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Some thoughts about pick 3 "Doubles"

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Posted: February 22, 2011, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

The pick 3 is really a straight game.

There are 1000 combinations

720 Singles

270 Doubles

So in the long run maybe about 27% of the wining combinations would be expected to be doubles.

That is somewhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of the time, but closer to 1/4.

Some states have only 1 daily draw like Nebraska:

Mon, Feb 21, 2011    1-7-2
Sat, Feb 19, 2011    5-6-1
Fri, Feb 18, 2011    3-3-4
Thu, Feb 17, 2011    6-7-2
Wed, Feb 16, 2011    4-2-8
Tue, Feb 15, 2011    0-7-2
Mon, Feb 14, 2011    3-4-0
Sat, Feb 12, 2011    3-7-9
Fri, Feb 11, 2011    8-3-3
Thu, Feb 10, 2011    8-8-9

Only 10 past draws, but we see there 3 doubles out of combos.

That appears to be normal, maybe too much, but as it is seen elsewhere

2 of the doubles were very close together.

10 Draws are too few, but we see that:

Oldest draw first:

8-8-9

8-3-3

3-3-4

See the movement of those digits? I have often seen such a thing.

We might even sometimes see something like this that I am going to make up and it is not on those 10 draws:

227

220

Like the 2 double digits repeating on the very same side-position.

As there are only 3 doubles there I can do no more here with that game.

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So let us try to look at another game from which I can get more past doubles, a game like Tx, but it has 2 daily draws so that makes for stats complications as I have seen before.

01/01/2011  4  5  2
01/03/2011  2  4  1
01/04/2011  8  2  8
01/05/2011  9  3  3
01/06/2011  2  0  4
01/07/2011  6  8  2
01/08/2011  3  8  1
01/10/2011  9  2  6
01/11/2011  9  6  4
01/12/2011  3  4  9
01/13/2011  6  5  2
01/14/2011  8  7  1
01/15/2011  3  1  2
01/17/2011  2  5  7
01/18/2011  5  0  4
01/19/2011  4  1  0
01/20/2011  2  9  8
01/21/2011  4  4  5
01/22/2011  2  2  6
01/24/2011  5  4  6
01/25/2011  1  5  0
01/26/2011  5  5  4
01/27/2011  1  0  5
01/28/2011  3  2  4
01/29/2011  1  0  2
01/31/2011  1  3  8
02/01/2011  7  2  1
02/02/2011  4  5  0
02/03/2011  1  8  7
02/04/2011  6  4  5
02/05/2011  6  9  8
02/07/2011  6  5  7
02/08/2011  6  5  2
02/09/2011  4  9  4
02/10/2011  4  2  4
02/11/2011  3  8  8
02/12/2011  9  7  3
02/14/2011  5  4  3
02/15/2011  9  0  9
02/16/2011  4  6  8
02/17/2011  7  1  4
02/18/2011  2  8  4
02/19/2011  0  3  5
02/21/2011  6  0  6
02/22/2011  9  3  0

There are some doubles there and most of them at least 2 each close together.

I have seen that often enough before.

Maybe because of that there are many sections of draws were there are no doubles for very many draws.

Random or a trick from the state lotteries? I don't know, but produces both: predictability and unpredictability elements.

There, there are from 1 up to 3 doubles in sequence.

There were there up to 13 singles in sequence without doubles.

Random or not, this way if anybody played doubles during that time would lose a lot of money.

The best way there maybe would have been to play a double after a double comes out, that might have worked there about 3 times out of 6.

Now: How to analize that? A possible way:

8 2 8

9 3 3

4 4 5

2 2 6

5 5 4 3  Draws Double digits on the Lth side position.

4 9 4

4 2 2 Draws Double digits on the sides position

3 8 8

9 0 9

6 0 6 2 Draws Double digits on the sides position

Random at work or tricks for the state lotteries? I don't know

Would such always be like that? A person has to keep on checking stats to see what happens.

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Same doubles used as before

A double is 2 same and 1 other

8 2 8    88 2

9 3 3    33 9

4 4 5    44 5

2 2 6    22 6

5 5 4    55 4

4 9 4    44 9

4 2 4    44 2   A 44 repeat from last double

3 8 8    88 3

9 0 9    99 0

6 0 6    66 0  A 0 repeat from last double

Other than those, no repeats on digits from last to next double.

They have other stats of use such as High-Low, Even-Odd, Sums, LDRs, Roots, Widths, In-Out and whatever else, like difference filters.

As known, they are 3 way numbers: 221, 122, 212.

Maybe that might help somebody a little.

Not all games are exactly the same and the same game might change somewhat from time to time.

Sometime on games with 2 daily draws, the daily draws might somewhat complement each other, that might help somewhat with long No Hits skips.


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    Posted: February 22, 2011, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

    By the way when looking at doubles stats you can look at them as being both 2 and 3 digits, 3 digits is same a singles and 2 is kind of like pairs:

    00X = 01 to 09 = 9 Pairs

    11X = 10 to 19 = 9 Pairs

    22X = 20 to 29 = 9 Pairs, same for the rest below

    33X

    44X

    55X

    66X

    77X

    88X

    99X = 90 to 98 = 9 Pairs.

    There are 2 digits Sums, LDRs, Roots, High-Low, Even-Odd, In-Out, Width, Etc, Skips and Difference filters also.

    9X10=90 Box Doubles.

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      Posted: February 22, 2011, 10:17 pm - IP Logged

      good pick up on the repeat doubles, been seeing that here in mich with the 11 combos.

      over the years of keeping track , usually between 12 and 17 doubles fall in a one month or 62 draw span.

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        Posted: February 23, 2011, 12:49 am - IP Logged

        good pick up on the repeat doubles, been seeing that here in mich with the 11 combos.

        over the years of keeping track , usually between 12 and 17 doubles fall in a one month or 62 draw span.

        Sully

        It happens sometimes or even often and maybe mostly on states where there are 2 pick 3 games a day where on sections of past winning numbers most or all of the doubles are in one of the two daily draws, such as is seen here, 4 Doubles on the Midday and 0 on the Evening, that is only 4 out of 20 = 2 out of 10 = 1 out of every 5 draws or about 20% doubles, very low, this might or should change, it might just be a time of low doubles.

        When these are like this long enough then play singles on the Eve, that eliminates 270 straight or 90 boxed doubles.

        Then on the Midday game it might be O.K. to play doubles, but risky as there are always fewer than singles and the percent of doubles versus singles can change at any time, but doubles pay more than singles boxed and there are 90 versus 120 and are easier to win straight with as the straight chance is 1/3.

         

        Michigan (MI) Lottery Daily 3 Midday Winning Numbers
         Draw Date      Results
        Tue, Feb 22, 2011    1-1-9
        Mon, Feb 21, 2011    7-1-1
        Sun, Feb 20, 2011    0-5-8
        Sat, Feb 19, 2011    1-8-2
        Fri, Feb 18, 2011    8-8-4
        Thu, Feb 17, 2011    2-8-4
        Wed, Feb 16, 2011    0-1-0
        Tue, Feb 15, 2011    1-5-0
        Mon, Feb 14, 2011    6-1-5
        Sun, Feb 13, 2011    6-5-4
        ------------------------------------------------------------
        Michigan (MI) Lottery Daily 3 Evening Winning Numbers
         Draw Date      Results
        Tue, Feb 22, 2011    2-4-8
        Mon, Feb 21, 2011    1-3-4
        Sun, Feb 20, 2011    5-7-1
        Sat, Feb 19, 2011    9-5-1
        Fri, Feb 18, 2011    5-2-4
        Thu, Feb 17, 2011    7-9-3
        Wed, Feb 16, 2011    3-4-9
        Tue, Feb 15, 2011    8-1-9
        Mon, Feb 14, 2011    6-0-5
        Sun, Feb 13, 2011    1-2-5
        ----------------------------------------------------------------

        A thing such as this might happen sooner or later, but can take very long to happen or not.

        Tue, Feb 22, 2011    1-1-9
        Mon, Feb 21, 2011    7-1-1

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          Posted: February 23, 2011, 1:09 am - IP Logged

          0 1 0    01 Sum. 1 LDR, 1 Root, 1 Width Low To High Digits

          8 8 4   20 Sum,  0 LDR, 2 Root, 4 Width

          7 1 1   09 Sum,  9 LDR, 9 Root, 6 Width

          1 1 9   11 Sum,  1 LDR, 2 Root, 8 Width

          Those are just some possible filters patterns, there are more of other kinds, even difference filters and Etc, including some that can be gotten from these:

          The doubles can be taken as a game all by themselves and if wanted, filtration-prediction done separate from the singles, you do need a long list of past draws in order to get a good enough doubles history.

          001

          884

          117

          119

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            Lantern,

            I do not know if it helps, but in the pick-3 back test page (http://lafortuna.info/calculator/BackTest.aspx) the dbls column lists how many doubles where drawn in a seven-day span.

            If you hover over the column heading you will see the explanation.

            For example:

            Num     Dbls

            851         3

            550         4

            120         4

            007

            603

            629

            677

            575

            199

             

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              Lantern,

              I do not know if it helps, but in the pick-3 back test page (http://lafortuna.info/calculator/BackTest.aspx) the dbls column lists how many doubles where drawn in a seven-day span.

              If you hover over the column heading you will see the explanation.

              For example:

              Num     Dbls

              851         3

              550         4

              120         4

              007

              603

              629

              677

              575

              199

               

              Fortuna

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              Hi!

              I went there put numbers into it clicked on go and what came out I didn't understand anything about it, so I don't see how it can help.

              It shows some stuff that is Chinese to me, like when dr san posts.

              Thanks very much anyway!

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                Posted: February 25, 2011, 1:42 am - IP Logged

                Nebraska's Doubles:

                Feb 23, 2011 0-2-0
                Feb 22, 2011 1-2-2
                Feb 18, 2011 3-3-4
                Feb 11, 2011 8-3-3
                Feb 10, 2011 8-8-9
                Feb 05, 2011 3-6-3
                Feb 04, 2011 6-6-1
                Feb 01, 2011 2-7-7
                Jan 29, 2011 5-5-3
                Jan 24, 2011 5-3-3
                Jan 21, 2011 4-3-3
                Jan 20, 2011 0-0-4
                Jan 19, 2011 1-4-1
                Jan 18, 2011 5-3-3
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                There are 2 main factors here with the doubles, the digits that are "Double" and the "Single" digits.
                A person can use the "Regular" filters such as:

                00 LE
                11 LO
                22 LE
                33 LO
                44 LE
                55 HO
                66 HE
                77 HO
                88 HE
                99 HO
                ----
                0 LE
                1 LO
                2 LE
                3 LO
                4 LE
                5 HO
                6 HE
                7 HO
                8 HE
                9 HO
                ----------
                If combined then 4 X 4 = 16 Patterns, but can be used both ways, not combined and or combined, whatever is best.
                So:
                Feb 23, 2011 0-2-0 002 LE LE
                Feb 22, 2011 1-2-2 221 LE LO
                Feb 18, 2011 3-3-4 334 LO LE
                Feb 11, 2011 8-3-3 338 LO HE
                Feb 10, 2011 8-8-9 889 HE HO
                Feb 05, 2011 3-6-3 336 LO HE
                Feb 04, 2011 6-6-1 661 HE LO
                Feb 01, 2011 2-7-7 772 HO LE
                Jan 29, 2011 5-5-3 553 HO LO
                Jan 24, 2011 5-3-3 335 LO HO
                Jan 21, 2011 4-3-3 334 LO LE
                Jan 20, 2011 0-0-4 004 LE LE
                Jan 19, 2011 1-4-1 114 LO LE
                Jan 18, 2011 5-3-3 335 LO HO

                Too few a person really needs a very much longer history.

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