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I have read most of the topics here regarding about Ken Silver's Silver Lotto System and found out that most of the comments are quite negative towards it. But when I searched about it, practically 98% of the site reviews I found all say it really does work. So the main thing is, does it work? I mean:
- Most of you might say the testimonials on his site are fake, but they are through clickbank right? So I don't think they are fake...
- You can request for a refund if it doesn't work for u within 2 months after you purchased, even if Ken Silver doesn't want to.
- If he was a big scammer, why is he still selling his product for many years without being taken down? He's also still active in his blog and fb.
- Clickbank mentioned the Silver Lotto System is one of the top 5 lottery products for 5 years if I'm not wrong...
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You mean to say almost every site lottery reviewers, even those that are just product reviewers in the world are advertising for Ken Silver? He must be an amazing person to do that!
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I mean people build sites for traffic, More traffic more money for them. HP Laptops have independent review sites. Same thing More traffic more money. i dont believe everything i read on the internet. I mainly trust forums. Even with my laptop purchases this christmas i went to the forums for answers. Those sites dont tell you if the computer has faulty hardware or screen issues. Its the forums where you learn all the stuff. I wish i bought his product so i can give u the heads up but i didnt. and i dont plan on it.
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Yea, that's true lol. I found out from some website that clickbank normally don't offer refunds for lottery systems as wins with them cannot be guaranteed. To have a refund, you would need to prove that the lottery system is at fault, which is nearly impossible...
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Quote: Originally posted by Luminous on Dec 17, 2011
I have read most of the topics here regarding about Ken Silver's Silver Lotto System and found out that most of the comments are quite negative towards it. But when I searched about it, practically 98% of the site reviews I found all say it really does work. So the main thing is, does it work? I mean:
- Most of you might say the testimonials on his site are fake, but they are through clickbank right? So I don't think they are fake...
- You can request for a refund if it doesn't work for u within 2 months after you purchased, even if Ken Silver doesn't want to.
- If he was a big scammer, why is he still selling his product for many years without being taken down? He's also still active in his blog and fb.
- Clickbank mentioned the Silver Lotto System is one of the top 5 lottery products for 5 years if I'm not wrong...
So yeah, please discuss your views. :)
the reason they are negative is becuase his sytem is nothing special. I've seen it. he spreads the numbers out in a manner that is not any different than what most people would do anyways.
the testimonials are probably form people who don't have a clue about spreading the numbers out in certain way, which in itslef is not amzing in any way, but to the lay person, it's something they haven't thought about, so it seems like a good thing to them and that's why they have good reviews.
I got my refund, so all he did was waste my time. not saying that anyone using his sytem can't win the jackpot, but his system isn't anything earth shattering.
he hasn't been taken down for the same reason steve player hasn't. there is a new sucker around the corner to fill his voids. no legal basis to take them down. people pay willingly knowing full well the risk, plus with a return policy that is honored, no basis. There will always be new people who are looking for a system, so no shortage of takers there. Look at the government, they are the biggest scammers and they haven't been taken down.
clickbank mentioned it's been a good system because the system is a no nonsense down to earth system that does have some value to it, but not something that is revolutionary or remarkable.
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Quote: Originally posted by on Dec 18, 2011
the reason they are negative is becuase his sytem is nothing special. I've seen it. he spreads the numbers out in a manner that is not any different than what most people would do anyways.
the testimonials are probably form people who don't have a clue about spreading the numbers out in certain way, which in itslef is not amzing in any way, but to the lay person, it's something they haven't thought about, so it seems like a good thing to them and that's why they have good reviews.
I got my refund, so all he did was waste my time. not saying that anyone using his sytem can't win the jackpot, but his system isn't anything earth shattering.
he hasn't been taken down for the same reason steve player hasn't. there is a new sucker around the corner to fill his voids. no legal basis to take them down. people pay willingly knowing full well the risk, plus with a return policy that is honored, no basis. There will always be new people who are looking for a system, so no shortage of takers there. Look at the government, they are the biggest scammers and they haven't been taken down.
clickbank mentioned it's been a good system because the system is a no nonsense down to earth system that does have some value to it, but not something that is revolutionary or remarkable.
wanted to add that even with the refunds that are honored, the successful seller wil still make money from the people who are too lazy to go through the effort in getting a refund, AND, from the people who don't ask for a refund because like i said earlier, they've never heard of this system, and they think that if they stick with it, (which is true) they will have a better chance of winning. So their belief and faith in a "new and promising" system keeps the seller's pockets full. And with more of the same kinds of people (potential customers) around the corner soon to be a buyer. Very clever financial strategies.
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Almost all review sites on the internet these days are suspect. Even the ones that use the headline the product sucks, because they know that will attract readers. They are shills for ebooks, products and systems that pay up to 70% in commissions for sales. The reviews are as fake as the movie review snips on dvd covers.
That said, nothing up my sleeve, the Ken Silver system stays out of trouble because it works, up to a point.
If you can pick out more common combination types and use this knowledge to create starting combinations. You can win as Ken says 8 out of 10 times.
What you will win is at least one and maybe several three number prize(s) while spending roughly $120 to $160. And just as probability suggests, you will likely win a four number prize once and a while.
Jackpot, same odds as the rest of us based on the number of tickets you buy.
You see, if you take the combinations Ken Silver shows you how to make and drop them into a wheel tester like CoverMaster you will find they make an open cover wheel design of roughly 80% or better, hence your winning 8 out of 10 tries or 80% of the time.
So why not just make an 80% wheel in CoverMaster, it will be cheaper. Well it depends on how you view the lottery. If you believe all tickets are of equal value toward the next draw, this is a good way to go.
On the other hand, if you like to target more likely outcomes, such as odd and even, low and high numbers in a ratio of 2,3,4 avoiding 0,1,5,6 less commonly drawn, you can do this by how you setup the Silver starting combinations, which will then rock back and forth as you make the combinations. Exactly how useful this will turn out to be is anyone's guess as connecting with the winning combination with 120-160 combinations out of millions is still pretty slim.
As for the ad's suggestion you can do well just playing any 8 of those combinations due to a limited or sensible budget, well yes, if you could bank $112 to $152 each draw instead of playing you could find that bank account equals several 5 number prizes by the end of the year.
The system may be useful for lottery clubs/pools where winning something most draws helps keep the members interested.
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Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Dec 18, 2011
Almost all review sites on the internet these days are suspect. Even the ones that use the headline the product sucks, because they know that will attract readers. They are shills for ebooks, products and systems that pay up to 70% in commissions for sales. The reviews are as fake as the movie review snips on dvd covers.
That said, nothing up my sleeve, the Ken Silver system stays out of trouble because it works, up to a point.
If you can pick out more common combination types and use this knowledge to create starting combinations. You can win as Ken says 8 out of 10 times.
What you will win is at least one and maybe several three number prize(s) while spending roughly $120 to $160. And just as probability suggests, you will likely win a four number prize once and a while.
Jackpot, same odds as the rest of us based on the number of tickets you buy.
You see, if you take the combinations Ken Silver shows you how to make and drop them into a wheel tester like CoverMaster you will find they make an open cover wheel design of roughly 80% or better, hence your winning 8 out of 10 tries or 80% of the time.
So why not just make an 80% wheel in CoverMaster, it will be cheaper. Well it depends on how you view the lottery. If you believe all tickets are of equal value toward the next draw, this is a good way to go.
On the other hand, if you like to target more likely outcomes, such as odd and even, low and high numbers in a ratio of 2,3,4 avoiding 0,1,5,6 less commonly drawn, you can do this by how you setup the Silver starting combinations, which will then rock back and forth as you make the combinations. Exactly how useful this will turn out to be is anyone's guess as connecting with the winning combination with 120-160 combinations out of millions is still pretty slim.
As for the ad's suggestion you can do well just playing any 8 of those combinations due to a limited or sensible budget, well yes, if you could bank $112 to $152 each draw instead of playing you could find that bank account equals several 5 number prizes by the end of the year.
The system may be useful for lottery clubs/pools where winning something most draws helps keep the members interested.
BobP
Yeah, but the Pro version says you can win 98% of the time... I don't know if it's possible to make an 98% wheel.
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Quote: Originally posted by Luminous on Dec 17, 2011
I have read most of the topics here regarding about Ken Silver's Silver Lotto System and found out that most of the comments are quite negative towards it. But when I searched about it, practically 98% of the site reviews I found all say it really does work. So the main thing is, does it work? I mean:
- Most of you might say the testimonials on his site are fake, but they are through clickbank right? So I don't think they are fake...
- You can request for a refund if it doesn't work for u within 2 months after you purchased, even if Ken Silver doesn't want to.
- If he was a big scammer, why is he still selling his product for many years without being taken down? He's also still active in his blog and fb.
- Clickbank mentioned the Silver Lotto System is one of the top 5 lottery products for 5 years if I'm not wrong...
So yeah, please discuss your views. :)
What is more interesting is how many times since 2002 people have signed up to discuss this system in their FIRST post. If you do a search and read the comments you will see the reasons people don't buy into the hype.
For those not familiar with Clickbank, it is an internet business to promote and sell your own, or someone else's, product. It's interests lies in products THAT SELL, which is a quite different criteria from, a product that works.
From your post, I derive you are interested in starting an account to sell this system. You've posted your three key selling points and now you are looking for positive personal affirmation on this system. Sounds mostly like you want to rehash it with a fresh approach.
I submit your insistence on knowing could be had with a more personal approach. As you say, "You can request a refund if it doesn't work for u within 2 months after you purchased, even if Ken Silver doesn't want to."
Oh, be sure to check back and let us know how it works for you! TIA
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Quote: Originally posted by Luminous on Dec 17, 2011
I have read most of the topics here regarding about Ken Silver's Silver Lotto System and found out that most of the comments are quite negative towards it. But when I searched about it, practically 98% of the site reviews I found all say it really does work. So the main thing is, does it work? I mean:
- Most of you might say the testimonials on his site are fake, but they are through clickbank right? So I don't think they are fake...
- You can request for a refund if it doesn't work for u within 2 months after you purchased, even if Ken Silver doesn't want to.
- If he was a big scammer, why is he still selling his product for many years without being taken down? He's also still active in his blog and fb.
- Clickbank mentioned the Silver Lotto System is one of the top 5 lottery products for 5 years if I'm not wrong...
So yeah, please discuss your views. :)
If you really believed anything you have posted, why haven't you bought his system and come here to brag about your winnings? Probably because you know that his advertisements are misleading to convince people to buy his product. Sure, if you're willing to spend a $100 or so every time you play, you could win 80% of the time but winning a $2-$3 prize 80% of the times you spend $100 isn't anything to brag about.
You don't need a system to spend $46 or $39 on MegaMillions or PowerBall tickets with all their bonus numbers to win a $2-$3+ prize 100% of the time, just common sense. Ken Silver probably made his money selling his system rather than playing the lotteries using his system.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *