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MADDOG'S Powerball Challenges (The Details)

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Ever since seeing the Challenges and how they are scored, I've wanted to write a program to unwind all 3,168 Tickets that the 12 White Balls and 4 Powerball choices represent, and then score them using the actuall Lottery Payoff Values.  I finally did it today.  I am hoping that the results will help to clarify some of the issues that we've been hashing over in the Lottery Discussion and Lottery Systems Forums.  This should be the case since I think it can be assumed that those submitting their 12+4 numbers to the challenge are picking them with a purpose and a belief that they will produce more profit than can be expected by chance.

It's quite late here and I'm not sure the program is thoroughly debugged, but I'm Posting the results anyway with the hope that there will be interest in the idea, and I might get some help in the form of DISCOVERY OF ERRORS. (IF ANY) 

These results are preliminary! 

If you find any descrepancies here, PLEASE post a critique!

The only Challenge date I've prepared a data input file for is 2010/08/28.  Here it is:

2010/08/28
04,22,27,32,56,13    // Drawing Results
34000000.00,200000.00,10000.00,100.00,100.00,7.00,7.00,4.00,3.00   // Payout Amounts
01,04,11,14,21,29,37,39,41,48,50,54,02,07,27,44,cope  // 12 WBs followed by 4 PBs
05,07,16,20,26,32,37,41,42,49,50,52,08,11,15,21,Old_Eagle
05,13,19,21,23,24,33,36,44,45,54,56,23,27,28,29,rcbuckeye
05,06,11,18,20,24,27,33,38,41,46,53,05,18,20,27,geos*5666!
01,11,19,20,26,30,35,42,46,48,53,54,01,12,14,29,AriesDaRam
04,07,09,13,17,22,23,26,32,47,52,55,11,19,23,26,fja
01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10,11,12,01,02,03,04,Jimmy4164
13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,05,06,07,08,savagegoose
03,07,14,16,25,29,32,36,41,42,48,50,06,10,21,35,sully16
07,10,14,18,22,26,28,33,37,38,47,57,08,23,28,38,x1kosmic
02,07,09,13,27,29,30,31,41,54,55,58,15,25,27,32,MADDOG10
05,09,11,15,24,29,37,39,40,43,51,54,04,16,27,32,qwerty928
03,24,26,31,32,34,37,40,42,46,47,56,06,13,22,36,JonnyBgood07
03,04,07,12,15,22,25,27,31,34,43,53,04,15,22,33,ctech
02,07,08,11,13,18,26,28,31,44,46,53,05,09,11,32,Litebets27
03,05,08,14,21,24,26,30,35,37,40,54,11,13,18,30,konane
02,05,08,13,17,22,32,35,41,44,53,54,05,20,21,34,jarasan
07,11,17,22,26,27,29,32,37,46,52,57,02,09,23,32,winlotta
01,06,09,10,15,17,19,27,28,41,46,48,16,25,36,37,CutlassBob
06,09,12,17,21,25,27,29,30,32,33,37,27,31,36,39,RJOh
05,14,16,17,21,22,32,37,38,41,49,52,20,21,23,37,butch2030
05,08,13,14,15,21,24,40,41,46,49,54,05,15,21,37,Blackdave
03,08,13,21,25,28,29,46,47,51,54,56,08,13,15,23,grave
03,06,14,18,21,24,30,39,42,45,54,59,07,12,20,33,Raven62

The DETAILED  Results can be accessed here:

http://www.box.net/shared/g6u2q01ou7

Here are the summary results based on buying a $1 Powerball ticket for EACH of the 3,168 unique combinations that can be wheeled from the 12 + 4 Challenge entry numbers.

MADDOG'S Powerball Challenge
2010/08/28
Powerball Winning Draw:  4   22   27   32   56    (+ 13 )
--------------------------
cope
 1   4   11   14   21   29   37   39   41   48   50   54 
 2   7   27   44 
cope  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
Old_Eagle
 5   7   16   20   26   32   37   41   42   49   50   52 
 8   11   15   21 
Old_Eagle  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
rcbuckeye
 5   13   19   21   23   24   33   36   44   45   54   56 
 23   27   28   29 
rcbuckeye  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
geos*5666!
 5   6   11   18   20   24   27   33   38   41   46   53 
 5   18   20   27 
geos*5666!  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
AriesDaRam
 1   11   19   20   26   30   35   42   46   48   53   54 
 1   12   14   29 
AriesDaRam  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
fja
 4   7   9   13   17   22   23   26   32   47   52   55 
 11   19   23   26 
fja  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
--------------------------
Jimmy4164
 1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   11   12 
 1   2   3   4 
Jimmy4164  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
savagegoose
 13   14   15   16   17   18   19   20   21   22   23   24 
 5   6   7   8 
savagegoose  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
sully16
 3   7   14   16   25   29   32   36   41   42   48   50 
 6   10   21   35 
sully16  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
x1kosmic
 7   10   14   18   22   26   28   33   37   38   47   57 
 8   23   28   38 
x1kosmic  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
MADDOG10
 2   7   9   13   27   29   30   31   41   54   55   58 
 15   25   27   32 
MADDOG10  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
qwerty928
 5   9   11   15   24   29   37   39   40   43   51   54 
 4   16   27   32 
qwerty928  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
JonnyBgood07
 3   24   26   31   32   34   37   40   42   46   47   56 
 6   13   22   36 
JonnyBgood07  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 3276    Equity = $ 108
--------------------------
ctech
 3   4   7   12   15   22   25   27   31   34   43   53 
 4   15   22   33 
ctech  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
--------------------------
Litebets27
 2   7   8   11   13   18   26   28   31   44   46   53 
 5   9   11   32 
Litebets27  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
konane
 3   5   8   14   21   24   26   30   35   37   40   54 
 11   13   18   30 
konane  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 2376    Equity = $-792
--------------------------
jarasan
 2   5   8   13   17   22   32   35   41   44   53   54 
 5   20   21   34 
jarasan  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
winlotta
 7   11   17   22   26   27   29   32   37   46   52   57 
 2   9   23   32 
winlotta  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
--------------------------
CutlassBob
 1   6   9   10   15   17   19   27   28   41   46   48 
 16   25   36   37 
CutlassBob  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
RJOh
 6   9   12   17   21   25   27   29   30   32   33   37 
 27   31   36   39 
RJOh  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
butch2030
 5   14   16   17   21   22   32   37   38   41   49   52 
 20   21   23   37 
butch2030  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
Blackdave
 5   8   13   14   15   21   24   40   41   46   49   54 
 5   15   21   37 
Blackdave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
--------------------------
grave
 3   8   13   21   25   28   29   46   47   51   54   56 
 8   13   15   23 
grave  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 2706    Equity = $-462
--------------------------
Raven62
 3   6   14   18   21   24   30   39   42   45   54   59 
 7   12   20   33 
Raven62  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168


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    Maddog's Powerball Challenge

    2010/09/11  Results Details

    As of this Posting,

    I have received no Error reports for 2010/08/28.

    If you find any descrepancies here, PLEASE post a critique!

    If the results appear correct as far as you can see, it would be nice if you would report something like,

    "The Summary and Detailed results for 2010/08/28 agree with my records of my entry."

    Here are the DETAILS for 2010/09/11

    http://www.box.net/shared/2pa183b6nb

    Here is the Summary:

    2010/09/11
    Powerball Winning Draw:  7   17   20   36   59    (+ 33 )
    --------------------------
    fja
     10   11   14   18   19   21   33   35   39   40   45   57 
     2   5   6   18 
    fja  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    HoLeeKau
     2   4   5   7   11   12   14   19   22   28   40   56 
     15   22   24 
    HoLeeKau  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-2376
    --------------------------
    winlotta
     4   15   20   21   27   28   30   34   36   40   48   52 
     2   3   7   10 
    winlotta  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    butch2030
     5   14   16   17   21   22   32   37   38   41   49   52 
     20   21   23   37 
    butch2030  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    JonnyBgood07
     3   13   17   23   25   32   33   44   43   46   47   55 
     2   9   25   39 
    JonnyBgood07  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    AriesDaRam
     1   11   19   20   26   30   35   42   46   48   53   54 
     1   12   14   29 
    AriesDaRam  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    geos*5666!
     3   6   10   15   22   27   30   36   39   41   48   53 
     10   15   22   27 
    geos*5666!  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    konane
     2   7   15   18   23   26   28   30   34   36   41   54 
     10   11   18   34 
    konane  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    MADDOG10
     1   4   13   15   16   24   26   27   32   37   44   49 
     5   22   24   27 
    MADDOG10  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    sully16
     3   6   12   18   22   24   34   35   36   37   41   46 
     5   8   23   36 
    sully16  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    cope
     1   7   16   18   21   24   33   39   44   47   52   56 
     9   11   29   39 
    cope  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    ctech
     3   5   6   13   15   16   21   22   23   33   32   46 
     3   22   25   26 
    ctech  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    Magma
     8   12   23   24   25   27   34   39   44   49   50   51 
     13   37 
    Magma  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-1584
    --------------------------
    shagadelica
     4   14   15   21   22   27   28   33   38   43   44   53 
     7   17   27   37 
    shagadelica  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    jimjwright
     5   14   20   22   30   32   37   38   42   49   52   53 
     19   21   23   27 
    jimjwright  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    jarasan
     5   6   14   18   20   22   23   29   34   40   49   58 
     5   20   21   34 
    jarasan  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    Blackdave
     1   5   13   18   20   24   26   34   37   41   49   58 
     5   11   21   37 
    Blackdave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    CutlassBob
     3   7   14   15   17   18   21   26   36   38   48   51 
     10   13   14   15 
    CutlassBob  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
    --------------------------
    Litebets27
     1   9   12   15   22   25   29   33   36   45   47   53 
     2   7   11   25 
    Litebets27  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    RJOh
     9   10   13   16   21   26   28   32   37   45   51   53 
     2   13   25   27 
    RJOh  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    four4me
     8   19   23   25   28   30   31   38   44   45   49   50 
     9   23   24   34 
    four4me  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    rcbbuckeye
     2   6   10   17   23   24   30   31   42   45   53   54 
     10   11   12   35 
    rcbbuckeye  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    mymonthlypicks
     1   6   11   19   23   33   35   37   42   47   49   55 
     5   13   17   26 
    mymonthlypicks  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    grave
     3   8   13   21   25   28   29   46   47   51   54   56 
     8   13   15   23 
    grave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
    --------------------------
    Raven62
     2   5   13   18   23   25   34   38   41   49   54   59 
     5   9   12   33 
    Raven62  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 2706    Equity = $-462

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      Thats pretty amazing that you did that...!!!

      It would be a great addition to the stats, but I imagine,,,it takes a lot to write it and maintain it statistically....But a very cool program!!

      "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      


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        Thats pretty amazing that you did that...!!!

        It would be a great addition to the stats, but I imagine,,,it takes a lot to write it and maintain it statistically....But a very cool program!!

        Thanks fja,

        I hope you have time to do a few spot checks of the details so I can feel more secure with the code.

        --Jimmy4164

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          That is very cool!  Does it take a lot of time to input or run?

          The last game makes sense from the results Raven got a better return 'cause of the Pball than 3 of 5.  792 hits when you get the powerball

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            very cool,Smiley thanks.

             HyperBe Happy.

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              nice work, thats for doing it, I appreciate your efforts.

              2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016  = -1171; 2017 = ?  TOT =  -3596

              keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= -424; 2017 = ? TOT = - 3318


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                MADDOG'S Powerball Challenge

                2010/0915

                Note:

                Thanks for the Thanks for posting these results.

                Although I've now tried to "break" the program with lots of fictitious input data, I would still like to hear from someone who has at least spot checked some of the detailed output.

                Thanks again!

                --Jimmy4164

                The details can be accessed here:

                http://www.box.net/shared/lo6u53i6tj

                Summary

                MadDog's Powerball Challenge
                2010/09/15
                Powerball Winning Draw:  7   20   21   34   43    (+ 34 )
                --------------------------
                Blackdave
                 5   8   15   18   24   26   34   37   41   44   50   58 
                 5   17   21   37 
                Blackdave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                rcbbuckeye
                 4   7   11   20   23   33   38   39   45   47   52   56 
                 14   15   16   23 
                rcbbuckeye  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168 
                --------------------------
                Old_Eagle
                 5   7   16   20   26   32   37   41   42   49   50   52 
                 6   10   25   31 
                Old_Eagle  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                fja
                 10   11   14   18   19   21   33   35   39   40   45   57 
                 2   5   6   11 
                fja  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                geos*5666!
                 4   9   13   16   20   21   28   34   37   42   49   56 
                 8   13   16   25 
                geos*5666!  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
                --------------------------
                savagegoose
                 3   5   7   20   21   23   26   47   48   56   50   55 
                 3   18   23   28 
                savagegoose  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
                --------------------------
                HoLeeKau
                 4   5   7   11   14   24   31   35   42   53 
                 16   19   22   33 
                HoLeeKau  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-1008
                --------------------------
                C0W_Pi3
                 3   10   15   18   21   29   34   41   49   52   56   59 
                 4   6   24   38 
                C0W_Pi3  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                mymonthlypicks
                 1   6   11   19   23   33   35   37   42   47   49   55 
                 5   13   17   26 
                mymonthlypicks  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                ctech
                 3   6   9   22   25   33   36   41   42   43   44   53 
                 5   15   22   33 
                ctech  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                konane
                 1   2   8   15   26   28   32   34   37   41   54   58 
                 7   10   18   21 
                konane  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                beverette
                 5   8   11   13   22   23   24   28   32   41   46   49 
                 6   12   15   38 
                beverette  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                shagadelica
                 8   12   14   16   18   19   26   29   31   35   50   51 
                 1   11   21   31 
                shagadelica  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                JonnyBgood07
                 7   15   17   21   24   26   27   29   30   35   41   45 
                 6   12   24   33 
                JonnyBgood07  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                rdgrnr
                 2   5   6   14   16   21   24   30   32   35   50   58 
                 5   26   29   32 
                rdgrnr  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                jarasan
                 6   7   14   15   22   23   29   30   34   37   41   52 
                 5   20   21   34 
                jarasan  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 3276    Equity = $ 108
                --------------------------
                MADDOG10
                 7   18   22   23   25   29   34   42   43   44   50   52 
                 7   17   18   24 
                MADDOG10  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
                --------------------------
                delores247
                 9   10   19   21   29   31   33   37   47   52   57   58 
                 9   21   33   37 
                delores247  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                four4me
                 8   19   23   25   28   30   31   38   44   45   49   50 
                 9   23   24   34 
                four4me  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 2376    Equity = $-792
                --------------------------
                Litebets27
                 1   4   7   8   14   17   22   38   44   45   53   55 
                 6   10   23   32 
                Litebets27  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                RJOh
                 12   14   31   32   34   36   40   43   45   49   52   58 
                 19   23   27   37 
                RJOh  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                CutlassBob
                 11   12   15   17   18   22   23   28   36   39   41   51 
                 17   18   19   21 
                CutlassBob  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                grave
                 3   8   13   21   25   28   29   46   47   51   54   56 
                 8   13   15   23 
                grave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                jimmy4164
                 6   9   18   20   22   28   36   39   44   49   54   59 
                 7   10   14   38 
                jimmy4164  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                winlotta
                 5   13   17   24   27   32   35   41   46   51   54   55 
                 13   15   24   36 
                winlotta  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                Raven62
                 3   5   13   15   24   28   30   37   41   49   50   58 
                 9   11   14   21 
                Raven62  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                --------------------------
                jimjwright
                 4   7   10   12   22   23   26   27   31   32   52   56 
                 19   21   27   39 
                jimjwright  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168

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                  Excellent Job. Thx for the info Jimmy4164.

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                    MadDog's Powerball Challenge

                    2010/08/18

                    Access the Details here:

                    http://www.box.net/shared/ariirpnmty

                    SUMMARY

                    MadDog's Powerball Challenge
                    2010/08/18
                    Powerball Winning Draw:  4   32   33   47   55    (+ 39 )
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                    Stu26
                     2   9   10   17   25   26   31   36   42   48   52   58 
                     6   14   18   20 
                    Stu26  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    Genome
                     5   9   14   15   17   31   32   35   36   39 
                     16   29 
                    Genome  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-504
                    --------------------------
                    fja
                     4   7   14   19   22   23   26   28   32   35   52   55 
                     5   19   23   26 
                    fja  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
                    --------------------------
                    rcbbuckeye
                     4   6   17   18   19   22   23   24   44   45   50   54 
                     17   18   19   23 
                    rcbbuckeye  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    geos*5666!
                     1   6   13   14   20   25   28   31   36   40   45   58 
                     7   18   19   22 
                    geos*5666!  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    dr65
                     15   22   24   25   26   41   42   44   49   51   53   56 
                     11   15   21   26 
                    dr65  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    ressuccess
                     3   6   12   18   22   25   26   27   35   42   49   55 
                     7   13   28   35 
                    ressuccess  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    butch2030
                     5   14   16   17   21   22   32   37   38   41   49   52 
                     20   21   23   37 
                    butch2030  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    HoLeeKau
                     5   20   34   43   45   47   48   53   55   56 
                     18   22   25 
                    HoLeeKau  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-756
                    --------------------------
                    AriesDaRam
                     1   11   19   20   26   30   32   42   46   48   53   54 
                     1   12   14   29 
                    AriesDaRam  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    MADDOG10
                     8   11   14   17   22   30   31   37   40   45   51   52 
                     4   6   15   23 
                    MADDOG10  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    mymonthlypicks
                     1   6   11   19   23   33   35   37   42   47   49   55 
                     5   13   17   26 
                    mymonthlypicks  Winning Tickets = 144   Total Winnings = $ 1008    Equity = $-2160
                    --------------------------
                    qwerty928
                     5   8   13   15   24   29   32   39   40   43   51   55 
                     11   19   21   35 
                    qwerty928  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    cope
                     1   4   13   16   20   21   22   30   38   41   47   57 
                     2   4   5   6 
                    cope  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    grandmadec
                     2   4   5   9   11   12   19   22   24   28   39   52 
                     7   17   35   37 
                    grandmadec  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    pcurtis
                     1   6   7   10   19   20   34   36   47   49   54   56 
                     10   18   30   36 
                    pcurtis  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    konane
                     2   3   5   8   14   21   24   26   35   37   40   55 
                     11   18   22   25 
                    konane  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    four4me
                     8   19   23   25   28   30   35   38   44   45   49   50 
                     9   23   24   39 
                    four4me  Winning Tickets = 792   Total Winnings = $ 2376    Equity = $-792
                    --------------------------
                    shagadelica
                     12   13   15   17   18   21   23   25   26   28   31   34 
                     7   17   27   37 
                    shagadelica  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    Litebets27
                     1   3   4   10   16   22   30   38   39   42   49   53 
                     4   10   18   25 
                    Litebets27  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    sully16
                     1   2   6   10   14   16   21   26   35   41   48   50 
                     6   10   21   35 
                    sully16  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    winlotta
                     4   9   10   20   23   31   35   40   41   45   52   58 
                     6   7   17   20 
                    winlotta  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    jarasan
                     6   10   13   14   27   30   38   39   44   45   52   53 
                     5   20   21   34 
                    jarasan  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    chances09
                     4   10   20   23   55 
                     1 
                    chances09  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-1
                    --------------------------
                    CutlassBob
                     1   2   9   11   15   17   19   26   29   43   48   57 
                     4   13   25   37 
                    CutlassBob  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    RJOh
                     1   4   16   18   21   27   35   36   40   42   54   56 
                     6   27   30   36 
                    RJOh  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    Raven62
                     2   8   12   14   20   29   32   34   39   44   47   56 
                     7   9   23   33 
                    Raven62  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168
                    --------------------------
                    grave
                     3   8   13   21   25   28   29   46   47   51   54   56 
                     8   13   15   23 
                    grave  Winning Tickets = 0   Total Winnings = $ 0    Equity = $-3168

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                      I mean if you just do the work out it will be fixed for what ever you hit. 1 pball 792 hits, 3 wballs 144 hits,  but it really depends on how one mixes the the pballs and mega balls w/the wballs,  if you were to actually fill out the slips right?????????? cause you could take the first 792  and go every other pball or go straight first 792 w a pball then the next 792 with the next pball or evenly split  it ................. because to be able to play every wball combo with a pball mega ball the cost goes quadruple to $12,672. Right????????// You are assuming the hitting pball or mball goes with the winning combos from the wballs.........in reality more expensive to cover.

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                        Posted: September 17, 2010, 10:19 am - IP Logged

                        That is very cool!  Does it take a lot of time to input or run?

                        The last game makes sense from the results Raven got a better return 'cause of the Pball than 3 of 5.  792 hits when you get the powerball

                        What is the objective of MD's PB Challenge?

                        Try to consistantly eliminate 47 WB's & 35 PB's and retain the WB's & PB's that will be Drawn!

                        To date: This Objective has Eluded All Takers!

                        Unless or until someone can do better than 3+0 in the Challenge: Betting $3168 seems kinda foolish!

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                          I mean if you just do the work out it will be fixed for what ever you hit. 1 pball 792 hits, 3 wballs 144 hits,  but it really depends on how one mixes the the pballs and mega balls w/the wballs,  if you were to actually fill out the slips right?????????? cause you could take the first 792  and go every other pball or go straight first 792 w a pball then the next 792 with the next pball or evenly split  it ................. because to be able to play every wball combo with a pball mega ball the cost goes quadruple to $12,672. Right????????// You are assuming the hitting pball or mball goes with the winning combos from the wballs.........in reality more expensive to cover.

                          You need one full 12 number wheel for each bonus ball. A full 12 number wheel has 792 combos so you'll need 634 playslips with five boards on each playslip. The total cost of play is $3168.

                          If one of your bonus balls matches, you'll have it 792 times ($2376) and if you match 1 of the other numbers with the bonus ball, you'll have 330 $4 winning tickets ($1320) plus another 462 tickets matching just the bonus ball ($1386). You'll need to consistently match 2 numbers plus the bonus number to show a profit.

                          In a full 12 number wheel each number occurs 330 times and every set of two numbers is matched 120 times for a total of 540 tickets matching at least 1 of the 2 numbers you match. 120 two number matches plus the bonus number ($840), 420 one number match plus the bonus number ($1680) and 252 bonus number matches ($756) and a profit of $108 on your $3168 wager.

                          "in reality more expensive to cover"

                          That's the difficult part because you'll need a system that consistently matches the bonus number with an occasional 2 or 3 number match just to break even.

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                            Hi jimmy4164. I didn't know that you have these details about these results.

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                              You need one full 12 number wheel for each bonus ball. A full 12 number wheel has 792 combos so you'll need 634 playslips with five boards on each playslip. The total cost of play is $3168.

                              If one of your bonus balls matches, you'll have it 792 times ($2376) and if you match 1 of the other numbers with the bonus ball, you'll have 330 $4 winning tickets ($1320) plus another 462 tickets matching just the bonus ball ($1386). You'll need to consistently match 2 numbers plus the bonus number to show a profit.

                              In a full 12 number wheel each number occurs 330 times and every set of two numbers is matched 120 times for a total of 540 tickets matching at least 1 of the 2 numbers you match. 120 two number matches plus the bonus number ($840), 420 one number match plus the bonus number ($1680) and 252 bonus number matches ($756) and a profit of $108 on your $3168 wager.

                              "in reality more expensive to cover"

                              That's the difficult part because you'll need a system that consistently matches the bonus number with an occasional 2 or 3 number match just to break even.

                              Thank You Stack for straightening that out for me.  I've always maintained that the first hill to climb is the PBall or the MBall.   Then you worry about the 5 of 5.