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Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:15 pm - IP Logged

Someone in the Florida p-3 forum gave me an idea tonight. The person wrote that 98% of the time a 0 or 1 will follow a double. I did a quick backtest from Jan 25, 2011 to the present and it was close to the percentage.

That in itself is a great observation. But that great idea made me think. I said to myself, can I go back to Jan 25, 2011 in Florida and see what numbers come up after a number like say 0? So after every combo that had a 0 in it, I'd tally what the next winning combo's numbers were individually, one for mid to mid, and the other for eve to eve. Then do the same thing with 1, then 2...and so on to 9.

I've only done the number 0 so far, just as a quick test to see If anything stood out, and it did.

Here are the results:

NUMBER 0:

Mid to mid                          Eve to eve

0= 3                                    0= 6

1= 10                                   1= 5

2= 2                                    2= 2

3= 10                                  3= 10.....also red....(for some reason the editor won't allow me to change colors with this number)

4= 7                                    4= 8

5= 5                                   5= 12

6=  5                                  6= 5

7= 8                                   7= 9

8= 6                                   8= 8

9= 11                                  9= 10

 

As you can see above, the 3and the 9 both have high counts that had a match with the mid to mid, and eve to eve draws. Unfortunately the number 5in the eve to eve has a 12 count but had no high match to the mid to mid. Despite my bad judgement, I'm going to include it anyways.

 

So we have 395...

Those 3 numbers will be the first position numbers If there is a 0 in a combo.

3

9

5

 Since we just did 0, now I want to do the same for the rest of the numbers 1-9 and have a follower chart made out of these stipulations. Once I have a full follower chart, I can do the second and third positions.

I'll get on it....

What do you think?

 


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    Posted: May 6, 2011, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

    Ok, I've decided to have a follower for each of mid to mid......and eve to eve... seperate

    So far I have the 0 and 1 done....

    NUMBER 0:

    Mid to mid:

    1

    3

    9

    Eve to eve:

    3

    5

    9

    ---------------------------------------------

    NUMBER 1:

    Mid to mid:

    0

    4

    6

    9

     

    Eve to eve:

    4

    5

    -----------------------------------------------------------


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      Posted: May 6, 2011, 11:02 pm - IP Logged

      NUMBER 2:

      Mid to mid:

      1

      4

      5

      7

       

      Eve to eve:

      1

      3

      8


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        Posted: May 6, 2011, 11:23 pm - IP Logged

        Gotta work tomorrow...will do the rest during breaks.

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          Posted: May 7, 2011, 4:46 am - IP Logged

          For what it's worth.  Around four years ago I used the GH software to make three 1/10 games A B and C and loaded them with 1,000 previous draws of Florida Pick-3 making one game history from the A or first position of the draws.  So 190 289 663 238 the first column or draw history would use 1,2,6,2 the B second position or column history would be 9,8,6,3 and the third  C position or column  would be 0,9,3,8.

          Using the D chart which is followers I found I had to use the top 5 picks from each to have any chance of winning often enough and that meant 5x5x5=125 straight plays.  Playing online at the higher rate I managed to break even not get rich with this method.   It was ok until a dry spell where I finally won the last play on what was left of the profits and gave it up. 

          I considered looking at what followed the first digit drawn as second drawn and third drawn within the drawing rather then what followed the digits of the previous draw in history, (like when a 9 is drawn first what digit is drawn most often as the second when a 9 is drawn, etc.) but I didn't have software to make it quick and easy.

          Maybe you will figure out something better or hit a hot session where this works better. 

          BobP

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            Posted: May 7, 2011, 5:17 am - IP Logged

            I have ran software a few years ago after packattack posted this about the 0 digit and the following doubles.

            Not quite sure if i can still dig up those stats (they are on LP though), but i recall that the stats were the same for each digit, the 0 did not stand out.

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              Posted: May 7, 2011, 8:13 am - IP Logged

              Hello Joker, you can see this simulçao = eliminate adjacent digits
                Sample = 459 gave adjacent 3 4 5 4 5 6 8 9 0
              Adjacent digits are anterior and posterior of each digit, to make the lotus also!
              Are adjacent 459 = 3,4,6,8,9,0, joker can see a simulation of a repetition of adjacent?

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                Posted: May 7, 2011, 10:00 am - IP Logged

                I have ran software a few years ago after packattack posted this about the 0 digit and the following doubles.

                Not quite sure if i can still dig up those stats (they are on LP though), but i recall that the stats were the same for each digit, the 0 did not stand out.

                Joker17=Pacattack05 LOL

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                  For what it's worth.  Around four years ago I used the GH software to make three 1/10 games A B and C and loaded them with 1,000 previous draws of Florida Pick-3 making one game history from the A or first position of the draws.  So 190 289 663 238 the first column or draw history would use 1,2,6,2 the B second position or column history would be 9,8,6,3 and the third  C position or column  would be 0,9,3,8.

                  Using the D chart which is followers I found I had to use the top 5 picks from each to have any chance of winning often enough and that meant 5x5x5=125 straight plays.  Playing online at the higher rate I managed to break even not get rich with this method.   It was ok until a dry spell where I finally won the last play on what was left of the profits and gave it up. 

                  I considered looking at what followed the first digit drawn as second drawn and third drawn within the drawing rather then what followed the digits of the previous draw in history, (like when a 9 is drawn first what digit is drawn most often as the second when a 9 is drawn, etc.) but I didn't have software to make it quick and easy.

                  Maybe you will figure out something better or hit a hot session where this works better. 

                  BobP

                  Thanx for the heads up. Maybe I'm just wasting my time I don't know, just thought it was interesting. However, you used a thousand draws and that may have affected the outcome. I may just do a 3 month study because a more recent trend might work better.

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                    Posted: May 7, 2011, 11:06 am - IP Logged

                    Joker17=Pacattack05 LOL

                    I had no clue, Raven62? lol

                    Anyway, the stats, i can't find them anymore, not even the code. Perhaps if i find some time anywhere in the near future...

                    (i even think it was cps10 that came up with it, not sure though What? )

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                      I had no clue, Raven62? lol

                      Anyway, the stats, i can't find them anymore, not even the code. Perhaps if i find some time anywhere in the near future...

                      (i even think it was cps10 that came up with it, not sure though What? )

                      Yup, that's me...lol

                      Anyways, the short test I did was back from Jan 25, 2011, and 0 and 1 did stand out big time.

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                        Posted: May 7, 2011, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

                        Someone in the Florida p-3 forum gave me an idea tonight. The person wrote that 98% of the time a 0 or 1 will follow a double. I did a quick backtest from Jan 25, 2011 to the present and it was close to the percentage.

                        That in itself is a great observation. But that great idea made me think. I said to myself, can I go back to Jan 25, 2011 in Florida and see what numbers come up after a number like say 0? So after every combo that had a 0 in it, I'd tally what the next winning combo's numbers were individually, one for mid to mid, and the other for eve to eve. Then do the same thing with 1, then 2...and so on to 9.

                        I've only done the number 0 so far, just as a quick test to see If anything stood out, and it did.

                        Here are the results:

                        NUMBER 0:

                        Mid to mid                          Eve to eve

                        0= 3                                    0= 6

                        1= 10                                   1= 5

                        2= 2                                    2= 2

                        3= 10                                  3= 10.....also red....(for some reason the editor won't allow me to change colors with this number)

                        4= 7                                    4= 8

                        5= 5                                   5= 12

                        6=  5                                  6= 5

                        7= 8                                   7= 9

                        8= 6                                   8= 8

                        9= 11                                  9= 10

                         

                        As you can see above, the 3and the 9 both have high counts that had a match with the mid to mid, and eve to eve draws. Unfortunately the number 5in the eve to eve has a 12 count but had no high match to the mid to mid. Despite my bad judgement, I'm going to include it anyways.

                         

                        So we have 395...

                        Those 3 numbers will be the first position numbers If there is a 0 in a combo.

                        3

                        9

                        5

                         Since we just did 0, now I want to do the same for the rest of the numbers 1-9 and have a follower chart made out of these stipulations. Once I have a full follower chart, I can do the second and third positions.

                        I'll get on it....

                        What do you think?

                         

                        Thanks Joker! Sometimes I think no one ever looks at my posts. Thank you for taking the time out to test and prove.


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                          Someone in the Florida p-3 forum gave me an idea tonight. The person wrote that 98% of the time a 0 or 1 will follow a double. I did a quick backtest from Jan 25, 2011 to the present and it was close to the percentage.

                          That in itself is a great observation. But that great idea made me think. I said to myself, can I go back to Jan 25, 2011 in Florida and see what numbers come up after a number like say 0? So after every combo that had a 0 in it, I'd tally what the next winning combo's numbers were individually, one for mid to mid, and the other for eve to eve. Then do the same thing with 1, then 2...and so on to 9.

                          I've only done the number 0 so far, just as a quick test to see If anything stood out, and it did.

                          Here are the results:

                          NUMBER 0:

                          Mid to mid                          Eve to eve

                          0= 3                                    0= 6

                          1= 10                                   1= 5

                          2= 2                                    2= 2

                          3= 10                                  3= 10.....also red....(for some reason the editor won't allow me to change colors with this number)

                          4= 7                                    4= 8

                          5= 5                                   5= 12

                          6=  5                                  6= 5

                          7= 8                                   7= 9

                          8= 6                                   8= 8

                          9= 11                                  9= 10

                           

                          As you can see above, the 3and the 9 both have high counts that had a match with the mid to mid, and eve to eve draws. Unfortunately the number 5in the eve to eve has a 12 count but had no high match to the mid to mid. Despite my bad judgement, I'm going to include it anyways.

                           

                          So we have 395...

                          Those 3 numbers will be the first position numbers If there is a 0 in a combo.

                          3

                          9

                          5

                           Since we just did 0, now I want to do the same for the rest of the numbers 1-9 and have a follower chart made out of these stipulations. Once I have a full follower chart, I can do the second and third positions.

                          I'll get on it....

                          What do you think?

                           

                          Well my Joker friend, all you are doing is finding the FOLLOWING Frequent numbers.

                           

                          I think you should focus more on the fact that a 0 and 1 comes after a double, and try to win the next double coming up.

                           

                          And what may I ask you will do when you get all the frequent following numbers? Lets say 067 come up in a draw, then you will have to wheel a maxium of  9 numbers, or less.

                          I think your pairs system is great. But this new adventure will it be as great as your pairs system?

                          Lets us know.


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                            I will be doing a back test on Texas, but only going back 36 games.

                            Which I think should be sufficient?

                             

                            We will see.

                             

                            Where are the Texans? I know millions play the pick 3 from Texas.

                            I guess all they do is read. SHY? maybe.


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                              I will be doing a back test on Texas, but only going back 36 games.

                              Which I think should be sufficient?

                               

                              We will see.

                               

                              Where are the Texans? I know millions play the pick 3 from Texas.

                              I guess all they do is read. SHY? maybe.

                              Ok, let's try this. You do Texas and I'll do Florida. Maybe a more recent trend is better. 36 consecutive draws back for Florida would be April 19, mid- 289.

                              0 Followers mid:               Eve:  

                               

                              1                                       3

                              7                                      7

                              3

                              --------------------------------------

                              1 Follower mid:                Eve: 

                              0                                     3

                              8                                     7

                                                                     5

                              ---------------------------------------

                              2 Follower mid:            Eve:

                              4                                 3

                              6                                 2

                              ----------------------------------------

                              3 Follower mid:            Eve:

                              9                                 3

                              0                                 7

                              1

                              -----------------------------------------

                              Will do more later.........