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Posted: November 10, 2012, 9:10 pm - IP Logged

Are you working on such a system/strategy?  If successful, it could become your day job.

The strategy is simple, arrange the winning numbers from the first MM drawing (since the last matrix change) into a 2 if 5 wheel in an order that shows a five number match. Then check to see if there were more five numbers matches and do the same with the next drawings or you could start with the last drawing and go backwards.

It would at least be a month job getting all the data.

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    The strategy is simple, arrange the winning numbers from the first MM drawing (since the last matrix change) into a 2 if 5 wheel in an order that shows a five number match. Then check to see if there were more five numbers matches and do the same with the next drawings or you could start with the last drawing and go backwards.

    It would at least be a month job getting all the data.

    What kind of data do you need?  Lists of both MM and PB previous results including the results before their name changed are available at USAMega.  If that was the hardest part then someone would have already done it.

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      What kind of data do you need?  Lists of both MM and PB previous results including the results before their name changed are available at USAMega.  If that was the hardest part then someone would have already done it.

      Somehow I think a month of full time work is the hard part.... Can you please volunteer RJOh, ... What?


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        Set of 39 for PB. Sat. Nov. 10, 2012.

        01 02 03 07 08 09 10 12 13 14 15 17 18 21 22 23 25 26 28 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 43 44 45 46 47 48 51 53 55 57 58

        2 of 5 on this PB draw..........

        Saturday, November 10, 2012     32 · 42 · 50 · 54 · 55    32$168 Million


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          2 of 5 on this PB draw..........

          Saturday, November 10, 2012     32 · 42 · 50 · 54 · 55    32$168 Million

          You made the "Almost Made It" list!   Hurray!


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            You made the "Almost Made It" list!   Hurray!

            Well there you go...... This is exactly why I don't play the PB 2 if 5 wheel in live play.....

            It would cost $50. to get a 2 number match ONLY if all 5 winners are present in the list if 39........


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              As I have said before, I would rather play $113 on MM and GET 113 lines,

              than waste my time playing $50. on PB for 25 lines.

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                Somehow I think a month of full time work is the hard part.... Can you please volunteer RJOh, ... What?

                A month of full time work doing what?  I already have all the MM results going back to when it was the BigGame and the PB results going to when it first started.  Besides, I never volunteer to work for anybody but myself.

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                  Thank Q tOO all the 5 StarStarStarStarStar Winner$$$$$$

                  Tanks ever one 4 hepping D cause..........

                  Almost back 2 D 5 starzzzzz........

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                    What kind of data do you need?  Lists of both MM and PB previous results including the results before their name changed are available at USAMega.  If that was the hardest part then someone would have already done it.

                    I'm not talking about analysing drawing results, but checking to see if one order that produced a five number match in a 46 combo 2 if 5 wheel produced other or multiple five number matches.

                    "If that was the hardest part then someone would have already done it."

                    It's not difficult, but time consuming. For starters, there are 46 different orders that could show a five number match in a 46 combo wheel simply based on how the numbers are entered into the wheel. Since the idea is to compare which order matches other orders with five number matches, one would have to compare all 46 orders with each each winning combo in the game history.

                    Friday's numbers would be placed in the line 1 order, 01-02-18-24-41 and then check the remaining 46 lines with all the results. Then place them into the line 2 order and again check all the results. When Ronnie and others matched five of 28 numbers on one of the lines in a 4 if 4 wheel, but not every time, it was because of the order the numbers were entered into the wheel.

                    Years ago when I had a four number match using a 4 if 6 wheel playing one of the Ohio Lotto games I noticed had I entered the numbers in a different order, I would have two more four number matches. I used a 16 number abbreviated wheel because I didn't know which of the 16 numbers would be drawn. By not knowing which four would be drawn, the order they were entered was irrelevant because I couldn't enter them in the same order.

                    This 46 combo wheel uses all the numbers and each of the bonus can be used too. And probably wagering $46 a drawing is not something most $5 or less a drawing player would be interested in doing or spend the time analysing the data.

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                      I'm not talking about analysing drawing results, but checking to see if one order that produced a five number match in a 46 combo 2 if 5 wheel produced other or multiple five number matches.

                      "If that was the hardest part then someone would have already done it."

                      It's not difficult, but time consuming. For starters, there are 46 different orders that could show a five number match in a 46 combo wheel simply based on how the numbers are entered into the wheel. Since the idea is to compare which order matches other orders with five number matches, one would have to compare all 46 orders with each each winning combo in the game history.

                      Friday's numbers would be placed in the line 1 order, 01-02-18-24-41 and then check the remaining 46 lines with all the results. Then place them into the line 2 order and again check all the results. When Ronnie and others matched five of 28 numbers on one of the lines in a 4 if 4 wheel, but not every time, it was because of the order the numbers were entered into the wheel.

                      Years ago when I had a four number match using a 4 if 6 wheel playing one of the Ohio Lotto games I noticed had I entered the numbers in a different order, I would have two more four number matches. I used a 16 number abbreviated wheel because I didn't know which of the 16 numbers would be drawn. By not knowing which four would be drawn, the order they were entered was irrelevant because I couldn't enter them in the same order.

                      This 46 combo wheel uses all the numbers and each of the bonus can be used too. And probably wagering $46 a drawing is not something most $5 or less a drawing player would be interested in doing or spend the time analysing the data.

                      If you have a copy of the wheel and a number swapping program then you can do that fairly easy. 

                      For example if the wheel has a combination 1 2 3 4 5 then you simply switch 1 =01, 2=02, 3=18, 4=24, 5=41 and  if it has  a combination 6 7 8 9 10 then you could switch them for another winning combinations and etc.  If the wheel has 10 unique combinations then you could switch 10 unique combinations or where the same numbers are in several combinations fit in even more combinations. 

                      After you had done that, you would know what could have happened in past drawings but I don't know how it could help you going forward with future drawings.

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                        If you have a copy of the wheel and a number swapping program then you can do that fairly easy. 

                        For example if the wheel has a combination 1 2 3 4 5 then you simply switch 1 =01, 2=02, 3=18, 4=24, 5=41 and  if it has  a combination 6 7 8 9 10 then you could switch them for another winning combinations and etc.  If the wheel has 10 unique combinations then you could switch 10 unique combinations or where the same numbers are in several combinations fit in even more combinations. 

                        After you had done that, you would know what could have happened in past drawings but I don't know how it could help you going forward with future drawings.

                        Im not sure either RJOh

                        Aside from a stroke of luck, the only way to get BETTER ODDS with a wheel is to use fewer numbers.


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                          Using a 2 if 5 of 56 wheel made it relatively easy to hit 3 of 5 but the odds of hitting all 5 winning numbers were still way way out there odds wise. Even reducing the pool to 20 was extremely long odds.


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                            Using a 2 if 5 of 56 wheel made it relatively easy to hit 3 of 5 but the odds of hitting all 5 winning numbers were still way way out there odds wise. Even reducing the pool to 20 was extremely long odds.

                            The smallest pool I can find that will produce a 5 of 5 match occasionally is 18 numbers. And because 18 numbers is too large a pool to play 4 if 4 consistently, at least 6 of those numbers need to be eliminated.


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                              Playing a 4 if 4 of 12 wheel on every MM draw will cost $11,752. annually.

                                 
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