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THRUST's avatar - f35l

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Posted: June 6, 2010, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

I noticed recently if you take the 14 most frequent numbers in the last 100 draws of VA Cash 5, today 5/5 was within those 14 and 5/5 the 5th N drawing...actually have been 7 going back to Feb. As well as many 4/5 hits recently. I know nothing is 100% or perfect with the lottery...but it seems like a place to start...I noticed it also with CA Fantasy 5...but with 17 most frequent out of 100 draws...4/5 was in last nights.

VA(14) 09-33-19-17-20-12-08-32-28-31-27-7-01-30

Cash 5 Day was 07-08-09-17-28

CA(17) 23-35-10-28-13-39-31-17-07-37-32-24-18-16-04-34-30

Fantasy 5 Sat. June 5th 18-26-28-30-32

 

Not sure if it will work with MM & PB...I used more numbers for CA F5 coz it is 5/39 game...VA is 5/34.

I use info at US Lotteries to gather my info. and Wheel.

Wheeling is another issue with this. 5-14 in 135 seems to be good but costly...the 5-14 in 43 is good.

 

Thoughts?

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    Posted: June 6, 2010, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

    Very interesting. I'l have to check Florida Fantasy Five now...lol

    Thanx.

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      Posted: June 6, 2010, 9:35 pm - IP Logged

      You don't have to go back so far you can see when groups start getting active repeating numbers.

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        Posted: June 6, 2010, 11:22 pm - IP Logged

        I noticed recently if you take the 14 most frequent numbers in the last 100 draws of VA Cash 5, today 5/5 was within those 14 and 5/5 the 5th N drawing...actually have been 7 going back to Feb. As well as many 4/5 hits recently. I know nothing is 100% or perfect with the lottery...but it seems like a place to start...I noticed it also with CA Fantasy 5...but with 17 most frequent out of 100 draws...4/5 was in last nights.

        VA(14) 09-33-19-17-20-12-08-32-28-31-27-7-01-30

        Cash 5 Day was 07-08-09-17-28

        CA(17) 23-35-10-28-13-39-31-17-07-37-32-24-18-16-04-34-30

        Fantasy 5 Sat. June 5th 18-26-28-30-32

         

        Not sure if it will work with MM & PB...I used more numbers for CA F5 coz it is 5/39 game...VA is 5/34.

        I use info at US Lotteries to gather my info. and Wheel.

        Wheeling is another issue with this. 5-14 in 135 seems to be good but costly...the 5-14 in 43 is good.

         

        Thoughts?

        VA Cash 5 Night was 01-10-12-27-33 

        4/5 from the 14 most frequent out off 100 draws. LOL

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          Posted: June 9, 2010, 8:50 pm - IP Logged

          VA Cash 5 Night was 01-10-12-27-33 

          4/5 from the 14 most frequent out off 100 draws. LOL

          How far down the frequency list must you go to get a 5 for 5?

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            Posted: June 9, 2010, 10:52 pm - IP Logged

            I noticed recently if you take the 14 most frequent numbers in the last 100 draws of VA Cash 5, today 5/5 was within those 14 and 5/5 the 5th N drawing...actually have been 7 going back to Feb. As well as many 4/5 hits recently. I know nothing is 100% or perfect with the lottery...but it seems like a place to start...I noticed it also with CA Fantasy 5...but with 17 most frequent out of 100 draws...4/5 was in last nights.

            VA(14) 09-33-19-17-20-12-08-32-28-31-27-7-01-30

            Cash 5 Day was 07-08-09-17-28

            CA(17) 23-35-10-28-13-39-31-17-07-37-32-24-18-16-04-34-30

            Fantasy 5 Sat. June 5th 18-26-28-30-32

             

            Not sure if it will work with MM & PB...I used more numbers for CA F5 coz it is 5/39 game...VA is 5/34.

            I use info at US Lotteries to gather my info. and Wheel.

            Wheeling is another issue with this. 5-14 in 135 seems to be good but costly...the 5-14 in 43 is good.

             

            Thoughts?

            That probably has been tried many times, players in the Maddog Challenges have been trying to come up with a way to pick 12 numbers with all 5 PB or MM winnings numbers since they started.  Someone might have gotten lucky once, but they never repeated.  You would probably have to include so many numbers that it would still be hard to have all 5 in the same line even if you wheel a 100 lines.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: June 10, 2010, 5:35 pm - IP Logged

              How far down the frequency list must you go to get a 5 for 5?

              That's a $100,000 question or whatever the current pick-5 jackpot is. For starters if you're wheeling 14 numbers it's useless using any "if 5" wheel if you're not going to match all 5 numbers. A 3 if 5 wheel is designed to guarantee a 3 number match but if only 4 are drawn, all bets are off and so is the guarantee. You might get lucky and match 4 four numbers on the same line using a 4 if 5 wheel, but the cost of playing one would cut into the profit.

              If indeed the frequency list does consistently provide 4 numbers then playing a full wheel (2002 combos) would get you ten 4 number matches and several 2 and 3 number matches. For those not interested in handing a clerk $2002 every night, a 4 if 4 of 14 number wheel would give you one 4 number match and a few 2 and 3 numbers matches. The profit would be much smaller and if you get 3 or more days in a row without any 4 number matches, the profit will quickly become a loss.

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                Posted: June 10, 2010, 6:11 pm - IP Logged

                That's a $100,000 question or whatever the current pick-5 jackpot is. For starters if you're wheeling 14 numbers it's useless using any "if 5" wheel if you're not going to match all 5 numbers. A 3 if 5 wheel is designed to guarantee a 3 number match but if only 4 are drawn, all bets are off and so is the guarantee. You might get lucky and match 4 four numbers on the same line using a 4 if 5 wheel, but the cost of playing one would cut into the profit.

                If indeed the frequency list does consistently provide 4 numbers then playing a full wheel (2002 combos) would get you ten 4 number matches and several 2 and 3 number matches. For those not interested in handing a clerk $2002 every night, a 4 if 4 of 14 number wheel would give you one 4 number match and a few 2 and 3 numbers matches. The profit would be much smaller and if you get 3 or more days in a row without any 4 number matches, the profit will quickly become a loss.

                indeed, games are pre-designed with all possible player strategies, I like your analysis very much Stack47, the only way out are extra-ordinary means

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                  Posted: June 10, 2010, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

                  That probably has been tried many times, players in the Maddog Challenges have been trying to come up with a way to pick 12 numbers with all 5 PB or MM winnings numbers since they started.  Someone might have gotten lucky once, but they never repeated.  You would probably have to include so many numbers that it would still be hard to have all 5 in the same line even if you wheel a 100 lines.

                  56-59 numbers is harder to deal with than 34. I am not saying it works everytime...but when it does...it is sweet. I don't think you have to do it on every Cash 5 draw...because like the last few days cold numbers came up alot and you have to find a sweet spot...like maybe not 100 draws but 50 or 25. I have only been keeping tack...I don't have then money to play a 5-14 in whatever wheel at the moment.

                  It doesn't hurt to look into and follow.

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                    Posted: June 10, 2010, 6:40 pm - IP Logged

                    How far down the frequency list must you go to get a 5 for 5?

                    It depends on how much money you want to spend. LOL

                    I am not an expert like some of the people here...I just follow and try to make it work...I am not currently playing though. I like Cash 5 because it is 5/34 game. 

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