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Using a "same pool" system for Pick 3

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Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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Posted: April 23, 2011, 4:36 pm - IP Logged

This thread is a continuation of the testing of a system designed primarily for "same pool" games being converted over to work for separate pool games such as Pick 3. My system uses filters to elminate sets of numbers that aren't very likely to occur. My system makes this determination by judging characteristics on the "set as a whole". In other words, the numbers chosen from the same pool. For example, this it could be applied to your traditional Pick 5 and Pick 6 game, as well as the "same pool" portion of games that have sets chosen from the same pool, for example, the white ball portion of Powerball, Mega Millions, Kentucky's CashBall, etc. Using a system designed for a same pool game over to a game like Pick 3 is still possible, but with one additional consideration: targeting box hits. The reason for this is because the system itself is picking numbers for a game in which the order of the numbers drawn do not matter. So to convert the system over, it must "pretend" that all results are in numerical order. The way this is done is by pretending Pick 3 is a Pick 3/30 game. Each Pick 3 digit will have it's own "same pool equivalent". The way it's same pool equivalent is determined is by first consider which digit is, such as first, second, or third, then based on what it's 0-9 value is as a digit, find it's same pool equivalent in the range of 1-30. The rules are set up as follows(also shown in the other thread):

1. The FIRST digit in the combo will ALWAYS have a "same pool equivalent" number between 1 and 10. The digits and their corresponding "same pool equivalent" would be as follows:

0 = 1

1 = 2

2 = 3

3 = 4

4 = 5

5 = 6

6 = 7

7 = 8

8 = 9

9 = 10

2. The SECOND digit in the combo will ALWAYS have a "same pool equivalent" number between 11 and 20. The digits and their corresponding "same pool equivalent" would be as follows:

0 = 11

1 = 12

2 = 13

3 = 14

4 = 15

5 = 16

6 = 17

7 = 18

8 = 19

9 = 20

2. The THIRD digit in the combo will ALWAYS have a "same pool equivalent" number between 21 and 30. The digits and their corresponding "same pool equivalent" would be as follows:

0 = 21

1 = 22

2 = 23

3 = 24

4 = 25

5 = 26

6 = 27

7 = 28

8 = 29

9 = 30

 

Here are some example conversions:

Pick 3 ComboSame Pool Equivalent Set
88009 19 21
89109 20 22
08901 19 30
60407 11 25
95110 16 22
89509 20 26
05301 16 24
80509 11 26
65707 16 28
50606 11 27

 

You'll see that the first same pool equivalent is always a number 1-10, the second 11-20, and the third 21-30. If you count all the possible combinations, they come out to exactly the same as Pick 3: 1000. However, because we are targeting box hits, box odds still apply: 1 in 166 for 3 different numbers and 1 in 333 for doubles. This is before any type of elmination or any other strategy is applied. The state I am currently targeting is Kentucky because they have 50 cent wagers and I happen to live very close to the border. Not to mention, the payout is simply better than Indiana's Daily 3. You can play 10 lines for $5. I have yet to actually play the sets I have posted because I want to test it out. If it starts doing pretty good, then I'll start putting money into it. However, if you live in Kentucky or are going through Kentucky and want to play the combo's I post, then by all means go 'head. I currently have 2 filters that are converted. I have many others, so I am still very early in the testing of this conversion. The system is implemented in a computer program that I wrote using the C++ programming language. I will use this thread to post combo's generated by the program.

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    pepper302's avatar - swordgirl
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    Posted: April 23, 2011, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

    Tks guru101

     

    ok i got this for illinois

     

    854= 9-16-25  so do i pick 3 from this?

      Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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      Posted: April 23, 2011, 6:34 pm - IP Logged

      Tks guru101

       

      ok i got this for illinois

       

      854= 9-16-25  so do i pick 3 from this?

      "9 16 25" is acting as a set in the "pretend" Pick 3/30 game. In other words, instead of just using 854 in the history of that game, "9 16 25" can be used as well if you're using a system that looks at sets instead of combo's. However, I myself am still storing past results in a file in their original Pick 3 form. It's a lot easier and faster for me to type "854" in a text editor than it is "09 16 25". I do all the conversions inside the program itself. There's a function that converts a Pick 3 digit into a same pool set number depending on which position it is for: 1, 2, or 3. Then there's another function which converts a same pool set number to a Pick 3 digit. Since we are targeting box hits, when the program tests a Pick 3 combo, it also needs to test it in it's other 5 forms. There's the 123 form, but then there's also the 132, 213, 231, 312, and 321 forms. If ANY of those forms pass, that set/combo passes. It doesn't matter if 854 itself doesn't pass. If any of it's other 5 forms pass, it's good. It's other 5 forms are 845, 458, 485, 548, and 584.

      This is where a "same pool" system comes in. It takes a combo, converts the first form into a same pool set of numbers, tests that set, if it passes, then it's good. If it doesn't pass it keeps testing each form until all the forms have been tested. If any of them pass, the combo passes automatically. If all 6 forms fail, that combo is no good and is discarded.

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        Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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        Posted: April 23, 2011, 7:04 pm - IP Logged

        Here's 10 lines for Kentucky's evening drawing tonight.

        8-0-4
        4-6-8
        8-9-0
        4-7-2
        8-7-9
        8-7-3
        0-3-9
        9-5-9
        2-0-7
        8-8-9

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          Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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          Posted: April 23, 2011, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

          Here's 10 lines for Kentucky's evening drawing tonight.

          8-0-4
          4-6-8
          8-9-0
          4-7-2
          8-7-9
          8-7-3
          0-3-9
          9-5-9
          2-0-7
          8-8-9

          230 was the winner. No hit.

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            Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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            Posted: April 24, 2011, 1:09 pm - IP Logged

            I'm pretty late today, but there's still 15 minutes before the drawing. Here's 10 lines for today's midday.

            1-8-3
            2-0-4
            8-4-4
            5-8-2
            8-0-1
            3-6-0
            2-8-7
            0-4-5
            6-5-2
            4-8-5

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              Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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              Posted: April 24, 2011, 1:46 pm - IP Logged

              I'm pretty late today, but there's still 15 minutes before the drawing. Here's 10 lines for today's midday.

              1-8-3
              2-0-4
              8-4-4
              5-8-2
              8-0-1
              3-6-0
              2-8-7
              0-4-5
              6-5-2
              4-8-5

              Son of a...I forgot there's no midday drawing on Sunday's. lol

              I'll let those 10 lines be for tomorrow's midday.

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                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                Posted: April 24, 2011, 1:56 pm - IP Logged

                You're not playing Ohio, Ohio has midday and evening drawings seven days a week.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                  Posted: April 24, 2011, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

                  You're not playing Ohio, Ohio has midday and evening drawings seven days a week.

                  I chose Kentucky because it has 50 cent wagers, which means I can play 10 lines for $5, plus it's only 5 minutes from my house, so if I wanna play, I can. lol

                  Here's 10 lines for Ohio's evening draw tonight though:

                  7-9-4
                  1-6-7
                  2-4-4
                  2-1-6
                  6-4-9
                  5-2-0
                  2-6-1
                  9-2-4
                  4-1-7
                  3-8-4

                  Good luck. Thumbs Up

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                    Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                    Posted: April 24, 2011, 6:24 pm - IP Logged

                    10 lines for Kentucky's evening:

                    2-7-3
                    8-7-2
                    5-3-4
                    5-6-9
                    0-4-8
                    0-7-2
                    0-6-5
                    3-8-3
                    0-3-6
                    1-4-7

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                      Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                      Posted: April 25, 2011, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

                      I'm pretty late today, but there's still 15 minutes before the drawing. Here's 10 lines for today's midday.

                      1-8-3
                      2-0-4
                      8-4-4
                      5-8-2
                      8-0-1
                      3-6-0
                      2-8-7
                      0-4-5
                      6-5-2
                      4-8-5

                      Monday's midday is 841. No hit on these 10 lines. We're still doing alright. I'll try to get around to converting another filter soon.

                      Gonna win.Big Smile

                        Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                        Posted: April 25, 2011, 2:43 pm - IP Logged

                        10 lines for Kentucky's evening:

                        2-7-3
                        8-7-2
                        5-3-4
                        5-6-9
                        0-4-8
                        0-7-2
                        0-6-5
                        3-8-3
                        0-3-6
                        1-4-7

                        785 on last night's evening. No hit on these 10 lines.

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                          Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                          Posted: April 25, 2011, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

                          Here's 10 lines for Monday's evening:

                          4-1-0
                          2-6-5
                          4-8-6
                          2-3-5
                          4-1-7
                          7-8-0
                          5-8-1
                          8-0-9
                          7-0-1
                          4-2-3

                          Gonna win.Big Smile

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                            I chose Kentucky because it has 50 cent wagers, which means I can play 10 lines for $5, plus it's only 5 minutes from my house, so if I wanna play, I can. lol

                            Here's 10 lines for Ohio's evening draw tonight though:

                            7-9-4
                            1-6-7
                            2-4-4
                            2-1-6
                            6-4-9
                            5-2-0
                            2-6-1
                            9-2-4
                            4-1-7
                            3-8-4

                            Good luck. Thumbs Up

                            Don't forget to mention a 50 cent box pays $50, doubles pay $100 and a 50 cent straight pays $300 in Ky. You caught quite a few 2 digit matches so you're getting closer.

                              Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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                              Posted: April 25, 2011, 10:30 pm - IP Logged

                              Don't forget to mention a 50 cent box pays $50, doubles pay $100 and a 50 cent straight pays $300 in Ky. You caught quite a few 2 digit matches so you're getting closer.

                              Thanks Stack. Hopefully after I add a few more filters we'll see box hits more often. I'm don't think it'll go so far as to hit get a hit every drawing, but perhaps get a box hit enough that coming out ahead is possible, which is the goal.

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