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a game i like to call lotto elliminator

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Posted: January 26, 2011, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

here is a forum game i made up, it involves players guessing 6 numbers and as ea days draws come out numbers are removed form their list

or armour added, it takes several months for a game to complete and i thought id ask if peopple wher einterested

as im in australia i will usr our lotto games, and as theyre all x from 45 games it makes it nice and easy so ill post the rules i wrote here

if anyone is interested ill start a game up and give a week to enroll people into it,

although my rules mention gambling thats just to make the game more interesting to gambling types but i dint run or am not suggesdting running a gambling game, theyre just in the rules for completeness.

 

here are my rules

 

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LOTTO ELIMINATOR
================



LOTTO ELIMINATOR RULES.

players select 6 numbers from 1-45 and add their name and 6 numbers to the list.

each night the lotto numbers drawn will be compared to the list.

any numbers matching a drawn lotto numbers will be deleted from the list.

so a player will have less than 6 numbers after a few draws

supplementary numbers are handled differently

instead of remove a number form the players selection, a supp adds armour to the number.

supplementary hits are displayed by writing brackets around the number.

thus armouring that number like this [ 12 ]

if the number 12 is drawn again as a supplementary and u have[12] displayed already it will then be displayed as [[12]] thus being twice armored.


pools draws wont be used as they only use 38 balls not 45.


here is as an example,
say Chris and Cathy play the list will look like this

chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26

angie wants to play so copies the list and adds her numbers

chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26
angie 12 13 14 15 16 17

once the collecting players stage is over the game will become locked, displayed by ================== at the last line

no more players can join once the bars are up

ie


chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26
angie 12 13 14 15 16 17
======================



lotto is drawn and the numbers are

15 18 19 21 25 31 sups 13 24


chris (13) 22 (24) 33 36
cathy 22 23 (24) 26
angie 12 (13) 14 15 16 17
============================



angie took no hits and a sup , Chris and Cathy 1 hit ea and both sups for Chris.



end of example

--------------------------------------------
the power ball is handled different again
--------------------------------------------

the 5 numbers form normal barrel on power ball are handled as normal.

the power ball totally destroys the number it hits if a player has that number no matter how well armored that number is

when a number is destroyed by a power ball hit it also causes +1 ARMOUR to any other number that player has remaining.
ie all remaining numbers get [x] Armour added.


---------------------
so for an example


14 23 26 31 44 pb 24 drawn


chris (13) 22 (24) 33 36
cathy 22 23 (24) 26
angie 12 (13) 14 15 16 17
============================

would result in a game looking like this

chris [[13]] [22] [33] [36]
cathy [22]
angie 12 (13) 15 16 17
======================


chris
24 destroyed, all other numbers get +1 Armour 13 had 2 Armour.

cathy
also had 24 power ball so all get +1 armour , unfortunately she lost 23 and 26 in normal barrel so only 22 gets armoured.

angie took 14 hit , no others hit, and power ball missed,

Chris is looking the clear winner, wow this new powerball seems to work well.
----------------------

game is played until only 1 player has numbers left,

if everyone is out on the same days game, it comes down to the order the balls are drawn.

if that is tied, the person with most balls at start of that days play,

if still a draw , the game is drawn between remaining players.




gambling variant 1
================


there are 2 variants i have thought up.
one involves each person playing to buy a min entry (about $1 ea. ) lotto tickets in the currents days draw as the ante for staying in the game. That
is the fee for staying in the draw for the total pot. if a person doesn't ante up then they're out and lose all rights to the pot. As people are
eliminated they will automatically stop buying games for the pot, and when it gets dow to 2 or 3 payers only 2 or 3 players will be buying $1 tickets
for the pot.

things that will win some of the pot
---------------------------------------


1 ] the 1st person to lose all their numbers will win 1/3 of the pot.

2 ] If a person gets all 6 numbers armored by being sup hit, ie. displayed like this ( 1 ) ( 2 ) ( 3 ) ( 4 ) ( 5 ) ( 6 ), 1/3 of pot.

3 ] by being the last person left in the game, will win remainder of the pot





gambling variant 2
================

similar to variant 1, but only 1 person buys the $1 lotto ticket. It is decided in order of how people listed their names. last person to list pays 1st day.
second to last pays second day, etc. this is advantage to getting numbers in early, but the winner for ties is last person to list name and numbers so its
decision between do you want to be 1st to pay $1, or do you want to win in a draw?

similar events will disqualify a player ie, not paying for the days lotto when you are due to pay.

variant 2 is a cheap game , variant 1 is a good way to win a lot of money for about $1 a day, depending on how well the tickets you get pay out.

22/03/2010 8:25:09 PM somethings come up so ill have to amend the rules to cover it.

people seem to pick either more numbers or higher numbers than the 6 from 45 we play.

so if someone places an incorrect entry i will amend with a random drawn replacement or remove a random number from their selection.

i will do it, either a few hours before the draw time or after the draw time but before i process the numbers. but it will be random so wont matter, i will use random.org website to pick numbers

 

 

further explanation of power ball

 

as its not clear what happens if the same number is drawn as powerball as a regular number. i will explain my resoning and give some examples here


the numbers are processed in order so there are 2 diff results that can happen if you have the number that is power ball drawn as one of the 5 1st barrel numbers.

if your number that matches the powerball and the a normal barrel number is un armored, then the number is deleted before it is matche dagaisnt the power ball,

if the number that matches both numbers is armoured., it will have 1 armour removed during but then the number will still be in the game when compared to the power ball.
then it be deleted., as all the armour asnd thre number are gone froma power ball hit.
]thus you will also get Armour on the remaining numbers in a game


note also it could be that game where 1 person has a number unarmored , and another has same number armored. and the same number happens in both barrels. the person with the Armour would win the game, as they have their number till longer, ie the have it until the power ball deletes it and all its Armour.

now to some examples

john 1 2 3 4 5
joe 3 4 7 18 22


pawerball draw is 4 5 15 33 44 pb 5
would result in


john 1 2 3
joe 3 7 18 22


but
john 1 2 3 4 [5]
joe 3 4 7 18 22

would result in


john [1] [2] [3]
joe 3 7 18 22

and

joe [5]
john 5
with same draw would end with both having no numbers left but john would lose the game as his number 5 was deleted 1st ie in drawn order

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    Posted: January 27, 2011, 3:47 pm - IP Logged

    here is a forum game i made up, it involves players guessing 6 numbers and as ea days draws come out numbers are removed form their list

    or armour added, it takes several months for a game to complete and i thought id ask if peopple wher einterested

    as im in australia i will usr our lotto games, and as theyre all x from 45 games it makes it nice and easy so ill post the rules i wrote here

    if anyone is interested ill start a game up and give a week to enroll people into it,

    although my rules mention gambling thats just to make the game more interesting to gambling types but i dint run or am not suggesdting running a gambling game, theyre just in the rules for completeness.

     

    here are my rules

     

    ---------------------
    LOTTO ELIMINATOR
    ================



    LOTTO ELIMINATOR RULES.

    players select 6 numbers from 1-45 and add their name and 6 numbers to the list.

    each night the lotto numbers drawn will be compared to the list.

    any numbers matching a drawn lotto numbers will be deleted from the list.

    so a player will have less than 6 numbers after a few draws

    supplementary numbers are handled differently

    instead of remove a number form the players selection, a supp adds armour to the number.

    supplementary hits are displayed by writing brackets around the number.

    thus armouring that number like this [ 12 ]

    if the number 12 is drawn again as a supplementary and u have[12] displayed already it will then be displayed as [[12]] thus being twice armored.


    pools draws wont be used as they only use 38 balls not 45.


    here is as an example,
    say Chris and Cathy play the list will look like this

    chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
    cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26

    angie wants to play so copies the list and adds her numbers

    chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
    cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26
    angie 12 13 14 15 16 17

    once the collecting players stage is over the game will become locked, displayed by ================== at the last line

    no more players can join once the bars are up

    ie


    chris 13 15 22 24 33 36
    cathy 21 22 23 24 25 26
    angie 12 13 14 15 16 17
    ======================



    lotto is drawn and the numbers are

    15 18 19 21 25 31 sups 13 24


    chris (13) 22 (24) 33 36
    cathy 22 23 (24) 26
    angie 12 (13) 14 15 16 17
    ============================



    angie took no hits and a sup , Chris and Cathy 1 hit ea and both sups for Chris.



    end of example

    --------------------------------------------
    the power ball is handled different again
    --------------------------------------------

    the 5 numbers form normal barrel on power ball are handled as normal.

    the power ball totally destroys the number it hits if a player has that number no matter how well armored that number is

    when a number is destroyed by a power ball hit it also causes +1 ARMOUR to any other number that player has remaining.
    ie all remaining numbers get [x] Armour added.


    ---------------------
    so for an example


    14 23 26 31 44 pb 24 drawn


    chris (13) 22 (24) 33 36
    cathy 22 23 (24) 26
    angie 12 (13) 14 15 16 17
    ============================

    would result in a game looking like this

    chris [[13]] [22] [33] [36]
    cathy [22]
    angie 12 (13) 15 16 17
    ======================


    chris
    24 destroyed, all other numbers get +1 Armour 13 had 2 Armour.

    cathy
    also had 24 power ball so all get +1 armour , unfortunately she lost 23 and 26 in normal barrel so only 22 gets armoured.

    angie took 14 hit , no others hit, and power ball missed,

    Chris is looking the clear winner, wow this new powerball seems to work well.
    ----------------------

    game is played until only 1 player has numbers left,

    if everyone is out on the same days game, it comes down to the order the balls are drawn.

    if that is tied, the person with most balls at start of that days play,

    if still a draw , the game is drawn between remaining players.




    gambling variant 1
    ================


    there are 2 variants i have thought up.
    one involves each person playing to buy a min entry (about $1 ea. ) lotto tickets in the currents days draw as the ante for staying in the game. That
    is the fee for staying in the draw for the total pot. if a person doesn't ante up then they're out and lose all rights to the pot. As people are
    eliminated they will automatically stop buying games for the pot, and when it gets dow to 2 or 3 payers only 2 or 3 players will be buying $1 tickets
    for the pot.

    things that will win some of the pot
    ---------------------------------------


    1 ] the 1st person to lose all their numbers will win 1/3 of the pot.

    2 ] If a person gets all 6 numbers armored by being sup hit, ie. displayed like this ( 1 ) ( 2 ) ( 3 ) ( 4 ) ( 5 ) ( 6 ), 1/3 of pot.

    3 ] by being the last person left in the game, will win remainder of the pot





    gambling variant 2
    ================

    similar to variant 1, but only 1 person buys the $1 lotto ticket. It is decided in order of how people listed their names. last person to list pays 1st day.
    second to last pays second day, etc. this is advantage to getting numbers in early, but the winner for ties is last person to list name and numbers so its
    decision between do you want to be 1st to pay $1, or do you want to win in a draw?

    similar events will disqualify a player ie, not paying for the days lotto when you are due to pay.

    variant 2 is a cheap game , variant 1 is a good way to win a lot of money for about $1 a day, depending on how well the tickets you get pay out.

    22/03/2010 8:25:09 PM somethings come up so ill have to amend the rules to cover it.

    people seem to pick either more numbers or higher numbers than the 6 from 45 we play.

    so if someone places an incorrect entry i will amend with a random drawn replacement or remove a random number from their selection.

    i will do it, either a few hours before the draw time or after the draw time but before i process the numbers. but it will be random so wont matter, i will use random.org website to pick numbers

     

     

    further explanation of power ball

     

    as its not clear what happens if the same number is drawn as powerball as a regular number. i will explain my resoning and give some examples here


    the numbers are processed in order so there are 2 diff results that can happen if you have the number that is power ball drawn as one of the 5 1st barrel numbers.

    if your number that matches the powerball and the a normal barrel number is un armored, then the number is deleted before it is matche dagaisnt the power ball,

    if the number that matches both numbers is armoured., it will have 1 armour removed during but then the number will still be in the game when compared to the power ball.
    then it be deleted., as all the armour asnd thre number are gone froma power ball hit.
    ]thus you will also get Armour on the remaining numbers in a game


    note also it could be that game where 1 person has a number unarmored , and another has same number armored. and the same number happens in both barrels. the person with the Armour would win the game, as they have their number till longer, ie the have it until the power ball deletes it and all its Armour.

    now to some examples

    john 1 2 3 4 5
    joe 3 4 7 18 22


    pawerball draw is 4 5 15 33 44 pb 5
    would result in


    john 1 2 3
    joe 3 7 18 22


    but
    john 1 2 3 4 [5]
    joe 3 4 7 18 22

    would result in


    john [1] [2] [3]
    joe 3 7 18 22

    and

    joe [5]
    john 5
    with same draw would end with both having no numbers left but john would lose the game as his number 5 was deleted 1st ie in drawn order

    We had a similar game where I worked picking 6 number in the Ohio Super Lotto. The winner was the first player having all six numbers drawn. Thirty people paid $2 a drawing and how much the winner got depended on how long for all six numbers to be drawn. Five drawings raised $300 and not a bad payoff for wagering $10.

    When the Super Lotto jackpot reached a certain level the game pots were cut and some QPs were purchased.

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      Posted: January 28, 2011, 9:36 am - IP Logged

      i ran this ina forum thats now closed for a while. its amzing how many tied gamers there where. i thru in the buy a lotto ticket to go in the pot as a prize, as well u may have guessed im kind of a lotto nut.

       

      came about because i used ot post ea draws numbers and thought i could make a game out of it, kinda keep me interested in posting the numbers.and yeah this goes for months with 5 draws a week!

      2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016  = -1171; 2017 = ?  TOT =  -3596

      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= -424; 2017 = ? TOT = - 3318