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# The Kay Cipher Code

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Zeta Reticuli Star System
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This was developed by Sir Francis Bacon.

Use it to change words or your name into lottery numbers.

For a Pick 3 for your name just total it up.

The code does not use the letters J and V so just count them as zero.

A=27  B=28  C=29  D=30  E=31  F=32  G=33  H=34  I=35  J=0  K=10

L=11  M=1   N=13   O=14  P=15  Q=16 R=17  S=18  T=19  U=20

V=0  W=21  X=22   Y=23   Z=24

Charles Smith would be 29 + 34 + 27 + 17 + 11 + 31 + 18 + 12 + 35 + 19 + 34 = 285.

So Charles Smiths' Pick 3 would be 285 or 582 (285 revrsed)

WIN would be 21, 35, 13.

33 14 14 30   11 20 29 10

Good Luck

Coin Toss

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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This was developed by Sir Francis Bacon.

Use it to change words or your name into lottery numbers.

For a Pick 3 for your name just total it up.

The code does not use the letters J and V so just count them as zero.

A=27  B=28  C=29  D=30  E=31  F=32  G=33  H=34  I=35  J=0  K=10

L=11  M=1   N=13   O=14  P=15  Q=16 R=17  S=18  T=19  U=20

V=0  W=21  X=22   Y=23   Z=24

Charles Smith would be 29 + 34 + 27 + 17 + 11 + 31 + 18 + 12 + 35 + 19 + 34 = 285.

So Charles Smiths' Pick 3 would be 285 or 582 (285 revrsed)

WIN would be 21, 35, 13.

33 14 14 30   11 20 29 10

Good Luck

Coin Toss

Thanks for sharing....I sometimes used a simple numerology 01 -09 ..the letters of the alphabeth eg A=01 B =02C=03 D=04 E=05 F=06 G=07 H=08 I=09 J =01 K =02 etc

I will try  the one you mentioned and see.........

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Hi friendship, thanks fpor replying.

There ares everal methods, the one you mentioned (Pythagorean) is the "standard". There's also a Chaldean and a Kabbalh numbering system, probably others, too.

I had a dream book from Italy and the system it used was

4 3 2 1 9 8 7 6 5.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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Description of the cipher codes:

1. The Simple cipher assigns the letters A-Z numbers in sequence of 1-24, again mentioning the I and J are the same, and also the U and V.

2. The Kaye cipher adds 26 to the Simple cipher numbers A through J which are single digit cipher numbers (1-9). By using the  Kaye method, all 24 letter have a two digit cipher; A-J are 27-35, then K-Z are 10-24.

http://www.light-of-truth.com/Freemasonry/Bacon911.htm

The old Elizabethan alphabet contained only 24 letters, as opposed to the modern English alphabet which contains 26 letters.

The old English letters "i" and "j": (interchangeable)
- In the Elizabethan alphabet the old English letters "i" and "j" were used as the same letter

The old English letters "u" and "v": (interchangeable)
- In the Elizabethan alphabet the old English letters "u" and "v" were used as the same letter

http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/old-english-letters.htm

Revised Chart:

A=27 B=28 C=29 D=30 E=31 F=32 G=33 H=34 I=35 J=35 K=10 L=11 M=12

N=13 O=14 P=15 Q=16 R=17 S=18 T=19 U=20 V=20 W=21 X=22 Y=23 Z=24

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Uh-oh.

I hope Kay Cipher isn't related to the Robert De Niro character in the movie Angel Heart.

His name was Lou Cipher.

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 Posted: July 26, 2010, 2:29 pm - IP Logged

I came up with 292.

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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 Posted: July 26, 2010, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

Raven62,

Thanks for the info.

This was taken out of a 1991 Globe Mini-Mag about lotery numbers.

The Kay Cipher Code in this mini-mag is how it applies to the lottery, based on the writing of a Dr. Robert Hieronimus, author of How To Pick Your Personal Lottery Numbers, Crown Publishers 1985.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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 Posted: July 28, 2010, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

Heres' how to turn the Pick 3 for your name also into a Pick 4 by using the code.

For Charles Smith we have:

Charles Smith would be 29 + 34 + 27 + 17 + 11 + 31 + 18 + 12 + 35 + 19 + 34 = 285.

So Charles Smiths' Pick 3 would be 285 or 582 (285 revresed)

285 is the Pick 3, to also get a Pick 4 simply add the 2 + 8 + 5. That gives you 15.  Make that 1 + 5 = 6, so his Pick 4 would be 2856, or 6582 reversing it.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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