somewhere Canada Member #39919 May 24, 2006 150 Posts Offline

Posted: February 2, 2012, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

Hello somer,

Nice little advancement into a 'formula' for P3. I have been back-testing the program built by Garyo [with many thanks to his program skills] and doing exactly what you just mentioned in your post, and that is to load the last draw into the program for the next days set. Worked tonight in Ontario P3. Had I played the 28 betsets 'straight play' the number 692 hit exactly for $532.20. The previous draw was 654, so you can check it yourself.

That is one thing I wanted to mention. One must play all 28 in STRAIGHT bets AND 28 in BOX bets to be ready for either to hit. That's really 56$ for the daily bet!!! and not 28$ as you posted. However, its a good sure fire method I like and yet its a good gamble comparable to any Casino bet I'd make on the slots-which can take me into the 100$ of dollars when I play here in Ontario.

In some of the back-testing I have noticed that a winning hit is in the 28 sets 2x-which is a very good and rare thing. But honestly speaking, back-testing your formula is not wise or shall I say really not worth it, might as well bet the 56$ and trust a hit occurs, whether its from the past or expected from the future-one can not tell.

The idea works very well as you said in your first post, you just need the hits for the profit.

...thanks again and all the best to you and others on the LP who have the $ to play.

yt

dx123

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Posted: February 3, 2012, 1:29 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by dx123 on February 2, 2012

Hello somer,

Nice little advancement into a 'formula' for P3. I have been back-testing the program built by Garyo [with many thanks to his program skills] and doing exactly what you just mentioned in your post, and that is to load the last draw into the program for the next days set. Worked tonight in Ontario P3. Had I played the 28 betsets 'straight play' the number 692 hit exactly for $532.20. The previous draw was 654, so you can check it yourself.

That is one thing I wanted to mention. One must play all 28 in STRAIGHT bets AND 28 in BOX bets to be ready for either to hit. That's really 56$ for the daily bet!!! and not 28$ as you posted. However, its a good sure fire method I like and yet its a good gamble comparable to any Casino bet I'd make on the slots-which can take me into the 100$ of dollars when I play here in Ontario.

In some of the back-testing I have noticed that a winning hit is in the 28 sets 2x-which is a very good and rare thing. But honestly speaking, back-testing your formula is not wise or shall I say really not worth it, might as well bet the 56$ and trust a hit occurs, whether its from the past or expected from the future-one can not tell.

The idea works very well as you said in your first post, you just need the hits for the profit.

...thanks again and all the best to you and others on the LP who have the $ to play.

yt

dx123

good point. I had a brain fart on the cost. how the heck i forgot that i'll be danged !

Even though you got a straight hit, i have a feeling a new formula must be worked with a wiser choice as to how much to add and subtract, and not any number that looks good. there will always be one or two winners out of many, so unless a good portion of people win, it's back to the drawing board.

The key is to first cut the 28 numbers by half then spend much time and effort on which numbers to use for the addition and subtraction, and one more step, to not have the same formula for both addition and subtraction.

Also want to start a p-4 version because someone told me a few years ago that even the p-4 is 10 times harder, the numbers have less wiggle room and it becomes easier to win than the p-3. But I digress. This system was thought up on a whim without time spent to create good numbers. If such a thing as a good number even exists...lol

I believe that there is no system that will reap overwhelming profits which will eclipse all others on a regular basis. They all will have spikes and dips. The best we can do is to try to make a formula that best mimics the trends and patterns we may forsee and cross our fingers.

unless you possess powers of a super-human alien hybrid who can make successful straight p-3 daily predictions with just 5 combos look like child's play, forget it. No matter how much we think a pattern may go this way and that way, most of the time, it throws us a left curve.

So my point is that the best we can do is to create a formula that has a make up of both what i call "Casual" numbers and "Radical numbers" mixed together. That's the 64,000 dollar secret.

Dallas, Texas United States Member #4549 May 2, 2004 1665 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 12:06 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on February 3, 2012

good point. I had a brain fart on the cost. how the heck i forgot that i'll be danged !

Even though you got a straight hit, i have a feeling a new formula must be worked with a wiser choice as to how much to add and subtract, and not any number that looks good. there will always be one or two winners out of many, so unless a good portion of people win, it's back to the drawing board.

The key is to first cut the 28 numbers by half then spend much time and effort on which numbers to use for the addition and subtraction, and one more step, to not have the same formula for both addition and subtraction.

Also want to start a p-4 version because someone told me a few years ago that even the p-4 is 10 times harder, the numbers have less wiggle room and it becomes easier to win than the p-3. But I digress. This system was thought up on a whim without time spent to create good numbers. If such a thing as a good number even exists...lol

I believe that there is no system that will reap overwhelming profits which will eclipse all others on a regular basis. They all will have spikes and dips. The best we can do is to try to make a formula that best mimics the trends and patterns we may forsee and cross our fingers.

unless you possess powers of a super-human alien hybrid who can make successful straight p-3 daily predictions with just 5 combos look like child's play, forget it. No matter how much we think a pattern may go this way and that way, most of the time, it throws us a left curve.

So my point is that the best we can do is to create a formula that has a make up of both what i call "Casual" numbers and "Radical numbers" mixed together. That's the 64,000 dollar secret.

Somer,

Can't wait to see what else you come up with. Going to stop this download shortly. It is well over 100 at this point and I have a few other things to put up.

Saskatchewan Canada Member #19992 August 9, 2005 2867 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on February 1, 2012

Thanks to Oneday for giving me the idea, a member here on LP, I decided to try a formula of my own for the p-3. Try this in your state and tell me how it goes.

Good for TEN consecutive draws, not TEN days, but TEN draws. Of course If your state only has one draw a day, it would be ten days.

I backtested this with the last 10 draws in California and was $920.00 ahead in just 5 days playing imaginary online game. Two box hits and 1 straight.

Take the last winning number in your state and apply the following formula.

Example from California,

Friday, January 27, midday winner was 751 (ten consecutive draws ago)

751- The first part is to add, and the second part is to subtract. X= keep the same number. use lottery math.

EXample add...X95 applied to 751 would be 746....7 stays the same cause X means keep the number. then add 9+5=14 (lottery math is 4)....and then add 5+1= 6....746

Ok, here's my backtest for the past 10 consecutive draws in cali,

751 is the workout number,

Here's the formula for both addition and subtraction,

+ -

X95= 746 766

X48= 799 712

73X= 481 021

27X= 921 581

X6X= 711791

X1X= 761 741

95X= 601 801

48X= 131 371

X73= 724 782

X27= 778 736

6XX= 351 951

1XX= 851 651

XX6= 751 754

XX1= 752 750

February 1, mid winner 711

January 31, mid winner 728

January 28, mid winner 917

Straight winner in red

Boxed winners are in green

Total cost 28 combos at 28 bucks for 10 draws equals 280 bucks.

Ok, lets do one for the next 10 draws using today's california mid which was 711.

711 workout number

+ -

X95= 706 726

X48= 759 773

73X= 441 081

27X= 981 541

X6X= 771 751

X1X= 721 701

95X= 661 861

48X= 191 331

X73= 784 748

X27= 738 794

6XX= 311 111

1XX= 811 611

XX6= 717 715

XX1= 712 710

Good for next 10 consecutive draws starting with tonight's cali draw as the first one.

751- The first part is to add, and the second part is to subtract. X= keep the same number. use lottery math.

EXample add...X95 applied to 751 would be 746....7 stays the same cause X means keep the number. then add 9+5=14 (lottery math is 4)....and then add 5+1= 6....746

Ok, here's my backtest for the past 10 consecutive draws in cali,

751 is the workout number,

Here's the formula for both addition and subtraction,

+ -

X95= 746 766

X48= 799 712

73X= 481 021

27X= 921 581

X6X= 711791

I have a question on how you got the straight 7-1-1

x6x -----If X stays the same we have the 7 in first spot... so 7-?-?

Now we add the last 2 digits so that would be 6 and X which is 7 so 6+7 = 13 or "3" so how did you get the middle 1??

I get 7-3-3 not 7-1-1

Am i missing something?

We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

Florida United States Member #66575 October 30, 2008 3549 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Rakster on February 3, 2012

751- The first part is to add, and the second part is to subtract. X= keep the same number. use lottery math.

EXample add...X95 applied to 751 would be 746....7 stays the same cause X means keep the number. then add 9+5=14 (lottery math is 4)....and then add 5+1= 6....746

Ok, here's my backtest for the past 10 consecutive draws in cali,

751 is the workout number,

Here's the formula for both addition and subtraction,

+ -

X95= 746 766

X48= 799 712

73X= 481 021

27X= 921 581

X6X= 711791

I have a question on how you got the straight 7-1-1

x6x -----If X stays the same we have the 7 in first spot... so 7-?-?

Now we add the last 2 digits so that would be 6 and X which is 7 so 6+7 = 13 or "3" so how did you get the middle 1??

I get 7-3-3 not 7-1-1

Am i missing something?

Rakster

Im also getting the 711 when I do it in excel, Im pretty sure its correct

Sorry its so big

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Guest

Member #0 January 1, 2000 0 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 10:01 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Rakster on February 3, 2012

751- The first part is to add, and the second part is to subtract. X= keep the same number. use lottery math.

EXample add...X95 applied to 751 would be 746....7 stays the same cause X means keep the number. then add 9+5=14 (lottery math is 4)....and then add 5+1= 6....746

Ok, here's my backtest for the past 10 consecutive draws in cali,

751 is the workout number,

Here's the formula for both addition and subtraction,

+ -

X95= 746 766

X48= 799 712

73X= 481 021

27X= 921 581

X6X= 711791

I have a question on how you got the straight 7-1-1

x6x -----If X stays the same we have the 7 in first spot... so 7-?-?

Now we add the last 2 digits so that would be 6 and X which is 7 so 6+7 = 13 or "3" so how did you get the middle 1??

I get 7-3-3 not 7-1-1

Am i missing something?

751

+ -

X6X 711791

Add--- X=stay the same=7....................... then count up 6 times from 5....6-7-8-9-0-1...........and finally for the last x stays the same 1..................711

subtract--- x=stay the same 7...................then count down 6 times from 5....4-3-2-1-0-9........and finally for the last x stays the same 1..................791

Dallas, Texas United States Member #4549 May 2, 2004 1665 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 10:01 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Rakster on February 3, 2012

751- The first part is to add, and the second part is to subtract. X= keep the same number. use lottery math.

EXample add...X95 applied to 751 would be 746....7 stays the same cause X means keep the number. then add 9+5=14 (lottery math is 4)....and then add 5+1= 6....746

Ok, here's my backtest for the past 10 consecutive draws in cali,

751 is the workout number,

Here's the formula for both addition and subtraction,

+ -

X95= 746 766

X48= 799 712

73X= 481 021

27X= 921 581

X6X= 711791

I have a question on how you got the straight 7-1-1

x6x -----If X stays the same we have the 7 in first spot... so 7-?-?

Now we add the last 2 digits so that would be 6 and X which is 7 so 6+7 = 13 or "3" so how did you get the middle 1??

Saskatchewan Canada Member #19992 August 9, 2005 2867 Posts Offline

Posted: February 3, 2012, 10:50 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on February 3, 2012

751

+ -

X6X 711791

Add--- X=stay the same=7....................... then count up 6 times from 5....6-7-8-9-0-1...........and finally for the last x stays the same 1..................711

subtract--- x=stay the same 7...................then count down 6 times from 5....4-3-2-1-0-9........and finally for the last x stays the same 1..................791

I didn't know u had to count up 6 i thought it was lotto math... 6 plus third digit which x is 1 so 6 plus 1 is 7...<snip> now i got a different number...lol

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Posted: February 4, 2012, 1:35 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Rakster on February 3, 2012

I didn't know u had to count up 6 i thought it was lotto math... 6 plus third digit which x is 1 so 6 plus 1 is 7...<snip> now i got a different number...lol

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it is lottery math 6+5=11 or 1

751

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I think your confused on which numbers you are adding. you don't add the 6 plus the third digit which is 1, you only add in the same column 7+0.....5+6.....1+0, you don't add diagonally, just in the same columns.

Saskatchewan Canada Member #19992 August 9, 2005 2867 Posts Offline

Posted: February 4, 2012, 8:19 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Guest on February 4, 2012

it is lottery math 6+5=11 or 1

751

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I think your confused on which numbers you are adding. you don't add the 6 plus the third digit which is 1, you only add in the same column 7+0.....5+6.....1+0, you don't add diagonally, just in the same columns.

ok...now i got it...thank...i thought u were adding numbers across

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somewhere Canada Member #39919 May 24, 2006 150 Posts Offline

Posted: February 5, 2012, 12:27 am - IP Logged

somer>>>

I didn't play any P3 on February 3 for I knew a double number was going to hit after that win from the previous night, and your system did not have the winning number of 313 to play and neither did mine, so I lost nothing there.

However, after loading 313 into your program set up by garyo for tonight's game, I found the number that hit tonight. Number 963 was the hit here in Ontario. My program also predicted 396 which had a match with one of the 28 number configurations produced by your program. You can check it too where you will see 396. I placed a 5$ straight bet on 396 without the win, but did a back up BOX bet and placed a 2$ bet on the number 396 for a win of 138.60$. That's correct, I made only the 2 bets for 7$ total and hit the 963. Now I'll go to the Casino here and blow it all on the slots, which I like to play. There are several high $ machines with around 100000$ in them and I want one!!! LOLOl

Trust you are playing your sets for the win too. It was a good conformation between our 2 systems for the win. Thats 2 hits in 3 days. <snip>ed good from where I'm sitting.

Thanks.

yt

dx123

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Posted: February 5, 2012, 3:05 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by dx123 on February 5, 2012

somer>>>

I didn't play any P3 on February 3 for I knew a double number was going to hit after that win from the previous night, and your system did not have the winning number of 313 to play and neither did mine, so I lost nothing there.

However, after loading 313 into your program set up by garyo for tonight's game, I found the number that hit tonight. Number 963 was the hit here in Ontario. My program also predicted 396 which had a match with one of the 28 number configurations produced by your program. You can check it too where you will see 396. I placed a 5$ straight bet on 396 without the win, but did a back up BOX bet and placed a 2$ bet on the number 396 for a win of 138.60$. That's correct, I made only the 2 bets for 7$ total and hit the 963. Now I'll go to the Casino here and blow it all on the slots, which I like to play. There are several high $ machines with around 100000$ in them and I want one!!! LOLOl

Trust you are playing your sets for the win too. It was a good conformation between our 2 systems for the win. Thats 2 hits in 3 days. <snip>ed good from where I'm sitting.

Thanks.

yt

dx123

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awesome. 138 bucks is better than nothing.

I'm doing short tests here and there cause I just don't have the free tme right now to do longer tests because of work recently. But I want to do longer tests on something I've been playing with. I've noticed on two occasion, only 7 days apart where i can get a straight hit when using Garyo's program but with a slight twist. Instead of one combo every 10 days, i tried using the night before, or the mid before and using all variations of the number.

For example...on friday ev Feb 3 in california the winning number was 130. If you use all ways 130 can be put into garyo's program, you will get six different 28 groups, but some of the njumbers repeat in the six groups. but the next eve was 451, a straight hit winning number which was included in one of those groups.

Anothe thing I noticed is that 451 boxed matched the original 711 workout number. So maybe looking for matches and only playing those matches may prove a cheaper financial burden with bigger payoffs, but like i said it needs more testing. maybe when i get more free time i;ll do a longer test.

But the following numbers are based on matches with just three of those groups for tomoorow's mid only. Let's if I'm onto something here, or back to the drawing board with more tests.