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Posted: December 23, 2011, 3:04 am - IP Logged

I have noticed when talking about people who win the lottery, and lose it all there seems to be alot of hateful things that are said.  My question is why??? When it comes to this subject it's always stated, "there is no way this will happen to me"  alot of horrible things are said about these people, all because they won the lottery, and we believe that to lose this money is stupid??  When I read these nasty comments, it makes me laugh, cause the emotions over money that is not even yours..can you imagine if the money was yours, the emotions from all that know you, not to mention your own emotions!!  The judgemental attitude will come back to bite you!!  Never say never..unless you have walked in the shoes.....The lack of empathy shows just how much "the love of money"  can do to mankind.  Lottery winners are still human, with everyday problems, if not more...Money doesn't make happiness, sure helps with comfort, but lets be real, money can make people do alot of evil things.  Just a thought about the person not the  lottery winner!

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    nice sentiment, at this time of year to.

    id like to wish any winners in the new year to survive the experience with their family, life, mind and hapiness intact.

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      TDS12,

      True, lottery winners are still human, BUT.......just do a search here at LP for Jack Whitaker (West Virginia, black cowboy hat, record MM jackpot at the time), or David Lee Edwards (pretty sure that's his name).

      Whitaker, already welathy from his construction business, would go to strip clubs while it was known he had hundreds of thousands of dollars cash in the trunk of his car. He got rolled a few times. Big surprise. So yeah, we can call that stupid. Flat out stupid.

      The David Lee guy won a jackpot, took an entourage to Vegas, then bought a home in Florida, a condo or spmething, and lost it because he didn't pay his association fees, among other stunts.

      If I remember right, he himself was quoted as saying, "You can't fix stupid."

      Of course, those two are extreme cases, but depending on who you read 50% of jackpot winners go broke withing five years and at that time are in worse financial shape than they were before winning the jackpot.

      There was a woman in New Jersey who won a jackpot two or three times and is now living in a rented trailer, on social security and nothing else.

      Personally I think people just literally just "freak out" on coming into that kind of money and can't handle it.

      There was one winner interviewed on one of the early Lottery programs on TLC and he said, "All I knew was I had millions, I kept buying stuff and then one day I didn't have the millions."

      Another said that he gave gifts of $1 million to more than a few people.....and every single one of them came back asking for more. They blew theirs and wanted more of his.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        I have noticed when talking about people who win the lottery, and lose it all there seems to be alot of hateful things that are said.  My question is why??? When it comes to this subject it's always stated, "there is no way this will happen to me"  alot of horrible things are said about these people, all because they won the lottery, and we believe that to lose this money is stupid??  When I read these nasty comments, it makes me laugh, cause the emotions over money that is not even yours..can you imagine if the money was yours, the emotions from all that know you, not to mention your own emotions!!  The judgemental attitude will come back to bite you!!  Never say never..unless you have walked in the shoes.....The lack of empathy shows just how much "the love of money"  can do to mankind.  Lottery winners are still human, with everyday problems, if not more...Money doesn't make happiness, sure helps with comfort, but lets be real, money can make people do alot of evil things.  Just a thought about the person not the  lottery winner!

        it's not emotions but facts as far as I'm concerned. if they ruin a once in a lifetime chance, then that's their own stupidity. i know that i wouldn't go on a spending spree and wipe out everything i won, and that's a fact. as a person who works hard for my money, i appreciate and respect the value of a dollar.

        i don't have to walk in their shoes. everyone is different, and no one can lump everyone into one pot, so i can say the same about your comments because you don't know me, and how i would choose to spend it.

        it's not a lack of empathy, it's stating facts. if you screwed up, you screwed up. what do you want people to say?.....AWWWWW, that poor person?

        money would make me happy. that's also another statement that is true, but I see a lot of statements on the boards saying it wouldn't make me happy. again, people don't know me, how can they be sure? there is plenty of rich people that are happy. no one talks about them.

        money can make people do a lot of evil things, but more crimes are commited by people who are not rich.

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          Posted: December 23, 2011, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

          Thank you Somer for being that shining example of what TDS was speaking of. May you some day gain a level of sensibility and compassion for people in general be they rich poor or otherwise. We are but here for a brief moment and its a choice how we choose to speak of  others, it reflects more so about oneself....

          TDS wasnt directing it at a particular person  so much as an attitude....

          TDS, Thank you much for sharing a glaring flaw that can be read on the forums...luckily there are some here that genuinely care . I liked your thoughts.

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            I think it all boils down to choices and everyone has a choice to make and some choose poorly while others do not.  So if you know your going to choose badly take the annuity and if you can handle cash in large amounts then take the cash.  But bottom line is choose wisely because it is your money.-weshar75

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              Thank you Somer for being that shining example of what TDS was speaking of. May you some day gain a level of sensibility and compassion for people in general be they rich poor or otherwise. We are but here for a brief moment and its a choice how we choose to speak of  others, it reflects more so about oneself....

              TDS wasnt directing it at a particular person  so much as an attitude....

              TDS, Thank you much for sharing a glaring flaw that can be read on the forums...luckily there are some here that genuinely care . I liked your thoughts.

              i don't have compassion for idiots who throw away their money gained from something like a once in a lifetime opportunity such as winning a big JP. that's just plain stupidity.

              thank you for showing me how you think just like TDS. now I know how you think too.

               i don't pity stupidity, sorry.

              now, the people I do have compassion for are the people who's life savings are stolen by greedy self centered idiots who don't realize how much damage they've caused. but people who lose their money because they're stupid, i have no compassion for. it's like someone who puts their hands over a flame and keeps it there despite the pain, then complains about his serious burns, that's just plain stupid.

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                I think you are still missing the whole point!  No one knows how or why a person loses their money...yes it is a shame that people aren't smart enough to realize that this money can be gone quick.  Your compassion goes out to people who have their life savings stolen, but what about the winner who has family members, friends, and strangers all turn on them??  Because a person is blessed with a win, does that mean they deserve to have their lives threatened, and even worse someone murder them because they want and think they deserve it.  When I said money can make people do evil things, I am not saying Rich or Poor... because we all bleed the same, with or without money!!  I don't say pity that person, I said empathy, plain and simple.  Why should a person who blows lottery winnings be treated any different than they were before they won??  Bet no one cared how they spent the money then, but as soon as someone finds out that this person has no money left and won a lottery, the name calling and ridicule begins..Does that really sound fair.  If you someday win, hope it all works out for ya, but chances are no matter how smart you think you are, it won't be as easy as you think.  Let me say, I do think their are some very stupid things that some winners do, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else has the right to treat them like they are dirt.  If you think the people around you wouldn't act a certain way, wouldn't think you owed them something, how do you know?  I guess you won't know until it happens to you!

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                  I think you are still missing the whole point!  No one knows how or why a person loses their money...yes it is a shame that people aren't smart enough to realize that this money can be gone quick.  Your compassion goes out to people who have their life savings stolen, but what about the winner who has family members, friends, and strangers all turn on them??  Because a person is blessed with a win, does that mean they deserve to have their lives threatened, and even worse someone murder them because they want and think they deserve it.  When I said money can make people do evil things, I am not saying Rich or Poor... because we all bleed the same, with or without money!!  I don't say pity that person, I said empathy, plain and simple.  Why should a person who blows lottery winnings be treated any different than they were before they won??  Bet no one cared how they spent the money then, but as soon as someone finds out that this person has no money left and won a lottery, the name calling and ridicule begins..Does that really sound fair.  If you someday win, hope it all works out for ya, but chances are no matter how smart you think you are, it won't be as easy as you think.  Let me say, I do think their are some very stupid things that some winners do, but that doesn't mean I or anyone else has the right to treat them like they are dirt.  If you think the people around you wouldn't act a certain way, wouldn't think you owed them something, how do you know?  I guess you won't know until it happens to you!

                  I think you are still missing the whole point!  No one knows how or why a person loses their money

                  yes I do, it's called not having common sense, and being stupid.

                   

                  Your compassion goes out to people who have their life savings stolen, but what about the winner who has family members, friends, and strangers all turn on them?? 

                  let me tell you something, i'd take those problems anyday over having to work for a living the rest of my life. awwww, poor person having to deal with unruly people around them. please please please let me be in that situation. id tell them to all go to heck. that's how you do it, and then have anyone that comes to my property and harrases me have them arrested. simple. or move to a gated community. there are countless ways to deal with this. again, it's stupidity that makes them endure it and not deal with it.

                   

                   Why should a person who blows lottery winnings be treated any different than they were before they won??  Bet no one cared how they spent the money then, but as soon as someone finds out that this person has no money left and won a lottery, the name calling and ridicule begins..Does that really sound fair

                  i can't speak for the unjust cruelty done by others than me, but it comes with the territory. if you don't think you can handle the pressure of a win, YOU SHOULDN'T PLAY AT ALL THEN. why whine and complain when you know ahead of time that there would be good chance of people nagging you for money. deal with it or don't play. this is what i mean about being stupid. and as far as it not being fair. let me give you a news flash honey...LIFE ISN'T FAIR. if you knew that already you would've never made this post. i guess you want the world to be in la la land, everyone holding hands and singing cumbaya, but it doesn't work that way in the real world. you have to be tougher than the next guy especially when you have the responisibility for receiving all that money at once. it's a eat, or be eaten world.

                  If you someday win, hope it all works out for ya, but chances are no matter how smart you think you are, it won't be as easy as you think. 

                  thanks, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to have common sense. I'm not that smart, but I do have plenty of common sense. and again, i know it won't be easy at first, but who cares? I'd rather have those problems because i can handle them better than having to deal with a boss. i have much more power in so many avenues of protection than i will ever have now. and if I end up losing all of my money (which won't happen) then it's all my fault, and expect no compassion from anyone.

                  i think the anger, name calling, and resentment from those people comes in the form "what I could've done with that money" mentality. those people envision themselves taking better care of the money than the idiot who lost it all, so there's some anger and resentment, knowing they might have done better. This guy pissed it all away, when here I am broke and could have done so much good for my family and close friends.

                  I'm not condoning name calling or whatever mean people do, my whole point is that no matter what angle you look at this, for the most part it was because of a chain of bad decisions that led them to that path. one bad decision, even two bad decisions, i can accept because you are in a new territory, but when you make one, two, then three, then four, five, six, seven, and more consecutive bad decisions, then to me that is being irresponsible and stupid. sorry. that's life, either wise up or get run over. we don't live in utopia my friend. butch it up or get what's coming.

                  I'm sure there is a very small percentage of winners who's demise wasn't their fault, but from an unfortunate set of circumstances. I'm not speaking of those people, cause most of the reasons is from being stupid.

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                    I have noticed when talking about people who win the lottery, and lose it all there seems to be alot of hateful things that are said.  My question is why??? When it comes to this subject it's always stated, "there is no way this will happen to me"  alot of horrible things are said about these people, all because they won the lottery, and we believe that to lose this money is stupid??  When I read these nasty comments, it makes me laugh, cause the emotions over money that is not even yours..can you imagine if the money was yours, the emotions from all that know you, not to mention your own emotions!!  The judgemental attitude will come back to bite you!!  Never say never..unless you have walked in the shoes.....The lack of empathy shows just how much "the love of money"  can do to mankind.  Lottery winners are still human, with everyday problems, if not more...Money doesn't make happiness, sure helps with comfort, but lets be real, money can make people do alot of evil things.  Just a thought about the person not the  lottery winner!

                    Winners who lose it ALL are just human like me r

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                            A newspaper around here interviewed a Powerball winner once and asked what they were planning to do in order to not go broke as some lottery winners do.  The winner replied "Continue to live as I did when I was poor."  That was an excellent answer.  This winner received $42,000,000 after taxes, and if you think about it, that's really not too much in the grand scheme of things.

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                              A newspaper around here interviewed a Powerball winner once and asked what they were planning to do in order to not go broke as some lottery winners do.  The winner replied "Continue to live as I did when I was poor."  That was an excellent answer.  This winner received $42,000,000 after taxes, and if you think about it, that's really not too much in the grand scheme of things.

                              42 Million cash and he's gonna continue living like he's poor?

                              What kinda schmuck is this guy?

                              What the hell was he playing Powerball for if he wants to live like he's poor anyway?

                              What a schmuck.


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

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