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The Low Down on the Mega Millions Numbers (Pick 5 Part)

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Do you think the drawn numbers were too low?

Yes [ 14 ]  [34.15%]
Maybe [ 6 ]  [14.63%]
No [ 21 ]  [51.22%]
Total Valid Votes [ 41 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 4 ]  
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Posted: March 21, 2012, 11:01 am - IP Logged

Here's a run down on some probabilities.

 

Mega Millions Pick 5 Part
- Probability of Having -% Probability
None Greater ThanNone Less Than
5520.00002618%
6510.00015708%
7500.00054976%
8490.00146604%
9480.00329859%
10470.00659718%
11460.01209482%
12450.02073398%
13440.03369272%
14430.05241090%
15420.07861635%
16410.11435106%
17400.16199733%
18390.22430400%
19380.30441257%
20370.40588342%
21360.53272199%
22350.68940493%
23340.88090631%
24331.11272375%
25321.39090469%
26311.72207248%
27302.11345259%
28292.57289880%
29283.10891938%
30273.73070326%
31264.44814619%
32255.27187697%
33246.21328357%
34237.28453936%
35228.49862925%
36219.86937591%
372011.41146589%
381913.14047588%
391815.07289880%
401717.22617006%
411619.61869368%
421522.26986850%
431425.20011435%
441328.43089824%
451231.98476052%
461135.88534107%
471040.15740549%
48944.82687124%
49849.92083388%
50755.46759320%
51661.49667942%
52568.03887936%
53475.12626263%
54382.79220779%
55291.07142857%
561100.00000000%

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    HoLeeKau's avatar - YheaShea
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    Posted: March 21, 2012, 11:56 am - IP Logged

    "Do you think the drawn numbers were too low?"

     

    Too low for what?

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      Posted: March 21, 2012, 12:19 pm - IP Logged

      "Do you think the drawn numbers were too low?"

       

      Too low for what?

      Exactly.

      Answering a question with a question doesn't answer the original question.

      At best, you restated the original question.

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        Posted: March 21, 2012, 12:33 pm - IP Logged

        Anyone answering this with another question will be interpreted as 'Rhetorical'; a question you are asking yourself out loud and must be answered by yourself.

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          RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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          Posted: March 21, 2012, 3:29 pm - IP Logged

          While the last drawing had the lowest sum(36) in MegaMillions/BigGame history, other drawings had smaller ranges and lower highest numbers.

           03/20/12 - 01 04 06 11 14  +30
           09/10/10 - 11 12 17 21 23  +20
           09/15/09 - 29 30 32 35 41  +39
           09/27/02 - 23 27 30 33 36  +05
          -BigGame became MegaMillions-05/17/02
           04/02/02 - 34 37 38 39 42  +21
           12/04/01 - 17 21 22 24 30  +07
           05/25/01 - 12 13 17 20 22  +33
           01/02/01 - 07 08 11 12 13  +12
           02/22/00 - 33 35 36 40 43  +11
           02/20/98 - 09 11 12 17 19  +13

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: March 21, 2012, 4:40 pm - IP Logged

            Here's the symmetry of none greater than 14...  none less than 43.

            Just as a comparison.

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              Posted: March 21, 2012, 4:49 pm - IP Logged

              Here's the symmetry of none greater than 14...  none less than 43.

              Just as a comparison.

              We did a search and didn't find any draws where all the Pick 5 numbers had none less than 43.

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                Posted: March 21, 2012, 10:34 pm - IP Logged

                Exactly.

                Answering a question with a question doesn't answer the original question.

                At best, you restated the original question.

                Perhaps it was a request for clarification.

                Personally, I don't understand the original question.  Or, to be more precise, I don't understand the premise of the original question.  Yes, all of the numbers were on the lower end of the spectrum, and yes, that's statistically improbable.  But I wouldn't attribute anything to it beyond the luck of the draw.

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                  RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                  Posted: March 22, 2012, 12:21 am - IP Logged

                  Perhaps it was a request for clarification.

                  Personally, I don't understand the original question.  Or, to be more precise, I don't understand the premise of the original question.  Yes, all of the numbers were on the lower end of the spectrum, and yes, that's statistically improbable.  But I wouldn't attribute anything to it beyond the luck of the draw.

                  68 tickets matching five of any combination is statistically improbable and there seems not to have been a common source as in the PB fortune cookie incident.

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                    68 tickets matching five of any combination is statistically improbable and there seems not to have been a common source as in the PB fortune cookie incident.

                    I attribute it to people playing birthdays. A lot of people play birthdays, which means a lot of people play low numbers. I was for sure someone was going to win it when I seen all those low numbers. Had I played my family's birthdays, I would have gotten 4+0. It must have killed all those people to just miss out on the mega number, that's my worst nightmare. The money isn't bad(you're 250k richer!), but just missing out on 241 million? Ouch.

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                      Posted: March 22, 2012, 7:50 am - IP Logged

                      For further clarity, we see an answer to a question with a question as being in one of two beginning categories:

                      1. You are confounded by the original question.

                      2. You are trying to confound the original question.


                      The first, we'd have to say look at the question everyone: no big words and it asks for an opinion, not another question.

                      We suggest anyone with a definition question find a dictionary, library with a dictionary, or here's the online dictionary; wikitionary at http://en.wiktionary.org .

                      It's recommended that anyone having problems with the wording look up the word they are stumbling on and see how it's being used in the basic context of the question.


                      The second, well, that deserves no response.

                      Thinking this will throw in the sabot, "Define _________ ", that too is a question.

                      This isn't an insurance policy or someone trying to weasel their way out of court case.

                      We're using same language we all can agree on and is fully defined.

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                        Posted: March 22, 2012, 9:53 am - IP Logged

                        Here's a wheel we generated from our program at http://www.jadexcode.com/JADEXHOME/ASimpleWheelGenerator.aspx for the Pick 5 part.

                        You might want to use it for those really tight spots like the one we've seen here.

                        Hint-hint, wink-wink.

                        Wink

                         

                        Wheel
                        - Pick 5
                        - 14 Numbers
                        - 14 Combinations
                        - 0.699301% Coverage of 2,002 Combinations

                        Condition
                        - If 5 Drawn Numbers are in the Set of 14 Numbers,
                        - Then at least 1 Combination has 3 Winning Numbers.
                        ____________________________________________
                        02 04 05 09 13
                        01 02 06 08 14
                        03 04 09 11 12
                        01 03 04 08 13
                        05 07 08 10 12
                        01 04 05 12 14
                        01 02 07 11 12
                        03 06 07 09 10
                        06 10 11 12 13
                        01 05 06 09 11
                        02 04 08 10 11
                        05 07 11 13 14
                        08 09 10 13 14
                        02 03 10 12 14
                        ____________________________________________

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                          Posted: March 22, 2012, 10:04 am - IP Logged

                          Oh, and by the way, our initial probabilities statement, the symmetry reference, and recently posted wheel is meant for those trained in the Mathemagical Arts.

                          Those of you not familiar with wheels or other mathemagical related items are free to research them by using the Lottery Post 'Search for something' feature in the upper right under the menu bar heading 'Resources'.

                          In addition, you have a whole World Wide Web at your disposal, use it; that's what it's there for.

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                            Posted: March 22, 2012, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

                            Here's a run down on some probabilities.

                             

                            Mega Millions Pick 5 Part
                            - Probability of Having -% Probability
                            None Greater ThanNone Less Than
                            5520.00002618%
                            6510.00015708%
                            7500.00054976%
                            8490.00146604%
                            9480.00329859%
                            10470.00659718%
                            11460.01209482%
                            12450.02073398%
                            13440.03369272%
                            14430.05241090%
                            15420.07861635%
                            16410.11435106%
                            17400.16199733%
                            18390.22430400%
                            19380.30441257%
                            20370.40588342%
                            21360.53272199%
                            22350.68940493%
                            23340.88090631%
                            24331.11272375%
                            25321.39090469%
                            26311.72207248%
                            27302.11345259%
                            28292.57289880%
                            29283.10891938%
                            30273.73070326%
                            31264.44814619%
                            32255.27187697%
                            33246.21328357%
                            34237.28453936%
                            35228.49862925%
                            36219.86937591%
                            372011.41146589%
                            381913.14047588%
                            391815.07289880%
                            401717.22617006%
                            411619.61869368%
                            421522.26986850%
                            431425.20011435%
                            441328.43089824%
                            451231.98476052%
                            461135.88534107%
                            471040.15740549%
                            48944.82687124%
                            49849.92083388%
                            50755.46759320%
                            51661.49667942%
                            52568.03887936%
                            53475.12626263%
                            54382.79220779%
                            55291.07142857%
                            561100.00000000%

                            I voted no, just mad that I didn't play those numbers.....LOL

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                              Posted: March 22, 2012, 12:14 pm - IP Logged

                              I voted no, just mad that I didn't play those numbers.....LOL

                              At this point, I'm the only one that voted 'maybe'.

                              Part of me says 'no' based on probability, but part of me says 'yes' due to the imbalance in symmetry.

                              We'll see how things go from here on out.

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