example 139 becomes delta 26. How? between 1 and 3 has 2 spaces, and between 3 and 9 there is 6 spaces. so we have 26

Easier to track. If we want to convert back, we will have 10 combos to play every possible 26.

Example 26= 028-139-240-351-462-573-684-795-806-917

Make a list of your past 30 days and put delta next to each on right, then track only two digit delta numbers. Much easier to predict than 3 digit combos.

California example for only 7 days, but remember to list 30 days deltas to get better picture of number behavior. I put mid and eve together.

california United States Member #69202 January 6, 2009 2645 Posts Offline

Posted: November 25, 2011, 12:43 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on November 24, 2011

example 139 becomes delta 26. How? between 1 and 3 has 2 spaces, and between 3 and 9 there is 6 spaces. so we have 26

Easier to track. If we want to convert back, we will have 10 combos to play every possible 26.

Example 26= 028-139-240-351-462-573-684-795-806-917

Make a list of your past 30 days and put delta next to each on right, then track only two digit delta numbers. Much easier to predict than 3 digit combos.

California example for only 7 days, but remember to list 30 days deltas to get better picture of number behavior. I put mid and eve together.

nov. 18-24

Delta

944- 50

106- 96

430- 97

943- 59

835- 52

091- 92

705- 35

646- 82

594- 45

379- 42

269- 43

391- 62

483- 45

139- 26

Much better to track two numbers instead of 3.

Nice system somer , only 12 boxed delta pairs ,3 box vtracked delta pairs for singles?

New Mexico United States Member #86099 January 29, 2010 11119 Posts Offline

Posted: November 25, 2011, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on November 24, 2011

example 139 becomes delta 26. How? between 1 and 3 has 2 spaces, and between 3 and 9 there is 6 spaces. so we have 26

Easier to track. If we want to convert back, we will have 10 combos to play every possible 26.

Example 26= 028-139-240-351-462-573-684-795-806-917

Make a list of your past 30 days and put delta next to each on right, then track only two digit delta numbers. Much easier to predict than 3 digit combos.

California example for only 7 days, but remember to list 30 days deltas to get better picture of number behavior. I put mid and eve together.

nov. 18-24

Delta

944- 50

106- 96

430- 97

943- 59

835- 52

091- 92

705- 35

646- 82

594- 45

379- 42

269- 43

391- 62

483- 45

139- 26

Much better to track two numbers instead of 3.

How are you coming up with these numbers for delta? 646-82 , 943 59 , 106-96 , 430 -97? And where did the 10 combos from 26 come from?

If i'm doing it your way then 594-45 if a change or delta of 4 from 5 to 9. and a difference of 5 from 9 to 4. But the others don't make sense or, maybe put in excel for quick calcs and backtesting.

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Posted: November 25, 2011, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on November 25, 2011

How are you coming up with these numbers for delta? 646-82 , 943 59 , 106-96 , 430 -97? And where did the 10 combos from 26 come from?

If i'm doing it your way then 594-45 if a change or delta of 4 from 5 to 9. and a difference of 5 from 9 to 4. But the others don't make sense or, maybe put in excel for quick calcs and backtesting.

646=82

you are always counting up. so from 6 to 4, it's really 6 to 14, that's 8 spots. You're always going forward or up as you may say. Then from 4 to 6 it's 2 spots. So it's 82

the 10 combos is what you get when you convert back to a regular combo, since we don't know what exact combo to play, we must cover all combos that have that attribute. so, 82 will always have the first number going up 8 spots, and the 2 will always have 2 spots going up. so let's do one together below.

we must cover 0-9 using those variables or attributes. Let's use the 82 as an example below.

start with 0 the first number is 8, so we must go up 8 spots 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 that 8 spots so the first 2 numbers are 08, thenthe next number is a 2, so we must go up another 2 spots from the 8, and that's 0 (or10), so we have 080. The next one is 1, so we go up 8 spots from the 1 which is 9, so we have 19, then we go up 2 spots from the 9 which is 1, so we have 191. next is 2, we go up 8 spots up to 0, so we have 20, then we go up 2 spots from 0 which is 2, we have 202.....keep doing this all the way till you come full circle, should give you 10 combos that have the 82 variables in them. No other combos will ever have those variables. below is the finished product for 82

080-191-202-313-424-535-646-757-868-979

here's another example using 35 delta

the first number is 3, so we start with 0 and go up three.....03....next number is five, so we go up five from the 3 which is 8 so we 038 for our first combo.

next we need to make a combo out of the number 1, so we count up 3 spots which is 4 (2-3-4) now we have 14, now we count up 5 from the four and we have (6-7-8-9-0) so now 140. do the rest 2-9 and you should have 10 combos like below.

35 delta= 038-149-250-361-472-583-694-705-816-927

I hope that helped.

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Posted: November 25, 2011, 12:47 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by threetwowin on November 25, 2011

thanks.. looks worth backtested

will see how it does in my state...

you're welcome. good luck,

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Posted: November 25, 2011, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by yiot on November 25, 2011

Nice system somer , only 12 boxed delta pairs ,3 box vtracked delta pairs for singles?

thank you but where do you get 12 pairs?

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Posted: November 25, 2011, 1:09 pm - IP Logged

here's an example of going from a combo to delta and then back.

example: 371...from 3 to 7( always counting up remember) is 4 spots, so our first delta number is 4. From 7 to 1 (0r 11) it's also 4 spots (8-9-10-11) so our second delta is also a 4

so a delta for the combo 371 is 44

now, to go back to a regular combo, you are asking why not the 371, why must we have 10 combos? That's because there are 10 combos that have that specific signature (4 up, and another 4 up) and since we are playing for a future draw, we have no way of telling which of those combos will show, IF WE CHOOSE THE RIGHT DELTA FROM OUR STUDYING OF LIST OF PAST DELTAS. iF WE GET THE CORRECT DELTA IN THE CORRECT ORDER, WE COVER EVERY COMBINATION, 10 IN ALL, AND GET A STRAIGHT WIN.

So basically, we've broken down the 1000 combinations to 100 pairs 00-99 which is not a big deal because I've seen systems that do similar things like that all the time, but the best part of this system is that it's easier to track than 3 numbers. The difference with this system and a system that tracks pairs for the upcoming draw, is that even if you think you know which pair will show up, you still have to play the pair in three different spots to guarantee a straight win, that's 30 bucks at 1 dollar a pair. front pair 38X....split pair 3X8, and back pair38X. Plus, you may have to spen another 30 bucks because the 38 may not come out in that order, it could show as 83, so you also have to cover X83....8X3......X83...

With the delta system, as long as you correctly predict which pair 00-99 will show next, your 10 combos will cover them.

I may show you the box version whcih is so much easier to predict because raraely do the list of historical delta number go above 4 or 5. but the payoff is lower too, and still have 10 combos.

Ok, I'll show it now.

First you have to make a list just like before, preferrably 30 days back mid and eve combined. I will only use 5 combos as an example from california below.

379

269

391

483

139---nov 24

Now we have to change them from lowest to highest. and put delta next to each combo below

Delta

379- 42

269- 43

139- 26

348- 14

139- 26

Now, this isn't a good example, but when you do a longer list, you will see that the deltas saty well below 4 most of the time. so it's like tracking only 00-40 most of the time, instead of 00-99 in the straight version. Much easier to track, but less pay. The box version would do well playing online because of the almost double payout of 150 bucks as opposed to the store payout of 80 bucks. And If you live in a parimutuel state it could be less.

Thanks, looks like there's a lot of info when I looked at your link. Seems I'm doing it slightly differently than the normal way of doing deltas. The original way ends up with 3 digits, so i don't see any benefit. In the conventional way, the first digit of the combo is kept, and the last two digits of the combo become deltas. But I wanted to reduce them as to make it easier to study patterns with less numbers.

Pittsburg, Ks United States Member #3382 January 17, 2004 80824 Posts Offline

Posted: November 30, 2011, 7:46 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on November 29, 2011

A great system that can be even better with excel. Maybe one of the excel experts can program this for a download.

Hi somer,

I noticed on the 944 you had 50. So when you have a double like 577 or 088 would the deltas be 570; 080 or would it look something like this using the 577

577=27? 017 137 247 357 467 etc?

thank you

God Bless America

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Posted: November 30, 2011, 10:39 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Wheeler on November 30, 2011

Hi somer,

I noticed on the 944 you had 50. So when you have a double like 577 or 088 would the deltas be 570; 080 or would it look something like this using the 577

577=27? 017 137 247 357 467 etc?

thank you

I noticed on the 944 you had 50.

Correct, using 944 as an example, from 9 to 4(14) is 5 steps up, and from 4 to 4 is zero steps up, so it's 50.

So when you have a double like 577 or 088 would the deltas be 570; 080 or would it look something like this using the 577

No, in my version of deltas, a delta will only have two numbers. 577 = 20 (from 5 to 7 is two steps up, and from 7 to 7 is zero steps up so it's 20.

088 = 80 (from 0 to 8 is eight steps up, and from 8 to 8 is zero steps up, so it's 80.

080 = 82 (from 0 to 8 is eight steps up, and from 8 to 0 (10 ) is two steps up, so it's 82.

577=27? 017 137 247 357 467 etc?

The above I don't understand. You can only make combos out of deltas. If you want to change a delta back to a regular combo, we will have to play 10 combos from that delta to cover all possible ways that delta can come out in a combo. So start with 0 to and work your way up to 9 with example below.

You may ask how I got 031 using the 38 delta. I will tell you. Remember you always start with 0, so from 0 up 3 spots is 3. from 3 up 8 spots is eleven, or 1, so it's 031. Now, we write the number 1, and from the number one up three spots is 4 (see the 142 above?) next, from the 4 up 8 spots is 12 or (2), so ourcombo is 142....and so on, all the way to 9.

Hope that explains it. If you have trouble, best thing is to read from the beginning.

BOSTON United States Member #48 September 9, 2001 3589 Posts Offline

Posted: November 30, 2011, 11:05 am - IP Logged

c'mon excel pros let do it. so much simpler using it. thanks

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Posted: November 30, 2011, 11:12 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by retxx on November 30, 2011

c'mon excel pros let do it. so much simpler using it. thanks

I don't understand why people ask for excel. It takes 30 seconds to convert deltas back to combos. Once you make a list of combos and deltas to the right of the combos for 30 days or more, it takes 30 seconds to change a delta to ten combos.