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Boney526

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Jun 2, 2012, 8:07 pm

If you do the math, you'll find that you have a bigger expected loss using such a system, because you'll be very likely to win small amounts, but have a small chance of losing enormous amounts.

Think about 6 losses.

The first time you lose 5, then 15, 45, 135, 405, 1215 for a total loss of 1820.
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Jun 2, 2012, 9:56 pm

Youve' got it, Boney526.

Double up (usually it's double up, not triple) and catch up systems are called "Martingales". They are darlings of sytem sellers and usually come with a yarn that's an exercise in sell the sizzle and not the steak. "My parents had to escape from Cuba and to pay for passage on a boat taught the boat captain this system....."

One of the reasons for house limits is to to kill these kind of systems systems and make sure that someone with very deep pockets couldn't ensure a win, even if they were crazy enough to play like that.

Whatever denomination someone is betting (money amount) they would bet 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024.....ooops, let's say the house limit is $1,000 and they've been betting dollars. Even if the house booked the 1024 and they won, they would have risked that much to show a gain of 1 unit. That's nuts.

On the other side of the coin, the Horseshoe in Vegas used to advertise "No limit craps" but truth be known if somoen had enough guts to put a dollar on the pass line or in the field and let it ride and caught a streak, the $10,000 limit kicked in.

Another "rest of the story" aspect of no limit craps was that if you wanted really high action your first bet established your limit.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Jun 3, 2012, 8:35 am

I usually only focus on the 2nd Column & 3rd Column.

When the numbers lands in those ranges. Usually Win or atleast Break Even.

When the numbers lands outside those ranges. Ends up Losing.

"You have to be in it to win it!"
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Jun 3, 2012, 12:54 pm

Ok, I see you can only bet 0 thur 36 I found that out yesterday when watching everyone play at the Casino. I didn't play I just watched. So 2,5,19,17

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/233413 Popular numbers

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67890

Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s. Flip 6=9 `9=6 Bullseyes 0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5 Play the other part of doubles. Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5* or 0 thur 9 for P. 4 P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days. Good Luck All.
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Jun 3, 2012, 12:56 pm

Quote: Originally posted by SergeM on May 31, 2012
That's 0 to 36.

Ok, thanks!!

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/233413 Popular numbers

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67890

Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s. Flip 6=9 `9=6 Bullseyes 0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5 Play the other part of doubles. Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5* or 0 thur 9 for P. 4 P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days. Good Luck All.
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Jun 5, 2012, 5:15 pm

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Peter00

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Jun 7, 2012, 11:08 am

Quote: Originally posted by SergeM on Jun 2, 2012
There is a probability for this.

You seem to be sure, are you referring to some only casino?

casino next to me is completelty automated. no real dealers. also you get free spins on roulete where there are no people and noone betting. so all you realy need is a great system...

atlas shrugged.
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Jun 7, 2012, 12:54 pm

What do you mean by "you get free spins"?
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Jun 7, 2012, 2:15 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Boney526 on Jun 7, 2012
What do you mean by "you get free spins"?

free spin means:

lets say i'm in a.c. and no one is at the table beting . i would have to pay for every spin . they dont roll the ball without money on the table.

at the racino you dont have to . you put money into the machine but dont bet and the wheel spins .

in other words you can watch the game progress without actually betting...

AS FOR DOUBLING UP.....

its a system that works if you have the money for it

a better system is to play for better pay outs like 3:1 like roulette coulumns and rows or even number bets 1:36.

if your doubling up maybe its time to rethink your game. when your playing $6000 on a $5 win after doubling up consecutively you learn that it sucks especially when you lose . in roulette the trend of columns and rows is there is no trend. wait for a couple of trends tohappen hen play agaisnst any trend . the 50 50 bets are differnet. i wait till 8 in a row. this sounds like a long wait but there are three 5050 games happeneingat thesame time. red/black. high/low. and odd/even. you still wait but its 3 times faster than baccarat (player banker) . learn to program . you can chart the game on your phone. i use mine all the time . nothing like real time analysis while your playing.

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Jun 7, 2012, 2:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on May 31, 2012
A very attractive woman is watching a hi-roller playing roulette and he has quite a few chips in front of him. He notices her and gives her a $100 one and says, "Bet this on your age, I have a feeling it's going to hit." She puts it on 26. The ball lands on 36 and she passes out.

LOL
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Jun 11, 2012, 8:56 pm

Quote: Originally posted by SergeM on May 31, 2012
Anyone with ideas on red black play at roulette?

Greetings Serge, et al Rouletta Aficianados from Baden Baden to Mar del Plata LOL

With regard to a most interesting new roulette phonemona that's strightforward & easy back test without any risk. My friend recentely was on holiday @ St Vincent, Italy reported he was most satisfied with results from wheel display Marquee.

THE NEW 30 REPEATER PHONEMONA *Chart & gather a 30 spin continuous column of past live roulette occurances.

*Select the first *7 or 8 non repeating numbers.

*Play starts w/above selected on spin #31 for the next *7 or 8 spins.

*Stop on hit, repeat procedure (possible to continue, further testing required) Depending on personal preferenced & bank roll, a power progression can be effectively applied.

If flat betting is used, the 7th winning wager will not recover w/profit. Works on all fair wheels: live, unbiased Rapid Roulette, Air Ball, Bally's electronic, 0 or 0/00 wheels biased or unbiased>>>

So far this has been spot on (non statistical) against these roulette testers: on-line live Spielbank, Zumma, Monte Carlo Permenances, personal pp's with initial success as early results demonstrate potential above odds results - but not each & every time mind you.

Recommending testing application only

Would appreciate see actual trial feedback that ca be shared with forum

Where the ball keeps spinning

Bonne Chance

EddessaKnight
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Jun 12, 2012, 6:13 pm

Quote: Originally posted by eddessaknight on Jun 11, 2012
Greetings Serge, et al Rouletta Aficianados from Baden Baden to Mar del Plata LOL

With regard to a most interesting new roulette phonemona that's strightforward & easy back test without any risk. My friend recentely was on holiday @ St Vincent, Italy reported he was most satisfied with results from wheel display Marquee.

THE NEW 30 REPEATER PHONEMONA *Chart & gather a 30 spin continuous column of past live roulette occurances.

*Select the first *7 or 8 non repeating numbers.

*Play starts w/above selected on spin #31 for the next *7 or 8 spins.

*Stop on hit, repeat procedure (possible to continue, further testing required) Depending on personal preferenced & bank roll, a power progression can be effectively applied.

If flat betting is used, the 7th winning wager will not recover w/profit. Works on all fair wheels: live, unbiased Rapid Roulette, Air Ball, Bally's electronic, 0 or 0/00 wheels biased or unbiased>>>

So far this has been spot on (non statistical) against these roulette testers: on-line live Spielbank, Zumma, Monte Carlo Permenances, personal pp's with initial success as early results demonstrate potential above odds results - but not each & every time mind you.

Recommending testing application only

Would appreciate see actual trial feedback that ca be shared with forum

Where the ball keeps spinning

Bonne Chance

EddessaKnight

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SergeM

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Jun 12, 2012, 6:38 pm

Quote: Originally posted by eddessaknight on Jun 11, 2012
Greetings Serge, et al Rouletta Aficianados from Baden Baden to Mar del Plata LOL

With regard to a most interesting new roulette phonemona that's strightforward & easy back test without any risk. My friend recentely was on holiday @ St Vincent, Italy reported he was most satisfied with results from wheel display Marquee.

THE NEW 30 REPEATER PHONEMONA *Chart & gather a 30 spin continuous column of past live roulette occurances.

*Select the first *7 or 8 non repeating numbers.

*Play starts w/above selected on spin #31 for the next *7 or 8 spins.

*Stop on hit, repeat procedure (possible to continue, further testing required) Depending on personal preferenced & bank roll, a power progression can be effectively applied.

If flat betting is used, the 7th winning wager will not recover w/profit. Works on all fair wheels: live, unbiased Rapid Roulette, Air Ball, Bally's electronic, 0 or 0/00 wheels biased or unbiased>>>

So far this has been spot on (non statistical) against these roulette testers: on-line live Spielbank, Zumma, Monte Carlo Permenances, personal pp's with initial success as early results demonstrate potential above odds results - but not each & every time mind you.

Recommending testing application only

Would appreciate see actual trial feedback that ca be shared with forum

Where the ball keeps spinning

Bonne Chance

EddessaKnight

30 spins history:
7 first non repeating numbers to play, spin 31 to 38.
Budget needed: 7*8*2 euro = 112 euros
7*8=56 straight bets. Win: 35+1=36, 36*2 = 72 euros.

You need to win latest with the fifth spin, spin 35, to break even.
After that you need to raise the bet for spin 7 and/or 8.

With the raise your budget is 7b*2e*5s+7b*4e*3s=€154.
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Jun 13, 2012, 8:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by SergeM on Jun 12, 2012
30 spins history:
7 first non repeating numbers to play, spin 31 to 38.
Budget needed: 7*8*2 euro = 112 euros
7*8=56 straight bets. Win: 35+1=36, 36*2 = 72 euros.

You need to win latest with the fifth spin, spin 35, to break even.
After that you need to raise the bet for spin 7 and/or 8.

With the raise your budget is 7b*2e*5s+7b*4e*3s=€154.

Serge, Do appreciate the reponse with valuable analytical feedback

Did you have a chance to check out these potential occurances vs Speilbank etc.???

Naturally best to get a hit & stop a winner within 3 to 5 spins (using 0/00 wheel)

Agree, a mild progression needed on 7 numbers : ex 1- 1-1 -2- 2

Spin 1 +29 Chips

Spin 2 +22

Spin 3 +16

Spin 4 + 37

Spin 6 + 23

Subtotals Average = profit @ approx 25 units so a winning strike of 66% is required to make a profit

Serge as you operate an analystical program for Roulette in Excel - can you extrapolate a expected projection???

Or alternatively a power progresssion on 7 numbers: 2-3-4-5-6

S'll vous plait ami, using the first 7 numbers @ 66% of the repeating 30 numbers concept, do we have a positive expectaion ???

Thanks in advance for your professional expertise & participation and any strategy suggestions

Bonne Chance,

EddessaKnight
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Jun 14, 2012, 3:31 am

1) If you don't win the first round, you are out of money;

2) if you lost the second round, you are in deficit;

3) it didn't work on my sample with 3 plays.

4) I found something that worked, but that isn't related to your system.

5) I am not a pro gambler, but have seen professionals playing.

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