before the numbers selected during the “live draw” can be certified.  The certification of all winning numbers must be confirmed by all of the draw team members. 

                 

                In order to document this level of security and adherence of our draw procedures, prior to all drawings being aired by our affiliated TV station, the draw team  must arrive at the studio hours in advance.  In short, it takes 30 seconds or 1 minute and 15 seconds to conduct the live draw but from start to finish it takes 2 hours  to complete the integrity checks for the day drawing and three (3) hours to complete the integrity checks for the evening drawings.

                 

                                Some of the integrity checks performed include:

                 

                • ·        Randomly selecting the game machines for that particular drawing.
                • ·        Randomly selecting the ball sets to be used in that drawing.
                • ·        Verify that all ball sets used during the draw contain  ball numbers (0-9), are from the same ball set and each ball set is  loaded in the correct game machine chamber.
                • ·        Perform three (3) pre-test drawings of the machines and ball sets prior to the “live draw” to verify functionality of the machines and randomness of the numbers selected.
                • ·        Perform the “live draw.”
                • ·        Perform “Post-Test” to verify randomness of ball numbers selected. 
                • ·        Have the Draw Team and External Auditor certify the official winning numbers.
                • ·        Complete and verify the seventy plus (70+) integrity checks were conducted and passed. 

                 

                 

                At no time during the 2-3 hour drawing process is anyone left alone to monitor the machines.  “Dual Control,”

                ( two or more people), is required at all times.  Additionally, the NCEL statute requires all of our drawings to be video and audio recorded.   

                 

                Regarding your comments relating to the North Carolina Education Lottery Pick 3 payout versus Virginia and South Carolina payout, it is important to understand that our game design is the same as Virginia and South Carolina and our current payout for the Carolina Pick 3 game is slightly over 50% for the year which is the game design payout.

                 

                Playing the lottery is fun, exciting and above all else a game of chance.  The common denominator that places all players on an equal playing field is randomness.  The NCEL is proud of the integrity level  and randomness of our games.

                 

                I hope this information addresses your concern about the integrity of the NCEL games.  I  extend an invitation to you and encourage you to attend one of our drawings if you still have any concerns about our process. 

                 

                Arrangements can be made by contacting me at the North Carolina Education Lottery at 919-301-3300.

                A background is required and you must be eighteen (18)years of age to observe any drawing.

                 

                 

                 

                Thank you for your continued support of education in North Carolina.

                 

                 

                 

                Jerry Carter 

                Director of Security

                North Carolina Education Lottery

                2100 Yonkers Rd.

                Raleigh, N.C. 27604

                919-301-3409 (w)

                919-715-2740 (fax)

                 


                E-Mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official.

                "Regarding your comments relating to the North Carolina Education Lottery Pick 3 payout versus Virginia and South Carolina payout, it is important to understand that our game design is the same as Virginia and South Carolina and our current payout for the Carolina Pick 3 game is slightly over 50% for the year which is the game design payout."

                 

                 

                THIS SOUNDS LIKE HE IS COVERING UP THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CROOKS ! MAN PLEASE VA & SOUTH CAROLINA PAY WAY MORE THAN NCEL !  IF THIS WAS NOT THE CASE THEN HOW COME NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM HEAR HAVE MORE SUCCESS OVER IN THE NEIGHBORING STATES THEN THEY DO HERE ! PLEASE MR. JERKO...FF CARTER, THE NCEL LOTTERY IS DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE YOU THE NC.CROOKED-EL benefits and not the players !

                (Thanks for posting THIS TATERMAN !!!)

                GOAL, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL ? TO REACH PHIL IVEY STATUS!!!

                IVEY(This is the best poker player in the world, Phil IVEY!!!)

                Take's a POSITIVE vision to get to that  MILLION !

                Always play where/when YOU have the advantage !!!!!

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                  Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

                  "Regarding your comments relating to the North Carolina Education Lottery Pick 3 payout versus Virginia and South Carolina payout, it is important to understand that our game design is the same as Virginia and South Carolina and our current payout for the Carolina Pick 3 game is slightly over 50% for the year which is the game design payout."

                   

                   

                  THIS SOUNDS LIKE HE IS COVERING UP THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CROOKS ! MAN PLEASE VA & SOUTH CAROLINA PAY WAY MORE THAN NCEL !  IF THIS WAS NOT THE CASE THEN HOW COME NUMEROUS PEOPLE FROM HEAR HAVE MORE SUCCESS OVER IN THE NEIGHBORING STATES THEN THEY DO HERE ! PLEASE MR. JERKO...FF CARTER, THE NCEL LOTTERY IS DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE YOU THE NC.CROOKED-EL benefits and not the players !

                  (Thanks for posting THIS TATERMAN !!!)

                  Goalisamillion, he didn't post that...it was Taterman that posted the e-mail that was sent to him.

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                    Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                    Phyl, i am getting a few small hits,now and then.I have been keeping up with ur rundowns and they are always on point..Believe me..b4 i put any number in,i check your posts first..lol..I agree with goalisamillion..Va is so much easier to hit..I hate u missed that 121..U gonna have to take that ride gurl..lol...good luck tonight and again,thanks for helping nc players with all your great posts..

                    "Va is so much easier to hit.." Awesome!      FunnyMoney 3Money 4Money 2

                    GOAL, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL ? TO REACH PHIL IVEY STATUS!!!

                    IVEY(This is the best poker player in the world, Phil IVEY!!!)

                    Take's a POSITIVE vision to get to that  MILLION !

                    Always play where/when YOU have the advantage !!!!!

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                      Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

                      Goalisamillion, he didn't post that...it was Taterman that posted the e-mail that was sent to him.

                      I know, That's why I put thanks for posting on the bottom .Thumbs Up

                      GOAL, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL ? TO REACH PHIL IVEY STATUS!!!

                      IVEY(This is the best poker player in the world, Phil IVEY!!!)

                      Take's a POSITIVE vision to get to that  MILLION !

                      Always play where/when YOU have the advantage !!!!!

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                        Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

                        I know, That's why I put thanks for posting on the bottom .Thumbs Up

                        Okey dokey!Big Grin

                        Do you not play here anymore Goalisamillion?

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                          Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

                          Taterman, thanks for posting that e-mail from NCEL about their security as I was just about to post something that someone I just ran into while buying my tickets and he was telling me a different story and had me a little worried...he said his girlfriend knew someone that worked at the lottery and that it wasn't on the up & up.

                          But then we have had others say the same thing and it seems someone always knows someone that knows a person that works at the lottery...Crazy...so I think I am going to just stop worrying about it as I think if I want to play p3 that's the way it has to be.

                          It was nice of that person (Jerry Carter) to go to the trouble to explain exactly what goes on there & it sounds like the security is pretty good to me.

                          Thanks again for sharing it with us Taterman!

                          Good luck tonight!See Ya!

                          Guess they finally got serious with me with my last email..LOL

                          I think i will decline going through a background check and standing

                          around for 2 hours of all the 70+ checks they do..A big NOT !!   

                          But yes vergie it was good to hear from someone that knows what goes on.

                          And i agree with you..We either play or don't play..Guess its playing..LOL

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                            Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

                            Okey dokey!Big Grin

                            Do you not play here anymore Goalisamillion?

                            WHAT'S UP VERGIE ? Man I play here every now and then . Like today I played and hit the 104(as 401). I use to spend a ton of time figuring out what NCEL was going to do instead of concentrating on what I need to do to get a hit . I rolled to VA one night and hit the first drawing and I was sold after that . They dont play the same games that NCEL plays. Thats why I attacked that paragraph pertaining to NCEL paying slightly 50% because its bogus. Im averaging a lot of hits in VA that I could never imagine getting here. Im done playing a ton of money and spending a bunch of time playing here . Its VA and SC or bust for me ! 

                            GOAL, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL ? TO REACH PHIL IVEY STATUS!!!

                            IVEY(This is the best poker player in the world, Phil IVEY!!!)

                            Take's a POSITIVE vision to get to that  MILLION !

                            Always play where/when YOU have the advantage !!!!!

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                              Posted: June 10, 2010, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

                              Guess they finally got serious with me with my last email..LOL

                              I think i will decline going through a background check and standing

                              around for 2 hours of all the 70+ checks they do..A big NOT !!   

                              But yes vergie it was good to hear from someone that knows what goes on.

                              And i agree with you..We either play or don't play..Guess its playing..LOL

                              I agree with you...if some think it's crooked then they just don't have to play!

                              It doesn't do any good to keep on & on about how crooked it is...if we think it is then we have a choice like you said...play or not play!

                              Just like that man that told me tonight that they already know which number is going to hit before it hits & he said they feed the numbers into the side of the machine and that's why we only see a close-up of the drawing which just got me a little upset until I got home and read your post. 

                              I was thinking they couldn't possibly get away with that anyway.  As the man was telling me this he had all of his copies of past year's p3 numbers spread out on the table and he was picking out his numbers...Big Grin

                                 
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