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Apr 21, 2012, 7:53 am

Hi,

I don't play Pick 3 games. But it doesn't mean mean that I don't look at them on occassion.

I posed the question, how fast are all 10 digits used up or how long does it take before all 10 digits have been selected.

In the excel tracking below...

The x-axis is the amount of games tracked.

The y-axis is how many different digits have been selected.

I hope this will be of some value to you Pick 3 players. *S*

FILL IN VALUES
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	28	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	63	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	32	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	39	17	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	16	38	17	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	28	36	26	7	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7	30	37	36	24	15	10	5	3	1	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6	25	37	45	43	40	37	33	32	30	27	24
10	0	0	0	2	4	13	22	33	43	51	57	60	63	66	69
FILL IN VALUES %
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	30.1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	67.7	6.45	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	34.4	3.23	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	41.9	18.3	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	17.2	40.9	18.3	1.08	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	30.1	38.7	28	7.53	2.15	1.09	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7.53	32.3	39.8	38.7	25.8	16.3	10.8	5.38	3.23	1.08	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6.45	26.9	39.8	48.4	46.7	43	39.8	35.5	34.4	32.3	29	25.8
10	0	0	0	2.15	4.3	14	23.7	35.9	46.2	54.8	61.3	64.5	67.7	71	74.2

You are a slave to the choices you have made. jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find an acorn.

There is no elevator to success, you will have to take the stairs.

dr san

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Apr 21, 2012, 10:30 am

Quote: Originally posted by JKING on Apr 21, 2012

Hi,

I don't play Pick 3 games. But it doesn't mean mean that I don't look at them on occassion.

I posed the question, how fast are all 10 digits used up or how long does it take before all 10 digits have been selected.

In the excel tracking below...

The x-axis is the amount of games tracked.

The y-axis is how many different digits have been selected.

I hope this will be of some value to you Pick 3 players. *S*

FILL IN VALUES
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	28	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	63	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	32	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	39	17	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	16	38	17	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	28	36	26	7	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7	30	37	36	24	15	10	5	3	1	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6	25	37	45	43	40	37	33	32	30	27	24
10	0	0	0	2	4	13	22	33	43	51	57	60	63	66	69
FILL IN VALUES %
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	30.1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	67.7	6.45	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	34.4	3.23	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	41.9	18.3	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	17.2	40.9	18.3	1.08	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	30.1	38.7	28	7.53	2.15	1.09	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7.53	32.3	39.8	38.7	25.8	16.3	10.8	5.38	3.23	1.08	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6.45	26.9	39.8	48.4	46.7	43	39.8	35.5	34.4	32.3	29	25.8
10	0	0	0	2.15	4.3	14	23.7	35.9	46.2	54.8	61.3	64.5	67.7	71	74.2

Hello, jking, you could also see, the output of the pick3 pairs, the pairs in three positions See which pair of 1st position this late in the 2nd or 3rd position, which is leaving more pair with another pair, ahhh! Here is not exchange couple, but to see what is coming out with that pair, because we have three pairs in pick3 possives example = 458 pairs 1st 45 2nd 58 and 3rd 48 = 45,48,58 For if we analyze the vertical position of each, and use the pivot pair, the pair center (48) and see how long it takes to go out with a pair of left (45) and right (58).

JKING

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Apr 21, 2012, 6:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JKING on Apr 21, 2012

Hi,

I don't play Pick 3 games. But it doesn't mean mean that I don't look at them on occassion.

I posed the question, how fast are all 10 digits used up or how long does it take before all 10 digits have been selected.

In the excel tracking below...

The x-axis is the amount of games tracked.

The y-axis is how many different digits have been selected.

I hope this will be of some value to you Pick 3 players. *S*

FILL IN VALUES
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	28	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	63	6	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	32	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	39	17	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	16	38	17	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	28	36	26	7	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7	30	37	36	24	15	10	5	3	1	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6	25	37	45	43	40	37	33	32	30	27	24
10	0	0	0	2	4	13	22	33	43	51	57	60	63	66	69
FILL IN VALUES %
AMOUNT OF GAMES
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15
0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
1	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	30.1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	67.7	6.45	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	0	34.4	3.23	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	0	41.9	18.3	2.15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	0	17.2	40.9	18.3	1.08	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	0	0	30.1	38.7	28	7.53	2.15	1.09	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	0	0	7.53	32.3	39.8	38.7	25.8	16.3	10.8	5.38	3.23	1.08	0	0	0
9	0	0	0	6.45	26.9	39.8	48.4	46.7	43	39.8	35.5	34.4	32.3	29	25.8
10	0	0	0	2.15	4.3	14	23.7	35.9	46.2	54.8	61.3	64.5	67.7	71	74.2

Hi,

For those of you that are wondering what the excel tracking is telling you....

At one game..

There is only a 2.15% that two numbers from the previous game will repeat.

There is a 30.1 % chance that 1 number will repeat from the previous draw with two numbers that occurred in the previous draw.

There is a 67.7% chance that no numbers will be repeated from the previous draw.

At game two..

There is a 6.45% chance that only 3 different digits will have been selected.

There is a 34.4% chance that at least 4 different digits will have been selected.

And so on and so forth.

If you track the data for your state, you should geet simular results.

It should also give you a predictive clue for the next pick, simply by process of elimination.

You are a slave to the choices you have made. jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find an acorn.

There is no elevator to success, you will have to take the stairs.

dr san

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Apr 21, 2012, 7:23 pm

Hello, kjing, after the departure of a couple as long as he turns to leave, because we have three pairs in pick3, after leaving which the frequency back again in the 1st position or 2nd position OU3 th position, eg the pair 79 , which atrasdo output in the 1st or 2nd or third place, this study has no forum where this couple came along and this delayed
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Apr 22, 2012, 1:21 am

Hi, Dr San,

What I am suggesting as a system is much simpler.

At a 67.7% chance that no numbers will be repeated from the previous draw, that only leaves 7 number to generate a winning box/straight combination (excluding doubles and triples).

123 234 345 456 567

124 235 346 457

125 236 347

126 237

127

That is a total of 15 wagers per game to average a winning combination over 50% of the time.

If additional reliable filters can be applied, so much the better.

Perhaps, some of the pick 3 guru's here could backtest it for thier own states to see if it true and profitable.

You are a slave to the choices you have made. jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find an acorn.

There is no elevator to success, you will have to take the stairs.
retxx

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Apr 22, 2012, 1:50 pm

can you post the chart excel to download and use todays mid as an example 768 to show the next draw
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Apr 22, 2012, 3:53 pm

Hi J King;

Yes this system is simpler but there are 35 wagers per game not 15. Lets say 789 hits, then your 7 numbers are- 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 with the following bets

012 013 014 015 016 023 024 025 026 034 035 036 045 046 056 123 124 125 126 134 135 136 145 146 156 234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356

and 456 ------ Good for online lottery

As you suggested filters will help bring it down - take out consecutive numbers (low hits), take out HHH (h=high) and LLL (l=low) and OOO (o=odd), EEE

(e=even) - now your left with 22 numbers - 015 016 025 026 035 036 045 046 056 125 126 136 145 146 156 235 236 245 246 256 346 356 - more

manageable

Thanks for the info, very good work,

Need4Win
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Apr 22, 2012, 4:13 pm

New York last night was 146, so play

025 027 029 035 037 038 039 057 058 059 078 079 089 235 237 238 239 257 258 259 278 279 289 358 378 389 (26 -- numbers) minus 089 (in red,

consective number) leaves 25 numbers. - NY bet $1 Box = $25 if we win $80 --- profit = $55 ---- Online bet $25 if we win $150 --- profit = $125

GOOD LUCK TO WHOEVER PLAYS IT --- I know I am ...
JKING

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Apr 22, 2012, 7:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by need4win on Apr 22, 2012
Hi J King;

Yes this system is simpler but there are 35 wagers per game not 15. Lets say 789 hits, then your 7 numbers are- 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 with the following bets

012 013 014 015 016 023 024 025 026 034 035 036 045 046 056 123 124 125 126 134 135 136 145 146 156 234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356

and 456 ------ Good for online lottery

As you suggested filters will help bring it down - take out consecutive numbers (low hits), take out HHH (h=high) and LLL (l=low) and OOO (o=odd), EEE

(e=even) - now your left with 22 numbers - 015 016 025 026 035 036 045 046 056 125 126 136 145 146 156 235 236 245 246 256 346 356 - more

manageable

Thanks for the info, very good work,

Need4Win

Thanks for the reply, compliment, and the math correction need4win.

However, I would track it a few times befor you start dropping money...theory vs practice.

Retxx ...I don't have the current tracking info for your request.

I am applying the concept to the bigger jackpot games. I just wanted to see how it tracked in a pick 3 enviroment.

You are a slave to the choices you have made. jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find an acorn.

There is no elevator to success, you will have to take the stairs.
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Apr 22, 2012, 7:57 pm

JKing and Need4win,

Played Wisconsin Pick 3 for first time. Got very close with "621". Needed "618" and it was one of the possible combinations. It will be fun to try again....... as long as those pesky numbers don't repeat. lol.

Thank you,

BD

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