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I buy them from a machine 1 at a time until I win. [ 2 ]  [7.14%]
I buy a bunch at the machine, and play till I win. [ 1 ]  [3.57%]
I buy them from a cashier 1 at a time until I win. [ 4 ]  [14.29%]
I buy a bunch from a cashier, and play till I win. [ 4 ]  [14.29%]
I only purchase 1 from a machine, and thats it. [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
I only purchase 1 from a cashier, and thats it. [ 5 ]  [17.86%]
I buy from both, but only one ticket. [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
I buy from both, but play till I win. [ 1 ]  [3.57%]
I buy from both, but only a few tickets at a time. [ 11 ]  [39.29%]
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Posted: November 20, 2010, 7:09 pm - IP Logged

I just was wondering how most folks play scratch offs. I know there may be variations, but which do you do MOST of the time?

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    If I'm winning from one machine, I'll often play that one again. But if it's apparent the roll is a dud after all, I'll change. For example, I think I'll change machines after the only winner on $10 Money Money Money in PA was #27 for $10 when I managed to buy #26-30.

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      Posted: November 21, 2010, 7:12 am - IP Logged

      sometimes I'll but a ticket to a new game, and thats it.

      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

      For a lead role in a cage?

       

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        Here in GA, we have a new $3 ticket, 2011 Cash Celebration. The top prize, unknown yet as to how many, is $2,011 a week for a year which equals out to $104,572 before taxes. It has overall odds of 1:4.03, which is not too bad for a $3 ticket. It just came out, and I purchased 4 tickets, and all of them losers. I was at that point considering going back to chase my loss, which sometimes pays off, but usually does not.

        I decided no to purchase any more of that ticket. Yes, the next one probably was a winner, but by no means was it definite, and even if I won, there would be a good chance that I would just get a free ticket. I have almost exclusively decided to play $5 tickets, but I do like to play new tickets, even cheap ones, especially after I won my biggest lottery win ever, $100, on a $1 ticket. But here is the troubling part: I looked at the ticket, to see what the possible winnings were. There was of course $2011 a week for a year. $60, $15, $9, $1200, $300, $1200, $30, $24, $600, $12, $100.

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          From the above example, the total possible winnings are $108,122. That averages out to a possible play of $18,020.33

          Now lets compare this with a $5 ticket, Holiday Gifts. The overall odds are 1:3.99, with a top payout of $250,000. The possible prizes on this ticket are: $50, $150, $250, $3(will never happen), $25, $2500, $8, $25,000, $250,000, $375, $4(nope), $2(never gonna happen), $200, $1000. The total possible winnings are $279,567, assuming that you won all of the prizes. It is an average of $37,275.6.

          Now enter $10 Jingle Jumbo Bucks. It has overall odds of 2.74:1, and a top prize of $750,000. You can also win $100 instantly by getting a jingle bell, or 5X the prize if you get a jumbo. The prize amounts are: $1, $750,000, $250, $250, $25,000, $2, $1, $25, $10, $40, $5, $30, $20, $500, $2500, $100, $100, $2, $50, $15. The total is $778,901, or an average of $77,890.1

          Note how the prizes, and the odds go up, generally with ticket price. Now even I understand, and am not implying that you will very likely win the averaged amount. But I can tell from my experience that you will consistently win amounts of $20 or over with $5 and $10 tickets, and alot of folks have won more. $100 is not uncommon, and $500 has happened alot, although I often wonder if the folks that win the big amounts just stumble upon their lucky tickets, or do they spend a fortune getting them. With $1 or even $2 and $3 tickets, I have never consistently won much over the ticket price. I was into $10 pretty big for a while, but I found that I was making as much money on $5 tickets, but for half the price.

          Giant Jumbo Bucks is the ticket with the very best overall odds for any $5 ticket, and it even has better odds than 2 separate $10 tickets. So why would I want to pay more for less odds? The ticket with the overall best odds in GA is a $10 ticket, Jumbo Jumbo Bucks. It has overall odds of 1:2.56, with a top prize of $500,000. Even though technically I could win more money in a $20 game, why would I want to spend twice as much for worse odds? I have been by the trash before, and have seen up to 5 consecutive non-winning $20 Maximum Green tickets, one missing, and then the next in the series. So basically, it appears to me that someone spent $100 to win who knows what, maybe a free ticket, maybe $50 or more, it is hard to guess, but I am willing to bet that they did not make anywhere near the $120 that they spent (I saved the tickets as proof, and can reasonably assume from the scratch marks, and that they were all together, that they were purchased by the same individual).

          Does anyone have experience with 2011 Cash Celebration? I assume that it is a seasonal thing, and that there was a 2010 Cash Celebration? Can anyone here in GA confirm that this is the case? Has anyone had any luck with it? I hate to give up after 4 tickets, but it does not seem too promising to me.

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            Posted: November 23, 2010, 3:44 am - IP Logged

            Anyone feel free to tell me their strategy, not only on scratch offs, but online draw games as well. Here is what I have had the most success with right now. I will spend $10 at a time usually, and I will purchase 2 separate $5 tickets. There are several reasons for this.

            1) If I buy 4 $5 tickets, and win $20, then I have just wasted my time. Sure I broke even, and that alone is grounds for celebration sometimes, especially after a hard losing streak, but I still made no money.

            2)I buy a lot of my tickets from a very busy lotto retailer. There are many hardcore scratchers who have their favorite game, and play it until they win, just like many of us have done. If I come in after that guy, I am probably screwed, if I buy two of the same tickets, right after he just won. Then I am faced with losing $10, and counting my losses, or I can keep playing until I win, and then chances are good that I will win less than I paid. Not such a good idea. Sure it can happen otherwise, but statistically, and realistically, most of the games I play will fall on a winning ticket every 3 to 5 tickets, plus or minus, but pretty close. The odds of him only playing my 2 favorite games, and those two games alone, are not as good. He may play both, but I bet he won't sit there and scratch both until he wins, and furthermore, they are not likely to win in the exact same order.

            3)Even though it gives me potentially worse odds, if I buy one of the $5 tickets with the very best odds, and one from a newer $5 game, I usually do better that way. I have spent $10 to make $20 quite a few times. Not getting rich, but doing OK, when that is working.

            4)The worst thing I have been guilty of recently is changing my mind, and switching between two $5 tickets and one $10 ticket. Although the $10 ticket has slightly better odds, I have not consistently won any more money off of a $10 ticket than a $5 ticket. I need to pick a program and stick with it. I have limited myself to no more than $20 a day on the lottery as a whole, most of the time. I usually spend $10, sometimes less. I am going to buy a book of tickets one day. It is not because I think that I will win more than I paid in, it would be nice if I won more money, but what I am counting on is seeing if I can pick out a clear pattern of winners and losers, numbers, spacing, end or beginning, etc. (I am sure that the next book will be just the opposite).

            5)You can figure out within a pack at least, roughly where the tickets are likely to hit. I have had the best luck, overall, on $10 Jingle Jumbo Bucks, for example, on tickets ending in 5 or 9. But the last ticket I purchased ended on 9 and lost, so nothing is certain.

            6)I go to other retailers as well. Now that greatly increases my odds, as there are not as likely to have the same person playing the same 2 tickets, where I play. I also believe that big prizes are likely to be somewhat spread out. The station that I usually play at has only told me that they have had $500 winners. I visited a station I had never been to, and it had a $5000 winning check on the wall, from the Georgia Lottery Commission. I do not, however trust this fellow. I had asked him what the ticket number was, and he told me, but it appeared that he had multiple ticket packs, in the same window! I could be wrong, but this seems highly illegal to me. Even though many of them claim otherwise, I believe that the clerks in some stations win as much or more than the customers.

            8)I scratch my tickets at home most of the time now. Do you? I do this so that I will be less likely to chase my losses. The worst case I can remember was spending $40 at a machine, all on the same $5 ticket, and only winning $5, so I lost $35. Granted the next person probably won a good amount, but I had to ask myself was it wise to go back to the bank and get out more money, for a potential winning ticket, or worse yet, 4 more losers in a row? Not only that, someone could have come along and purchased the winner while I was at the bank. The overall odds are just that, overall. Meaning that you could have 50 losers in a row, followed by 10 winners. Likely? No. Possible? Yes!

            9)I think gas stations like QuickTrip have the most honest and well trained clerks. That being said, the lotto is not their big thing, and I do not believe it is a part of their business model. They want people in and out as quickly as possible. The lotto there is a convenience for added sales, but not where they make their money. I usually purchase my fuel there or at Sam's Club, due to the price and guarantee. I do not buy very many lotto tickets there though. They don't want someone scratching twenty $1 tickets, and holding up the line. Unfortunately, they have a painfully poor selection of tickets to choose from, so I am sure that most frequent scratchers choose the smaller, individually owned stations, which many happen to be owned by persons of Middle Eastern descent. Nothing wrong with that, it is just an observation. 

            It would be nice to have a large, well lit, clean store with highly trained clerks, excellent gasoline prices, clean well stocked restrooms, some nice fountain drink choices with good quality hot fresh food, AND a nice lottery selection, but unfortunately, all of those things usually do not happen under one roof. As has been my observation, the larger the lottery selection, the poorer the rest of the store, and the opposite is true. I wish it were possible to buy gas at the same place that I buy lottery tickets, but I would have to pay way too much for gas. I wish I could play the lottery where I buy my gasoline, but they do not have a large enough ticket selection. In all fairness to QT, I have won my single largest prize ever there, $100 on a $1 ticket, but overall, I seem to lose more at QT. They simply need a better selection of tickets.

            Now there are a few of my ideas. What do you think? Do you agree or disagree, and why? Am I missing a royal gem of a place somewhere? I would absolutely love to buy my gas and lotto tickets at the same place. Let me hear your ideas. I will post more as it comes to me. I live in the Marietta, GA area, just north of Atlanta. If you live in the area, what is your favorite lotto retailer?

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              CarHauler it is very interesting how you break down the odds, and very helpful.

              I live in TN where we have many of the same games GA has but with less payouts. The odds sound roughly the same though.

              How long have you guys had Jumbo Jumbo bucks? You said it has a 500,000 payout...here in TN it would probably just have around 200 or 250,000.

              We do get the Jingle Jumbo bucks (or we have the last 2 years) and I think it has the best odds but only comes around this time of year. I played it probably 15 times last year but never did very well on it.

              Lots of people on this site have always said that GA has better scratch offs than TN, and your input seems to further confirm this.

              For me, Giant Jumbo Bucks are the best way to go for the $5 tickets,  but typically all I win on them are $5 cash or the dreaded "TICKET" (meaning you win a $5 ticket or $5 worth of tickets which culd be worse but I rather win cash). Therefore I have learned to stick with $2 tix if I am buying scratch offs. I rarely buy them (maybe a few a week) as I mostly stick with PB, MM, and Tennessee Cash.

              I will be driving through GA tomorrow and Sunday so maybe I will strike it rich with one of these games!

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                Interesting reading =).. I live at the bottom of Michigan and don't buy my gas and tickets at the same place.

                I have one favorite small market with friendly employees that share what the last person has purchased/won/lost... I go to other stores and buy tickets but seem to win more at old faithful !

                I usually buy $2 tickets and sometimes $1 ones..

                My biggest winnings $60 on each ..

                I stay positive and I WILL win big !!

                Glad I found this board ...

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                  Bought the following Scratch-Offs today spending $100 and won $110. All the tickets have prizes of 1-10 Million remaining. When I cash in my $110 I am going to buy 5 Billion Dollar Blockbusters in a row. Looking for the $10 Million winner. Wish me Luck. I buy mine from the cashier, perferably in a row.

                  Cash Bonanza $10.00-LOSER

                  $200 Million Spectacular $10-LOSER

                  Lucky $100,000 A Year For Life $10-LOSER

                  $2,000,000 Casino Action$10-Won $20.00

                  Lucky $200,000 A Year For Life $20-Won $40.00

                  $3,000,000 Monopoly $20-Won $20.00

                  Billion Dollar Blockbuster $20-Won $30.00

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                    Posted: November 26, 2010, 5:14 pm - IP Logged

                    Here is my scratch off method.

                    I only buy tickets 5 at a time. Regardless of the $ amount I always buy 5. If I have an extra $100 i will buy 5 20's. The secret is, buy them off of the same roll. 8 times out of 10 I win my money back at the very least. I have had very good luck lately. I have hit for $100 4 times in the past 3 days alone on tickets from $5-$10. Im having my best luck on the BWS and $5 Monopoly tix. Just this morning I hit for $170 on 5 BWS. Best 5 I have bought in a while. Anyway, if you dont have the money to buy 5 $20 in a row, dont bother. You're throwing you're money away. Same goes for the rest of the tickets. Since I started using this method I have dont much better and come out ahead more often than not. 

                    I have had 5 in a row lose, but not an anything higher than $5. The $10-$20 always hit within 5 it seems.

                     

                    I only play at VERY busy stores. The 7/11 by my home sells more than 2k per day (large elderly community near by). I buy ALL of my tix there and always from the cashier. I ask what has been hitting and STAY away from whatever he replies with. I then ask what game has not payed out on that certain day and ALWAYS play those games. I think this method helps a lot because some games have already produced good winners in the past few hours. I want a game that has not. 

                     

                    -JJ

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                      Posted: November 26, 2010, 9:43 pm - IP Logged

                      To answer your question yes there was a 2010 cash celebration.

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                        Here is my scratch off method.

                        I only buy tickets 5 at a time. Regardless of the $ amount I always buy 5. If I have an extra $100 i will buy 5 20's. The secret is, buy them off of the same roll. 8 times out of 10 I win my money back at the very least. I have had very good luck lately. I have hit for $100 4 times in the past 3 days alone on tickets from $5-$10. Im having my best luck on the BWS and $5 Monopoly tix. Just this morning I hit for $170 on 5 BWS. Best 5 I have bought in a while. Anyway, if you dont have the money to buy 5 $20 in a row, dont bother. You're throwing you're money away. Same goes for the rest of the tickets. Since I started using this method I have dont much better and come out ahead more often than not. 

                        I have had 5 in a row lose, but not an anything higher than $5. The $10-$20 always hit within 5 it seems.

                         

                        I only play at VERY busy stores. The 7/11 by my home sells more than 2k per day (large elderly community near by). I buy ALL of my tix there and always from the cashier. I ask what has been hitting and STAY away from whatever he replies with. I then ask what game has not payed out on that certain day and ALWAYS play those games. I think this method helps a lot because some games have already produced good winners in the past few hours. I want a game that has not. 

                         

                        -JJ

                        Hi - what were the ticket numbers on BWS? I haven't bought 5 in a row much, because I'd find I'd win for small amounts or get all losers. But I guess it can vary. Good job! I've been buying a couple of different price games each time, and I've been doing better if not great.

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                          Posted: November 26, 2010, 11:57 pm - IP Logged

                          BTW, the $10 games do have 5-6 in a row losers and the $20 games can have 4 losers in a row. I have had BWS 110-115 lose before (a while ago), Winner Green #51-55 all lose, and Cash Fever #14-17 lose. I have a feeling that BWS can go 8-9 without a win. But if a method is hot for you, keep doing it! I'm glad it has worked out. I think I'll try my couple of each game method until it falters. I've had three straight days of at least breaking even or more (lost $2 today - got $26/$28.)

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                            CarHauler it is very interesting how you break down the odds, and very helpful.

                            I live in TN where we have many of the same games GA has but with less payouts. The odds sound roughly the same though.

                            How long have you guys had Jumbo Jumbo bucks? You said it has a 500,000 payout...here in TN it would probably just have around 200 or 250,000.

                            We do get the Jingle Jumbo bucks (or we have the last 2 years) and I think it has the best odds but only comes around this time of year. I played it probably 15 times last year but never did very well on it.

                            Lots of people on this site have always said that GA has better scratch offs than TN, and your input seems to further confirm this.

                            For me, Giant Jumbo Bucks are the best way to go for the $5 tickets,  but typically all I win on them are $5 cash or the dreaded "TICKET" (meaning you win a $5 ticket or $5 worth of tickets which culd be worse but I rather win cash). Therefore I have learned to stick with $2 tix if I am buying scratch offs. I rarely buy them (maybe a few a week) as I mostly stick with PB, MM, and Tennessee Cash.

                            I will be driving through GA tomorrow and Sunday so maybe I will strike it rich with one of these games!

                            Jumbo Jumbo Bucks has been around for quite a while. There are only 28 out of 120 top prizes left. I do not think you have this game in TN, or at least I did not see it listed on the TN website. A lot of the games seem the same, but I was surprised to see that Jingle Jumbo Bucks was only $250,000 in TN whereas the top prize in GA is $750,000. It might be that TN has more top prizes, but they are smaller.

                            I have nearly given up on Jingle Jumbo Bucks. I have never won more than $20, and it sure eats up money fast, if you let it. I would not be nearly as far behind on scratch-offs if I had not played it. It is next on my list to figure out exactly what it has done. Pending research has led me to the conclusion that the problem might lie in the store and not the ticket, but I will have to see. I have found that this certain high volume store that I have referred to may be bleeding me dry. More on that later. I will have to do some experimenting, but I find $5 tickets a lot more palatable than $10 tickets.

                            It is funny that you mention Giant Jumbo Bucks. I just started pouring over my records, and most of my winners were for $5, which is nothing, especially when you paid that for it. My records show that I have also won $20 and $25.

                            Game Name               Ticket Price Top Prize Claimed   Total Left % Gone Odds 
                            GIANT JUMBO BUCKS              $5  $150,000       329     368   39 89.40% 1 in 3.27
                            JINGLE JUMBO BUCKS           $10  $750,000           1         5     4 20.00% 1 in 2.74
                            JUMBO BUCKS CLASSIC          $2  $50,000       1427   1474   47 96.81% 1 in 4.21
                            JUMBO JUMBO BUCKS           $10  $500,000         92     120   28 76.67% 1 in 2.56
                            JUNIOR JUMBO BUCKS            $1  $10,000         840     863   23 97.33% 1 in 4.69

                            I would never consider playing the $1 or $2 Jumbo Bucks series. If almost all of the top prizes are gone, then so are all of the other decent prizes. They should discontinue those; they have mostly played out. Giant Jumbo Bucks is also nearly done, and I am mostly done with it. It will be few and far between. I don't know, I may try it a little more. As far as a ticket, almost all retailers around here will offer you cash, even if it it only says ticket.

                            Good luck.

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                              Hi - what were the ticket numbers on BWS? I haven't bought 5 in a row much, because I'd find I'd win for small amounts or get all losers. But I guess it can vary. Good job! I've been buying a couple of different price games each time, and I've been doing better if not great.

                              I agree 100% and then some. You cannot possibly stay ahead buying 5 of the same ticket at a time. It is mathematically impossible. You might do it once, you might do it twice, but you are not going to turn a profit on a regular basis doing that. If that would work, everyone would do it, and the lottery would be out of business. Yes, granted you probably will possess one winning ticket if you purchase 5 of the same one, but it is extremely unlikely that you will make a profit, not consistently at least. So many folks go and spend $100 on tickets, and win $50, and say look here, I won $50. No silly, you just lost $50.

                              I have a favorite $5 ticket that will win, on average, $15 to $20, when it wins. I have won as little as $10, and as much as $40, and I have never purchased more than 3 at a time. This particular game does not appear to have any winners in the form of a free ticket. If I spend $20 and win $10, then I lost $10. If I spend $15 and win $10, I lose $5. If I spend $10 and win $10, I won nothing, I just wasted my gas and my time. If I spend $5 and make $10, then I have made $5.