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bgonçalves
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How to Karnaugh maps of the table that makes converting gray code to binary code ????????
I'm not getting to the Karnaugh maps! is the next table below shows the conversion of gray code to binary: N G3 G2 G1 G0 B3 B2 B1 B0   0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0   3 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 5 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1   6 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0   7 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1   8 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0   9 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1   10 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0   11 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1   12 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0   13 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1   14 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0   15 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 The map of B1 and B0 in the handout are thus respectively: 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0   1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 And when I thus gives (B1 and B0, in that order): 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
I wonder what I did wrong, because the sequence of how to fill the map, in this case is not so? : 1 5 9 13   2 6 14 10   4 8 16 12   3 7 15 11


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    How to Karnaugh maps of the table that makes converting gray code to binary code ????????
    I'm not getting to the Karnaugh maps! is the next table below shows the conversion of gray code to binary: N G3 G2 G1 G0 B3 B2 B1 B0   0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0   3 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 5 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1   6 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0   7 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1   8 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0   9 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1   10 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0   11 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1   12 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0   13 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1   14 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0   15 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 The map of B1 and B0 in the handout are thus respectively: 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0   1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 And when I thus gives (B1 and B0, in that order): 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
    I wonder what I did wrong, because the sequence of how to fill the map, in this case is not so? : 1 5 9 13   2 6 14 10   4 8 16 12   3 7 15 11

    I believe the right sequence is:  3 7 11 13   4 8 10 16   8 18 22 24   3 9 11 17

    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0    15 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1     0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0    12 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1     0 1 e l e p h a n t     1 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 0    0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0

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      I believe the right sequence is:  3 7 11 13   4 8 10 16   8 18 22 24   3 9 11 17

      0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0    15 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1     0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0    12 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1     0 1 e l e p h a n t     1 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 0    0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0

      Hello, joker, ok, but you understand the karnaugl and gray code as well!
      How did you do?

      You could see these two optimization system, to create a table for conversion of peer pick3? thanks

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        Hello, joker, ok, but you understand the karnaugl and gray code as well!
        How did you do?

        You could see these two optimization system, to create a table for conversion of peer pick3? thanks

        Dr San ,you may be on to something.  Somebody could program with digital exclusive or's or maybe a ring counter.  The possibilities are endless.

         

        Or, if the result is high then input into a OR GATE.  If both low inputs into a AND GATE then  the output is low which means either go with another low combo or go the other direction. Thus use hhh for the next game 789 or 889 999.  THE USER WOULDN'T HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE GATES JUST INPUT PAIRS!  The result would tell whether to go high or low on the next draw.  A filter I presume!

         

         

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          Ok laker! But it has put in a matrix = 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 0 0 0 Optimization of karnaugl by position, finding the stress segment columns.

          1   1    1

          2   2    2

          3  3     3

          4    4    4

          5   5    5

          6    6   6

          7   7    7

          8    8

          9    9

          0  0    0

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            Ok laker! But it has put in a matrix = 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 9 0 0 0 Optimization of karnaugl by position, finding the stress segment columns.

            1   1    1

            2   2    2

            3  3     3

            4    4    4

            5   5    5

            6    6   6

            7   7    7

            8    8

            9    9

            0  0    0

            Perhaps a trial run with NM p3.

             

            614

            984

            396

            636

            071

            242

            752

            044

            911

            022

            869

            224

            842

            686

            386

            411

            344

            Tell me what results you get for this weeks draws. 

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              Perhaps a trial run with NM p3.

               

              614

              984

              396

              636

              071

              242

              752

              044

              911

              022

              869

              224

              842

              686

              386

              411

              344

              Tell me what results you get for this weeks draws. 

              Hiding Behind Computer

              Hello. BJECTIVES of the map karnaugl, take it and join segments (pieces of peers or a digit) to form pick3, this is what I am trying to see! after spending up to 6 results in the matrix segment and the left and and right diagonal pick3 from the last (output) in both lines, vertical or diagonal segments see! understand!

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                I believe the right sequence is:  3 7 11 13   4 8 10 16   8 18 22 24   3 9 11 17

                0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0    15 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1     0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0    12 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1     0 1 e l e p h a n t     1 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 0    0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0

                Yeah sure, but did you consider this?

                 

                Makes a lot more sense that way, doesn't it?


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                  Posted: August 21, 2011, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

                  Bingo !

                  Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                  For a lead role in a cage?

                   

                                                              From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"


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                    Yeah sure, but did you consider this?

                     

                    Makes a lot more sense that way, doesn't it?

                    Ha ha...but where's the elephant? The equation isn't complete without the elephant.....

                    elephant

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                      Ha ha...but where's the elephant? The equation isn't complete without the elephant.....

                      elephant

                      But isn't the Elephant supposed to be Pink or is that Purple?

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                        Ha ha...but where's the elephant? The equation isn't complete without the elephant.....

                        elephant

                        When I look at that elephant I'm reminded of one of Borat's lines concerning a part of his girlfriend's anatomy if I recall:

                         "It hangs like the sleeve of a wizard".


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

                        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                          Yeah sure, but did you consider this?

                           

                          Makes a lot more sense that way, doesn't it?

                          The truth table for an AND GATE.  I think maybe set of numbers by sums or root sums maybe meeting conditions can be used in logic.

                          Maybe inputs to a multiplexor or (a to d converter). 

                           

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                            I yelled Bingo, Where's my prize money.

                            Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                            For a lead role in a cage?

                             

                                                                        From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                              Posted: August 22, 2011, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

                              I yelled Bingo, Where's my prize money.

                              Hello Sulli, your money will come, but only when your subconscious discover how to how to connect the three columns to find peers to pick3. Because the matrix is like an electrical circuit lines has columns, the problem is how to join, because we have the option of three union The center of the left and right columns of the matrix!, I could not figure out this optimization, the cry of BINGO, maybe it was subconscious have seen something.