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NJ P5 game, padovan sequence and going forward

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Posted: June 5, 2010, 4:55 pm - IP Logged

Saturday, June 5 2010

Something very unusual has occurred lately in NJ P5, high concentration of 4-hits in Padovan sequence (5 x in the span of 30 games, thats a very high % circa 16%), not sure how to proceed, game can enter long what i call "sleep" mode or continue with this anomaly, running graph of up to 150 past draws, shows that this sudden spike is very unusual, usually one can expect almost monotonous , 3-Padovan hits, interrupted by 2 and descend to 0 and quick back up to 3 and so on... for one this indicates to me it is worth while to "wait", because these scenarios (concentration in a sequence) do happen and second, if to play on daily basis is to play at most 2 and most 3 Padovan numbers

06/04/2010         11 14 21 34 36
06/03/2010         23 29 37 38 40
06/02/2010         04 31 32 33 39
06/01/2010         04 09 15 29 37
05/31/2010         21 29 33 39 40
05/30/2010         01 07 16 21 23
05/29/2010         02 11 24 31 40
05/28/2010         21 24 29 36 38
05/27/2010         15 20 26 32 34
05/26/2010         03 05 20 21 28
05/25/2010         02 04 08 23 32
05/24/2010         17 23 26 29 40
05/23/2010         04 06 14 17 29
05/22/2010         01 02 07 13 21
05/21/2010         01 14 17 19 39
05/20/2010         15 26 28 34 35
05/19/2010         01 02 12 16 30
05/18/2010         01 29 35 37 40
05/17/2010         09 12 21 23 37
05/16/2010         07 17 22 27 29
05/15/2010         02 10 23 39 40
05/14/2010         08 15 23 25 32
05/13/2010         01 15 16 19 33
05/12/2010         10 13 19 33 35
05/11/2010         01 14 38 39 40
05/10/2010         15 18 20 29 37
05/09/2010         16 18 29 32 37
05/08/2010         10 14 19 24 28
05/07/2010         06 29 31 34 39
05/06/2010         09 22 32 35 39
05/05/2010         08 22 27 29 38
05/04/2010         02 08 25 31 40
05/03/2010         06 09 20 22 35
05/02/2010         09 11 31 35 40
05/01/2010         10 12 25 31 34

1 7 1 0 0 0 0
2 7 0 1 0 0 0
3 7 0 2 0 0.775339 0
4 10 2 1 0 0.941176 0
5 10 3 1 0 0.947368 0
6 11 0 0 0 0.943404 0
7 11 1 2 0 0.88898 0
8 13 0 0 0 0.88898 0
9 13 4 1 0 0.871029 0
10 13 0 1 3.01809 0.873852 0
11 14 0 4 3.29286 0.904159 0
12 14 4 2 3.39882 0.923268 0
13 16 2 4 3.37789 0.923268 0
14 16 1 1 3.5713 0.922208 0
15 16 2 1 3.65633 0.934287 0
16 19 3 4 3.59902 0.934287 0
17 19 3 1 3.64954 0.934287 0
18 19 2 0 3.85839 0.968731 0
19 19 4 2 3.97541 0.968731 0
20 20 3 4 3.94896 0.968731 0
21 20 1 0 4.06539 0.976487 0
22 20 4 1 4.25698 0.976487 0
23 20 4 1 4.4763 0.985935 0
24 20 2 4 4.62784 0.985475 0
25 22 2 1 4.84637 0.985475 0
26 23 4 3 4.62657 0.985475 0
27 23 2 1 4.62657 0.985475 0
28 25 5 1 4.81817 0.985475 0
29 25 4 1 4.9124 0.985475 0

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    Posted: June 5, 2010, 8:34 pm - IP Logged

    Padovan numbers can be one aspect of any P5 worth exploring.  I wish you success in your endeavors.

    I,too, am exploring the benefits of Padovan numbers.

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      Posted: June 5, 2010, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

      Padovan numbers can be one aspect of any P5 worth exploring.  I wish you success in your endeavors.

      I,too, am exploring the benefits of Padovan numbers.

      thank you, there is indeed something unusual going on, the "packing" of these numbers in such short time and frequency, I have never seen anything like this before.

      one could almost, wait for 30 days, observe that no unusual "delivery" of these numbers occurred, then enter the game with permutations, timing has always been a challenge, this and guessing additional number (because i have not seen full 5 in the draw), even better possibility happened last year within powerball system, 4 Padovan and 1 Padovan power ball, there is so much money involved
      that sufficiently smart group could enter pool for the whole year with let say 5 tickets a draw, and high possibility of jackpot capture, as an individual such a luxury can not be afforded, hence the importance of timing... thats highly unfortunate...

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        Posted: June 5, 2010, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

        I checked my data on the Georgia P5 game.  84% of the draws to date had at least one Padovan number contained within the 5 drawn numbers.  That is a highly skewed filter.  At 84%, one should at least have one Padovan number in their selection/prediction.

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          I checked my data on the Georgia P5 game.  84% of the draws to date had at least one Padovan number contained within the 5 drawn numbers.  That is a highly skewed filter.  At 84%, one should at least have one Padovan number in their selection/prediction.

          try probing Georgia P5 for "cluster" of 4 hits such as seen in NJ P5, i would be very much interested in your findings... the real advantage is to intuitively measure when such a cluster might occur, and then permute Padovans, on occasions i entered the game too much in advance or after (such as now) , i am not particularly stack on Padovans, in general, any sequence that is monotonic can (and will) stop being so and go to extreme (in the random systems) if you are studying such number sequences (their under and over delivery) I will be happy you post more findings and anlaysis

          cheers

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            Posted: June 5, 2010, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

            try probing Georgia P5 for "cluster" of 4 hits such as seen in NJ P5, i would be very much interested in your findings... the real advantage is to intuitively measure when such a cluster might occur, and then permute Padovans, on occasions i entered the game too much in advance or after (such as now) , i am not particularly stack on Padovans, in general, any sequence that is monotonic can (and will) stop being so and go to extreme (in the random systems) if you are studying such number sequences (their under and over delivery) I will be happy you post more findings and anlaysis

            cheers

            Finding a cluster must await the morning.  I have my computer tied up doing some other analysis tonight.

            May I ask what your definition of "their under and over delivery" means?  I do look at how often a Padovan number occurs but I do not look at the gaps that might exist between them.

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              Posted: June 6, 2010, 3:41 pm - IP Logged

              Saturday, June 5 2010

              04-08-09-14-34

              Sunday, June 5 2010

              1-6-16-28-40
              6-7-16-28-40
              5-6-16-28-40
              4-6-16-28-40
              3-4-6-16-28
              1-2-6-16-28
              2-7-16-28-40
              2-9-16-28-40
              1-9-16-28-40
              1-12-16-28-40

              paper money

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                Sunday, June 6 2010

                09 19 25 28 30

                Monday, June 7 2010

                25-30-31-33-39

                Tuesday, June 8, 2010

                1-6-16-28-40
                6-7-16-28-40
                5-6-16-28-40
                4-6-16-28-40
                3-4-6-16-28
                1-2-6-16-28
                2-7-16-28-40
                2-9-16-28-40
                1-9-16-28-40
                1-12-16-28-40

                paper money (repeat)

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                  Posted: June 9, 2010, 6:16 pm - IP Logged

                  Tuesday, June 8 2010

                  05-15-18-19-23

                  monotonic hits, keep repeat of previous, paper money, hoping actually for miss-fire, not just because of no money vested

                  Wednesday, June 9 2010

                  1-6-16-28-40
                  6-7-16-28-40
                  5-6-16-28-40
                  4-6-16-28-40
                  3-4-6-16-28
                  1-2-6-16-28
                  2-7-16-28-40
                  2-9-16-28-40
                  1-9-16-28-40
                  1-12-16-28-40

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                    Wednesday, June 9 2010

                    04-23-25-27-37

                    paper money = good, but tears will stream if I miss timing opportunity, at 10$ x 30 (think cycle is in/within 30 days range), and also no guarantee if my 4 Padovan will match not to mention that auxiliary number is challenge onto itself, losses can pile up very quickly...

                    We shoot again with the dummy money

                    Thursday, June 10 2010

                    1-6-16-28-40 
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                      from 6/10/10 back 365 draws, here is the data

                      0 draws had 5 Padovan numbers

                      8 draws had 4 Padovan numbers

                      43  draws had 3 Padovan numbers

                      150 had 2 Padovan numbers

                      114 had 1 Padovan number

                      50 had 0 Padovan number

                      I believe that adds to 365 draws.  So there is no clustering of Padovan numbers in the Georgia Lotto. 

                      As to New Jersey, are you still seeing this cluster?  While I am waiting for you to reply, let me check New Jersey to see if they are ball drop or RNG.

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                        I see that New Jersey is ball drop.  That's good for those folks serious about playing lotto.

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                          from 6/10/10 back 365 draws, here is the data

                          0 draws had 5 Padovan numbers

                          8 draws had 4 Padovan numbers

                          43  draws had 3 Padovan numbers

                          150 had 2 Padovan numbers

                          114 had 1 Padovan number

                          50 had 0 Padovan number

                          I believe that adds to 365 draws.  So there is no clustering of Padovan numbers in the Georgia Lotto. 

                          As to New Jersey, are you still seeing this cluster?  While I am waiting for you to reply, let me check New Jersey to see if they are ball drop or RNG.

                          not distribution! clustering! two different things:) , that is see and you probably need graphing software (Excel 2D line graph should do), look for short (I dont know maybe span of 15 days) periods of time/draws where you had >3 Padovan hits, clustering is abut local phenomena (as opposed distribution which is global)

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                            If you look at the distribution, you will see there was no clustering of 4 or 5 numbers.

                            As both New Jersey and Georgai have ball drops, this disparity sems all the more pertinent.

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                              Friday June 11 2010

                              refreshing data window (size of the window: 30 days, from oldest to last)

                              1 7 2 2 0 0 0
                              2 8 0 0 0 0 0
                              3 10 2 1 0 0.729574 0
                              4 10 0 1 0 0.856984 0
                              5 10 1 4 0 0.970951 0
                              6 10 2 2 0 0.917481 0
                              7 10 2 4 0 0.917481 0
                              8 11 0 1 0 0.923616 0
                              9 13 2 1 0 0.923046 0
                              10 13 3 4 2.95525 0.928143 0
                              11 13 1 1 3.12958 0.928143 0
                              12 13 1 0 3.32611 0.960768 0
                              13 16 3 2 3.40308 0.960768 0
                              14 17 2 4 3.41667 0.960768 0
                              15 17 2 0 3.56083 0.976184 0
                              16 17 3 1 3.67912 0.976184 0
                              17 19 4 1 4.01487 0.978899 0
                              18 19 3 4 4.2114 0.985935 0
                              19 20 4 1 4.33522 0.985935 0
                              20 22 4 3 4.21693 0.985935 0
                              21 22 2 1 4.21693 0.985935 0
                              22 22 5 1 4.40852 0.985935 0
                              23 23 2 1 4.50276 0.985935 0
                              24 25 4 2 4.60379 0.985935 0
                              25 25 1 2 4.7344 0.985935 0
                              26 25 1 0 4.41532 0.985935 0
                              27 25 5 1 4.70842 0.985935 0
                              28 25 5 2 5.20496 0.985475 0
                              29 25 5 0 5.13718 0.985475 0

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