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• Stack47

  

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  Since there has been much debate on system play vs quick picks and I mentioned given the choice when playing MM, I would choose playing the 2 if 5 of 56 number abbreviated wheel over playing 46 QPs because of the coverage, I was wondering how much system players are willing to risk on each drawing.

  Pumpi and I are discussing pick-4 systems and I suggested one with a minimum play of $12.50. Many members participate in Maddog's challenges and I'm assuming some of them play their numbers in PB and MM. There is a 3 if 4 of 12 number abbreviated wheel with very nice coverage on LP that can be played for $12.

  Pick-3, pick-4, pick-5, lotto, and any other type of online games system player's input is welcomed as well as QP players who may spend a like amount.

  Oh and by the way, it's not about "how much would you spend buying a system".
• rcbbuckeye

  

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  As little as possible, LOL.

  A few years ago I stumbled onto BobP's Lotto Logix and I read in there about the beauty of a 2 line wheel. In other words, in a pick 6 game, if you play 12 numbers all different in 2 lines, and capture just 5 of the numbers, you are guaranteed to have at least 3 numbers on 1 line. Compare that to playing 9 numbers on a 3 line wheel, and you are spending an extra dollar, and playing 3 fewer numbers. Granted the coverage is a little better, but to me not enough to spend the extra buck. I think in the jackpot games, cost control is very important, because of how hard it is to hit anything.

  JUST LOOK AT THE ODDS OF ANY JACKPOT GAME, THAT WILL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
• jimmy4164

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  Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2010

  Since there has been much debate on system play vs quick picks and I mentioned given the choice when playing MM, I would choose playing the 2 if 5 of 56 number abbreviated wheel over playing 46 QPs because of the coverage, I was wondering how much system players are willing to risk on each drawing.

  Pumpi and I are discussing pick-4 systems and I suggested one with a minimum play of $12.50. Many members participate in Maddog's challenges and I'm assuming some of them play their numbers in PB and MM. There is a 3 if 4 of 12 number abbreviated wheel with very nice coverage on LP that can be played for $12.

  Pick-3, pick-4, pick-5, lotto, and any other type of online games system player's input is welcomed as well as QP players who may spend a like amount.

  Oh and by the way, it's not about "how much would you spend buying a system".

  My recommendation to poor people -- unemployed, on welfare, etc -- has always been:

  Limit your weekly Lottery spending to no more than what you can earn (or used to earn) in ½ Hour.

  For those with money left over at the end of the week, I up the amount to one(1) hour!

  This applies to either PPs or QPs. 
• Stack47

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Aug 16, 2010

  As little as possible, LOL.

  A few years ago I stumbled onto BobP's Lotto Logix and I read in there about the beauty of a 2 line wheel. In other words, in a pick 6 game, if you play 12 numbers all different in 2 lines, and capture just 5 of the numbers, you are guaranteed to have at least 3 numbers on 1 line. Compare that to playing 9 numbers on a 3 line wheel, and you are spending an extra dollar, and playing 3 fewer numbers. Granted the coverage is a little better, but to me not enough to spend the extra buck. I think in the jackpot games, cost control is very important, because of how hard it is to hit anything.

  Had I read BobP's opinions on wheels before playing a 3 if 5 of 15 number 13 combo abbreviated wheel, I'd known I'd probably still lose $3 even if I matched all 5 numbers which I did. It was less than a week later when I read it in Lotto Logix so I entered the same 15 numbers using the same order into five other 15 number abbreviated wheels to compare results. None of them showed a 5 number match but the 4 if 5 wheel preformed as expected and the 3 if 4 wheel and Lucky's 2 if 2 wheel also had 4 numbers matches.

  Because the system required me to use 15 numbers, I had a choice of 6 abbreviated wheels with playing costs of $13 and $15 for the 2 if 2s, $13 for the 3 if 5, $24 for the 3 if 4, $57 for the 3 if 3, $95 for the 4 if 5, or a 7th choice of a full wheel with a way over my head cost of $3003. Another option was playing just 3 lines but if only 3 numbers matched, I'd probably get one 2 number match at a loss too.

  For that particular drawing the results showed the minimum cost at $15 as the best option, but for overall play when the system consistently matched 3 numbers with an occasional 4 number match, 3 number match payoffs are needed to offset the cost waiting for the rare all 5 numbers match. When I found I could get almost the same results using 14 numbers, I settled on the 3 if 4 wheel costing $19.

  My game of choice was the 5/39 Ohio Rolling Cash 5 where a 2 number matches pays $1, 3 numbers pay $10, and 4 pays $300. I played the system every day for 6 weeks at a profit helped by two 4 number matches before I noticed the system was failing to consistently match 3 numbers numbers so I  took my small profit and ran.

  "Compare that to playing 9 numbers on a 3 line wheel, and you are spending an extra dollar, and playing 3 fewer numbers."

  By getting more coverage for $1 less it's the obvious choice providing the payoffs are offsetting  the cost of play until you get the 6 number match.
• jimmy4164

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  Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Aug 16, 2010

  Had I read BobP's opinions on wheels before playing a 3 if 5 of 15 number 13 combo abbreviated wheel, I'd known I'd probably still lose $3 even if I matched all 5 numbers which I did. It was less than a week later when I read it in Lotto Logix so I entered the same 15 numbers using the same order into five other 15 number abbreviated wheels to compare results. None of them showed a 5 number match but the 4 if 5 wheel preformed as expected and the 3 if 4 wheel and Lucky's 2 if 2 wheel also had 4 numbers matches.

  Because the system required me to use 15 numbers, I had a choice of 6 abbreviated wheels with playing costs of $13 and $15 for the 2 if 2s, $13 for the 3 if 5, $24 for the 3 if 4, $57 for the 3 if 3, $95 for the 4 if 5, or a 7th choice of a full wheel with a way over my head cost of $3003. Another option was playing just 3 lines but if only 3 numbers matched, I'd probably get one 2 number match at a loss too.

  For that particular drawing the results showed the minimum cost at $15 as the best option, but for overall play when the system consistently matched 3 numbers with an occasional 4 number match, 3 number match payoffs are needed to offset the cost waiting for the rare all 5 numbers match. When I found I could get almost the same results using 14 numbers, I settled on the 3 if 4 wheel costing $19.

  My game of choice was the 5/39 Ohio Rolling Cash 5 where a 2 number matches pays $1, 3 numbers pay $10, and 4 pays $300. I played the system every day for 6 weeks at a profit helped by two 4 number matches before I noticed the system was failing to consistently match 3 numbers numbers so I  took my small profit and ran.

  "Compare that to playing 9 numbers on a 3 line wheel, and you are spending an extra dollar, and playing 3 fewer numbers."

  By getting more coverage for $1 less it's the obvious choice providing the payoffs are offsetting  the cost of play until you get the 6 number match.

  Stack47,

  "My game of choice was the 5/39 Ohio Rolling Cash 5 where a 2 number matches pays $1, 3 numbers pay $10, and 4 pays $300. I played the system every day for 6 weeks at a profit helped by two 4 number matches before I noticed the system was failing to consistently match 3 numbers numbers  so I  took my small profit and ran."

  Now, this is an intelligent approach to playing the lottery! 

  (Minimizing losses while you wait and hope for the Big Win!)