Ct. Powerball lottery winners signed affidavit swearing they are only members of trust

Dec 7, 2011, 9:11 am (33 comments)

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The trust fund established by three Greenwich men who claimed the $254 million Powerball prize last month will expire in one year and the money will then go into a second trust, according to a copy of the trust agreement obtained by local media.

The three men signed an affidavit the day after a press conference announcing the Putnam Avenue Family Trust as the winner, swearing that the second trust — named the West Putnam Avenue Trust — has no silent partners and that no person ineligible to win the lottery is a member of the West Putnam Avenue Trust.

Timothy Davidson, Brandon Lacoff and Greg Sizemore formed the Putnam Avenue Family Trust on Nov. 22, according to documents provided to the Courant through a Freedom of Information request.

The records show that Davidson purchased the winning ticket at a Stamford gas station a day before the drawing. When the three men showed up at lottery headquarters on Nov. 28 to collect their winnings, Davidson first had to sign a document relinquishing his rights to the winning ticket to the Putnam Avenue Family Trust. A lump sum of $103.58 million was paid out after taxes.

Almost immediately after the trust was announced as the winner, rumors circulated that the three men were a front for a party that wanted to remain anonymous.

The day following the press conference, as speculation increased, attorney Gregory J. Pond e-mailed lottery officials a copy of the affidavit for review and offering to have the three winners sign it.

The affidavit states "no one other than one or more of the following individuals are the lifetime beneficiaries of principal or income of the West Putnam Avenue Trust."

It ends "this affidavit is made to the Connecticut Lottery Corporation with the understanding that it is relying thereon in determining that no ineligible person, as defined under all applicable law, rules and/or regulations, is a lifetime beneficiary or principal or income of said trust."

Computer records from the Stamford store show the winning ticket was purchased at 7:20 p.m. on Nov 1.

The three money managers, who work at Belpoint Asset Management, denied rumors that surfaced almost immediately after they claimed the money that they were a front for an unknown person who actually had won the lottery but did not want their name to become public.

The trust hired the powerful New York public relations firm Rubenstein Associates, denied there was a silent partner and pledged to use some of the money they had won for charitable purposes. On Sunday, it announced it was donating $1 million to four charities that work with war veterans.

Lottery officials have said that it is not unusual for winners to set up a trust for their lottery winnings and that they consider the three men legitimate winners.

Hartford Courant

Comments

PERDUE

Why is there such a big deal over this jackpot?

It boggles the mind. Let these folks enjoy their winnings!!

If this is what happens when you win a jackpot, then I'll be happy to win on the lower tiers on a regular basis.

This is beyond stupid!!!

mcginnin56

Let these guy's enjoy their limelight. They won, let them have fun. There are so many swirling conspiracy theories about an anonymous winner, did they give enough to charitable causes, are they a front??? Blah, blah, blah.....Puke

Let it go, we all (hopefully) will have our big day, you wouldn't want someone raining on your parade.Wink

CLETU$

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Dec 7, 2011

Let these guy's enjoy their limelight. They won, let them have fun. There are so many swirling conspiracy theories about an anonymous winner, did they give enough to charitable causes, are they a front??? Blah, blah, blah.....Puke

Let it go, we all (hopefully) will have our big day, you wouldn't want someone raining on your parade.Wink

I Agree! Give it a rest.

Starr920

Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on Dec 7, 2011

Why is there such a big deal over this jackpot?

It boggles the mind. Let these folks enjoy their winnings!!

If this is what happens when you win a jackpot, then I'll be happy to win on the lower tiers on a regular basis.

This is beyond stupid!!!

The trust hired the powerful New York public relations firm Rubenstein Associates, denied there was a silent partner and pledged to use some of the money they had won for charitable purposes. On Sunday, it announced it was donating $1 million to four charities that work with war veterans.


Pretty much says it all right there - issuing press releases through PR firm to clear their namesWink

Mega Millions is now $100 million - as soon as someone hits, the media will finally drop the Putnam Avenue Trust and move on to the next story. 


KSplayer's avatarKSplayer

Quote: Originally posted by Starr920 on Dec 7, 2011

The trust hired the powerful New York public relations firm Rubenstein Associates, denied there was a silent partner and pledged to use some of the money they had won for charitable purposes. On Sunday, it announced it was donating $1 million to four charities that work with war veterans.


Pretty much says it all right there - issuing press releases through PR firm to clear their namesWink

Mega Millions is now $100 million - as soon as someone hits, the media will finally drop the Putnam Avenue Trust and move on to the next story. 


We were just talking about this the other day at my husbands company Christmas Party and someone asked what we would do if we won 100 million dollar jackpot maybe it is a sign of good things to come lol. Hope these people enjoy their winnings i know if it was me i would!

faber98

still not buying it. they just claimed that no one ineligible to win it didn't. doesn't  mean they aren't covering for someone eligible. having trouble with the 1.00 ticket split 3 ways. makes no sense at all. don't care but still something's rotten in denmark on this one.

winwi5

These guys collected this money for one of their investors they are still covering up their is no way that 3 people purchase 1 lottery ticket impossible.

When 3 or more people play the lottery they purchase anywhere from 10-100 tickets together now that would sound believable.

golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Hi Faber,

I agree with you something wrong here. The three way split of $1.00 is suspect plus when someone wants to protect their privacy, they usually hire an attorney and form a trust and then stay out of the press conference with the Lottery Commission.

These guys formed the trust, hired the attorney spokesperson and then showed up at the press conference and refused to answer questions. Why show up then? Did they want to promote their investment company?

Here is what I believe: They claimed the money for someone who doesn't want the IRS and Lottery Commission to know who he is. The three amigos now own all the money but have made a deal with the real winner to keep half for themselves and to ship the other half to the real winner in an off shore account.

However, this is a risky plan for the real winner because if the 3 amigos decide to keep all the money, the only way for the real winner to get it back would be to go to court and prove that the 3 amigos violated the written agreement they had. If that happens, we (including the IRS and Lottery Commission) would know the real winner behind the 3 amigos. The the real winner in this scenario would be in a very vulernable position.

Unless the real winner is a gangster and has lots of guns! Wink

Anyway, what do you think of my theory?

Thanks, Golfer

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Quote: Originally posted by winwi5 on Dec 7, 2011

These guys collected this money for one of their investors they are still covering up their is no way that 3 people purchase 1 lottery ticket impossible.

When 3 or more people play the lottery they purchase anywhere from 10-100 tickets together now that would sound believable.

I believe it is only these three winners [congratulations, by the way].  It is a whimsical, doable idea ... one $.33, one $.33, and one $.34 gamble on rotation. 

A great way for three responsible people, who also want to be gamblers, to ALWAYS have enough money to play each large, multi-million dollar net drawing; without a spouse getting, understandibly, upset with greater odds of losing each draw and taking $$$ away from the family's savings or groceries monies.

Lurking

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by winwi5 on Dec 7, 2011

These guys collected this money for one of their investors they are still covering up their is no way that 3 people purchase 1 lottery ticket impossible.

When 3 or more people play the lottery they purchase anywhere from 10-100 tickets together now that would sound believable.

Ok......, so if these guys are responsible for a MEGA COVERUPwhy don't we just contract the FBI, NCIS, CIA and all local, state and federal authorities to bring these <snip>s  to justice???

Do I hear death penalty Angry??? Forget about our economy in the toilet, global wars, starvation, human rights violations, global warming, depletion of our natural resources....... these guys had the GALL, to win powerball What?

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hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

UUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHH I swear a few of you people R enough to drive to the rest of us to drinking moonshine

TheRightPrice

Quote: Originally posted by PERDUE on Dec 7, 2011

Why is there such a big deal over this jackpot?

It boggles the mind. Let these folks enjoy their winnings!!

If this is what happens when you win a jackpot, then I'll be happy to win on the lower tiers on a regular basis.

This is beyond stupid!!!

I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!

T12U

Looks like a job for Seal Team 6 to raid their compound and obtain evidence of their cover up. Seriously though, who cares if they are trying to cover up. Someone won, it was claimed, and jackpot resets. End of story. And also to people who are saying how can they split a one dollar ticket.. well if you had an agreement with others to take turn buying the lotto, you can split the winnings into however many you please, even if it's just a dollar. This is what they call fractions people. 

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

A few people who seem to be fixated on the "single one dollar ticket" aspect of this win by three people are apparently still missing (ignoring?) the point that they may have purchased multiple "single one dollar tickets."

But I'm not going to say a word about it.

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by T12U on Dec 7, 2011

Looks like a job for Seal Team 6 to raid their compound and obtain evidence of their cover up. Seriously though, who cares if they are trying to cover up. Someone won, it was claimed, and jackpot resets. End of story. And also to people who are saying how can they split a one dollar ticket.. well if you had an agreement with others to take turn buying the lotto, you can split the winnings into however many you please, even if it's just a dollar. This is what they call fractions people. 

I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

GiveFive's avatarGiveFive

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on Dec 7, 2011

still not buying it. they just claimed that no one ineligible to win it didn't. doesn't  mean they aren't covering for someone eligible. having trouble with the 1.00 ticket split 3 ways. makes no sense at all. don't care but still something's rotten in denmark on this one.

I agree.

Here's another "fishy" part of the whole thing.  The rumours surfaced after a guy named Gladstone, who is a personal friend of one of the three winners, and who also rents them the office space their firm occupys, immediately blabed to the press that it was not them who really won.  Why would he do that????  What's his motivation for doing such a thing????  He couldnt gain anything by doing it.  Why would a guy who is supposedly a friend make up a story like that, and then run to the newspapers with it????

They did all the right things that somebody who won a multi-million dollar jackpot and wants to remain anonymous would do.  Waited a while before claiming the money, hired a lawyer, set up a trust fund etc.  And then they appear in public by showing up at the press conference???  I dont get that at all.  And at that press conference they dont want to say much??? If that's the case they should have stayed home and let their lawyer handle it all.

I dont care either, and it's their money now.  They can darn well do with it as they please. But the whole thing still smells fishy to me.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by gocart1 on Dec 7, 2011

I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

totally agree,but are you still the average joe after you win ?

what i'm tryin to say is does the average joe ever win ?

and does he stay average ? Wink

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by gocart1 on Dec 7, 2011

I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Dec 7, 2011

You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

is it a c6?

this sounds crazy and is.

i just remembered my 78 vet,

and doing 140 mph on the g.s.p. going south

 where it crosses over the egg harbor.

still scares me to think i did it.

don't know what got in to me.

esp. knowing there might be a trooper on the cape may side of the bridge.

faber98

some of you are right that we shouldn't care if they are covering for someone who has irs problems or whatever or not. it's just that the lengths they are going to explain this seems fishy. and i don't care no one splits a 1.00 ticket 3 ways (i believe ridge that only 1 was bought) especially these rich guys would at least throw in 5.00 min apiece and would have purchased 3 tickets with 5 lines each.(not single separate tickets at a gas station) what would be their motivation to buy single tickets. the real winner must really trust these guys as they could make off with whole booty seemingly.

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

This is nobody's business, but the winner's !!!

Bash

grwurston's avatargrwurston

Well, maybe they normally buy ten tickets and bought 9 at one store and the 10th at another. Maybe they already had their their tickets and the guy decided to buy one more on a hunch. I don't buy all my tickets at the same store all the time. Sometimes I'll go to different stores the same day.

I think the only reason there is such a big to-do about all this is because, being money managers they took their time getting everything in order, instead of rushing down to cash the ticket 10 minutes after the drawing like some people would. And the lottery expects people to do.

rundown99's avatarrundown99

This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

KSplayer's avatarKSplayer

Quote: Originally posted by rundown99 on Dec 8, 2011

This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

I Agree!

 

That is one thing that is good about living in Kansas you can stay anonymous!

golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Quote: Originally posted by rundown99 on Dec 8, 2011

This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

Hey rundown,

Just my opionion but these 3 guys would have been anonymous if they didn't show up at the press conference. The only entity who would have known their identity would be the IRS and the Lottery Commission. At least that is what I read somewhere online.

Even if you claim the money under a trust they'd be the only ones to know the true identity. I read they do a social security number sweep to see if you owe child support or income taxes. Then they'll deduct that amount from your winnings. Have you heard that before?

Golfer

joshuacloak's avatarjoshuacloak

Quote: Originally posted by rundown99 on Dec 8, 2011

This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

rundown you can remain anonymous using the trust

these 3 just came out and told   the world

ofc for prioritizing purposes of their business for advertisement

via announcing who they are and what their businesses yes

the fact is these people use a trust with in a trust that is one of the most brilliant ways to hide whoever the real winners are

 

the lottery itself only has access to the first trust papers

as when you claim with the trust the lottery gets to see the trust papers make sure it's real trust claiming

 

the second trust is even so a freedom of information act could not find out the real beneficiaries are because the government does not have access to the second trust

the real beneficiaries are in the second trust even the third trust if there is one


they can swear up and down left and right all they want the fact is I believe they had earlier orders by the real winner to decoy themselves as the real winners

they are just following orders

if they wish to hide who they are great fantastic job well done, I just don't like them trying to you know have these clowns try to pass off as the the real winners when I know for fact they're full of it

 actually try to fool anybody at all  please future winners please try to fake it better.

 

Three Musketeers, the Three Stooges that these people are trying to claim they're the only winners

now these people had two different trust set up

the first trust is just a decoy the money goes in second trust

and it's going to take a court order ever get the real winners names as no one has access to the second trust

and there's no way in hell that is going to happen

mostly because it's none of our business or anyone else's business who the real winners are

but when you're trying to tell me  flat out that you're the only winners when I know for Everything you have done is textbook trust  defense to prevent the real winner from being found out by anyone

let's take a close look at the facts

these 3 Money managers waited over three weeks pretty much almost a month to claim

the problem with that is after two weeks you were losing bank interest that is money you could have been earning by taking all the cash and having it sit basically in some banks account collecting money for your

instead they choose to wait over two weeks thereby losing money they could have been earning interest with

 

The fact is these people have from the very start not been a bright fact is there just advertising for their business that is likely went public claiming they are the three winners in their managing the money

now if you're the only three real winners in you're going to use a trust within a  other trust thereby making it near impossible for anyone but your lawyer your bank and yourselves to know who you are

they had the perfect defense,time I know we could ever the first trust the sole trustee of the first trust could just another lawyer the second trust we got the money and in the second trust can be managed by the money managers and then a third trust could be created to give it to whoever the hell else you want

 

the fact is logic to say these guys are nothing but the freaking front for the real winner they wanted to advertise their business exactly what they did 

however people went and leaked the story and everyone in that area of Connecticut knows it's complete nonsense that therapy only three winners for cry out  loud

their jobs are to manage other people's money for them large amounts .

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Dec 7, 2011

is it a c6?

this sounds crazy and is.

i just remembered my 78 vet,

and doing 140 mph on the g.s.p. going south

 where it crosses over the egg harbor.

still scares me to think i did it.

don't know what got in to me.

esp. knowing there might be a trooper on the cape may side of the bridge.

No, it's a C5.  I'm actually not that big a fan of the C6 design - I much prefer the "sexier" C5.

It's easy to get up to high speeds very quickly in a Vette, because they're super-stable, even at twice the speed limit.

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Dec 7, 2011

You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

Thanks buddy

golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on Dec 7, 2011

I agree.

Here's another "fishy" part of the whole thing.  The rumours surfaced after a guy named Gladstone, who is a personal friend of one of the three winners, and who also rents them the office space their firm occupys, immediately blabed to the press that it was not them who really won.  Why would he do that????  What's his motivation for doing such a thing????  He couldnt gain anything by doing it.  Why would a guy who is supposedly a friend make up a story like that, and then run to the newspapers with it????

They did all the right things that somebody who won a multi-million dollar jackpot and wants to remain anonymous would do.  Waited a while before claiming the money, hired a lawyer, set up a trust fund etc.  And then they appear in public by showing up at the press conference???  I dont get that at all.  And at that press conference they dont want to say much??? If that's the case they should have stayed home and let their lawyer handle it all.

I dont care either, and it's their money now.  They can darn well do with it as they please. But the whole thing still smells fishy to me.

Hi GiveFive,

Your comments make the most sense to me. I don't know why the others can't feel it. Why would the landlord lie? He's got nothing to gain.

Nothing wrong with anonyminty (we all know how to do that) but lying and dishonesty feels wrong. That is why this story has legs. I'm not saying they broke the law (they didn't) but....it stinks.

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

"Why would the landlord lie? He's got nothing to gain."

It got him his 15 minutes of fame, and people lie for a lot less than that. Why would one of the partners have told the landlord? What would they gain by doing that?

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Dec 7, 2011

This is nobody's business, but the winner's !!!

Bash

I Agree!

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Dec 10, 2011

"Why would the landlord lie? He's got nothing to gain."

It got him his 15 minutes of fame, and people lie for a lot less than that. Why would one of the partners have told the landlord? What would they gain by doing that?

Some people just love to be in the spotlight..  Just like the first two guys that said then lost their ticket....And then there's the WINNER  IN THE BACKROUND

louise black

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Dec 10, 2011

"Why would the landlord lie? He's got nothing to gain."

It got him his 15 minutes of fame, and people lie for a lot less than that. Why would one of the partners have told the landlord? What would they gain by doing that?

I Agree!There is something just not right with this story,like I said before we may not ever know and maybe we will know if we live long enough it will all come out in the wash . I hope no one get hurt over it ,it's a large sum of money really to be lying about,well good wishes and see you in the news in the years to come.Yes Nod

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