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Only 30 p-3 draws to trap a repeat number

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: January 23, 2012, 11:24 am - IP Logged

               Return numbers in Pick-3 or "Repeats" are closer than you might think ! Sulk Off


                   When is the last time your Pick 3 game had a repeat numberThinking of...

                                           Yes.... you better check!

           Repeat numbers hit more than you think......and sometimes...... even more than that! LOL

                   Normally,a repeat is known as... "another stupid repeat".  LOL 

                                                                       

                                                                       $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


                 Now we can make repeat numbers our friends.....for fun and profit! 

 

  ....... feelings can be good but if you actually know the expected hit rate on these things your feelings might get us more hits.


             Repeat numbers happen on average of 56.94 times a year on a 365 game.

We should expect to get about 41 single box repeats a year......and around 16 double repeats as well.


               Bottom line:

                             We will get a repeat number about once a week. Sun Smiley

       If your state's game hasn't had a repeat in the last 2 or 3 weeks ...... just look over the last 30 draws....they are there .....right in front of our eyes. Twitch

     

         Look over your last 30 draws and you should see about 4 or 5 repeaters ready to hit.   

     

                See if you can match them up with things like ..."due digits" or "due short sums" etc.

        Remember.....they are pretty much always there in the last 30 draws at any given time during the year.....looking right back at us.   

                              Good Luck ......you might have caught it just in time. 

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Posted: January 23, 2012, 12:27 pm - IP Logged

     Note to trackers:

     This is using a 30 past draw matrix on a sliding scale..... that is going back at any time during the year using the 30 previous draws. 

                ...... so the above figures reflect a 30/365 = 12 such individual marking events per year. 

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    


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       Note to trackers:

       This is using a 30 past draw matrix on a sliding scale..... that is going back at any time during the year using the 30 previous draws. 

                  ...... so the above figures reflect a 30/365 = 12 such individual marking events per year. 

      Thanks for proving yet again how pre-draws corrupt any data fed into any pick 3 software.

      So why do you think that there are sooooooo many repeats ?

      answer -----> because there are at least 4 pre-draws  which represent hidden data to every live draw given to the public.

      Now ask yourself how could you possibly ever track a combination with the followers list when it has previously hit in the pre-draws ?

      answer----->> you cant....!!!!

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        Thanks for proving yet again how pre-draws corrupt any data fed into any pick 3 software.

        So why do you think that there are sooooooo many repeats ?

        answer -----> because there are at least 4 pre-draws  which represent hidden data to every live draw given to the public.

        Now ask yourself how could you possibly ever track a combination with the followers list when it has previously hit in the pre-draws ?

        answer----->> you cant....!!!!

        Staging pre-draws may turn out to be a two-way sword.

        Human interventions to lower the chances of forecasting winners can inject an unintended element of exploitable skewness into the official results.

        I don't know to what extent CA uses pre-draws, if any. But just look at the results of CA Pick 3 from last November to the present.

        The frequency of doubles in the winning numbers is significantly above its theorectical probability.

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          Staging pre-draws may turn out to be a two-way sword.

          Human interventions to lower the chances of forecasting winners can inject an unintended element of exploitable skewness into the official results.

          I don't know to what extent CA uses pre-draws, if any. But just look at the results of CA Pick 3 from last November to the present.

          The frequency of doubles in the winning numbers is significantly above its theorectical probability.


          The California Pick-3 draws are held in a computer, so draw testing isn't an issue.  See . . .

          http://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp

          Birthday Paradox math can be applied to Pick-3, however it isn't predictive, only informative.

          BobP

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            Posted: January 26, 2012, 10:19 am - IP Logged

            Thanks for the reminder WIN D  , Sometimes I look at under average pairs or under average sums to find a repeat then I go to the "search past results " to see how if fell over the last couple years. Love the search past results tool. Thanks Todd !

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              Thanks for proving yet again how pre-draws corrupt any data fed into any pick 3 software.

              So why do you think that there are sooooooo many repeats ?

              answer -----> because there are at least 4 pre-draws  which represent hidden data to every live draw given to the public.

              Now ask yourself how could you possibly ever track a combination with the followers list when it has previously hit in the pre-draws ?

              answer----->> you cant....!!!!

              I'm going to repeat this for like the 50th time:  please stop posting this same complaint on every forum post.  It is considered BOTH spamming and trolling. If you want to discuss an unrelated topic, then please post it in your own thread -- or an an existing thread that deals with your topic specifically.  I have asked you this privately, but it doesn't seem to have taken hold.

              Everyone here knows that you don't like pre-draws and you think the NCEL is corrupt (among other things).  They know that because you have posted it about 1,000 times in many different threads.  Please do not take ANY more threads off-topic.

               

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                I'm going to repeat this for like the 50th time:  please stop posting this same complaint on every forum post.  It is considered BOTH spamming and trolling. If you want to discuss an unrelated topic, then please post it in your own thread -- or an an existing thread that deals with your topic specifically.  I have asked you this privately, but it doesn't seem to have taken hold.

                Everyone here knows that you don't like pre-draws and you think the NCEL is corrupt (among other things).  They know that because you have posted it about 1,000 times in many different threads.  Please do not take ANY more threads off-topic.

                Thumbs Up

                The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!! Wink

                 I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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                  Posted: January 27, 2012, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

                   Note to trackers:

                   This is using a 30 past draw matrix on a sliding scale..... that is going back at any time during the year using the 30 previous draws. 

                              ...... so the above figures reflect a 30/365 = 12 such individual marking events per year. 

                  WIN-D 

                  Thank you ....very informative as always.....

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                    Posted: January 27, 2012, 3:24 pm - IP Logged

                                   Return numbers in Pick-3 or "Repeats" are closer than you might think ! Sulk Off


                                       When is the last time your Pick 3 game had a repeat numberThinking of...

                                                               Yes.... you better check!

                               Repeat numbers hit more than you think......and sometimes...... even more than that! LOL

                                       Normally,a repeat is known as... "another stupid repeat".  LOL 

                                                                                           

                                                                                           $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


                                     Now we can make repeat numbers our friends.....for fun and profit! 

                     

                      ....... feelings can be good but if you actually know the expected hit rate on these things your feelings might get us more hits.


                                 Repeat numbers happen on average of 56.94 times a year on a 365 game.

                    We should expect to get about 41 single box repeats a year......and around 16 double repeats as well.


                                   Bottom line:

                                                 We will get a repeat number about once a week. Sun Smiley

                           If your state's game hasn't had a repeat in the last 2 or 3 weeks ...... just look over the last 30 draws....they are there .....right in front of our eyes. Twitch

                         

                             Look over your last 30 draws and you should see about 4 or 5 repeaters ready to hit.   

                         

                                    See if you can match them up with things like ..."due digits" or "due short sums" etc.

                            Remember.....they are pretty much always there in the last 30 draws at any given time during the year.....looking right back at us.   

                                                  Good Luck ......you might have caught it just in time. 

                    Before Ohio went to the Sunday drawings, 30 drawings was the best way to track digit position frequency because I could start every drawing cycle on Monday. There were many front pair, back pair, and outside pair repeats within the next 1 or 2 weeks, but never found a way to consistently isolate which pairs were most likely to repeat.

                    That was long before LP so maybe someone can come up with an idea to isolate which pairs.

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                      Posted: January 28, 2012, 10:24 am - IP Logged

                       Note to trackers:

                       This is using a 30 past draw matrix on a sliding scale..... that is going back at any time during the year using the 30 previous draws. 

                                  ...... so the above figures reflect a 30/365 = 12 such individual marking events per year. 

                      Chaz, this may be a filter where the pre-draws work for you. Look at the stat for Fl Mid. Using 20 draws instead of 30. Repeats still average hitting every 11 draws. Using 30 draws, every 7 draws.

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