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Posted: June 19, 2012, 11:53 pm - IP Logged

First off, Hello im new here :) 

My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
 we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

 

Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;) 

but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

 

i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

For the fantasy5   5/36

If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)   

so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

 

 when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.   
 

There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

Thanks.

Dawn

(working on posting a pic)

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    You have re-invented the Gail Howard Chart E: Ten Game Group Count (tm) most of us call it Decades.

    BobP

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      I have worked around with that method for a while.  I use it like playing keno... I take a stack of play slips and mark all the number draw for the past 6 months.. and watch how the numbers are drawn... It is so much like Keno..

      when doing the 102... system..  I would recover money spent.. Nothing big won...

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        If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

        you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)

         

        i have tried that...its a good idea...i have tried many things...this was one of those "extra things" that just took to much extra time...as i streamline my visualization process i may go back to it...

        i dont know if you know how to use excel but what you may want to do is take each category...ie

        1022  1220  0113  0212  0032   and put it in columns then count down by days and try to find the flag formation for each pattern...this is easier said then done and may take trial and error...

        there is a website that i can PM you later that tracks these combos...but they do it by thirds ie 1 2 2   or  3 1 0...i have subscribed in the past...and i was able to enter the 1 2 2 or 3 1 0 info into excel...but i stopped doing it as it take times...you need to find shortcuts in excel do do this faster and i used to run out of time because i stared at the charts too long.

        i still track the ten game group count or decades in my matrix walk chart and one of the patterns i try to bank on is 3020 or any combination of double zero or no score decades...as it often also hits in a flag formation.

        i would post the website here but if it is on TODDs banned list of websites, then my message will be deleted...and i hate to waste time...BobP and Tntea are probably familiar with this website...and they would also probably know if LP has a similar decades/tengamegroup tracker.

        Good Luck and welcome to LP!

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          I know the site you are refering too.   I had someone here at LP to make a program earlier this year to produce the numbers for you.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/244068

           

          This saves lots of time.. Good luck

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            Here is PB

            DrawCode Range L(1-20) M(21-39) H(40-59)v11v12v13v14v15v22v23v24v25v33v34v35v44v45v55
            07 08 33 38 502oe 2oe 1e50.0708........33 38..
            09 12 20 44 593oee 0 2eo..20.09 59.12.......44
            01 07 11 55 563ooo 0 2oe5501 5607..11.........
            10 24 35 53 581e 2eo 2oe.10.35 53 58.......24...
            03 07 21 28 432oo 2oe 1o..0703..21...28..43.
            08 13 35 46 512eo 1o 2eo.51.08 35...1346......
            04 07 26 53 592eo 1e 2oo..075304 59.26........
            09 10 24 52 562oe 1e 2ee.10 5652.09......24...
            09 10 17 29 453oeo 1o 1o.10..09 45.17....29...
            19 30 33 48 591o 2eo 2eo...3059...19...3348.
            18 22 45 56 571e 1e 3oeo.5657.45..18.22.....
            07 10 14 33 573oee 1o 1o.1007 57.....14...33..
            08 14 15 16 274eeoe 1o 0.15.08.16..1427.....

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              Here is PB

              DrawCode Range L(1-20) M(21-39) H(40-59)v11v12v13v14v15v22v23v24v25v33v34v35v44v45v55
              07 08 33 38 502oe 2oe 1e50.0708........33 38..
              09 12 20 44 593oee 0 2eo..20.09 59.12.......44
              01 07 11 55 563ooo 0 2oe5501 5607..11.........
              10 24 35 53 581e 2eo 2oe.10.35 53 58.......24...
              03 07 21 28 432oo 2oe 1o..0703..21...28..43.
              08 13 35 46 512eo 1o 2eo.51.08 35...1346......
              04 07 26 53 592eo 1e 2oo..075304 59.26........
              09 10 24 52 562oe 1e 2ee.10 5652.09......24...
              09 10 17 29 453oeo 1o 1o.10..09 45.17....29...
              19 30 33 48 591o 2eo 2eo...3059...19...3348.
              18 22 45 56 571e 1e 3oeo.5657.45..18.22.....
              07 10 14 33 573oee 1o 1o.1007 57.....14...33..
              08 14 15 16 274eeoe 1o 0.15.08.16..1427.....

              I am going to guess the next pattern to be  1o1o3eeo

              One odd number from (1-20)... Odd only...

              One odd number from (21-39)  .. Odd only..

              Three numbers from (40-59)  First two need to be even and last one odd...  The odd must be higher than the two even numbers in this group...

              Post your picks here....

              Mine are:

               

              05,33, 42,54,57

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                Cool.. i always thought i would have re invented the wheel or somthing to make me money haha.. I will read up on this decades stuff, sounds interesting.

                might help me to figure out exactly what i am looking at.  thanks for the info.

                 

                I have one of gails books from 2009 or 10?

                Thats how we learned all the charts.       I dont quite understand the chart posted here though.. My brain sorta shuts off when i see things like that, but im going to try and learn it...       i work with 0-9  (5/36)  pen and paper. No idea on my picks for tonight.   Im totally stuck in the middle of 0's being in or out.. my gut says out. but my chart says its in.     maybe i will run with both. 

                 

                Still trying to figure out what block of 9 will be empty.  If i remember right, last night  was a 2012.   and the 0032 the night before.

                My original  "guess" was calling for a 1 0 3 1  tonight but  i may rotate that to a 1 3 01     ..darn numbers make me nutso some times lol

                 

                 

                Nice to meet you guys! :)

                 

                Edit to add... i get the idea of the chart posted but what is the V numbers for?

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                  Cool.. i always thought i would have re invented the wheel or somthing to make me money haha.. I will read up on this decades stuff, sounds interesting.

                  might help me to figure out exactly what i am looking at.  thanks for the info.

                   

                  I have one of gails books from 2009 or 10?

                  Thats how we learned all the charts.       I dont quite understand the chart posted here though.. My brain sorta shuts off when i see things like that, but im going to try and learn it...       i work with 0-9  (5/36)  pen and paper. No idea on my picks for tonight.   Im totally stuck in the middle of 0's being in or out.. my gut says out. but my chart says its in.     maybe i will run with both. 

                   

                  Still trying to figure out what block of 9 will be empty.  If i remember right, last night  was a 2012.   and the 0032 the night before.

                  My original  "guess" was calling for a 1 0 3 1  tonight but  i may rotate that to a 1 3 01     ..darn numbers make me nutso some times lol

                   

                   

                  Nice to meet you guys! :)

                   

                  Edit to add... i get the idea of the chart posted but what is the V numbers for?

                  Hi ,I'd just mention that time ago I had a look ,very deep one,at the

                  history of CA Fantasy 5.Did because i've noticed something strangely interesting and

                  because it seemed to me so perfectly balanced..too perfectly

                  Ok ,I give you an advice to pay attention to the sync pairs of numbers -such a pairs are those

                  ones which have multiple last appearances(two at least ) always together ,and when the current

                  skip is >10 draws  use the numbers of the pair ,their complemental numbers and the restant numbers

                  of the digital ending groups which was present in that same draw from where the sync overdue

                  started.The wheels obtained like this are 1)not so big,2)forfoulds are not rarity at all,3)adding some key

                  numbers of too hot/cold type a second of the current draw picture  may asure "that dreamed BIG".....you know Wink  Good Luck

                  ...so I find my lottery earnings much useful......because spendable !!ROFL

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                    Posted: June 21, 2012, 4:37 pm - IP Logged

                    First off, Hello im new here :) 

                    My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
                     we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

                     

                    Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

                    and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;) 

                    but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

                     

                    i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

                    For the fantasy5   5/36

                    If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

                    you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)   

                    so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

                     

                     when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.   
                     

                    There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

                    Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

                    Thanks.

                    Dawn

                    (working on posting a pic)

                    (working on posting a pic)

                     

                    Looking forward to seeing the picture...

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                      Ok here is the chart i was talking about...lol pay no mind to my side scribbling. 

                       

                       

                      maychrt

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                        Based on my june chart  im going with  a 2201 for tonights draw.   eliminating 19 20 21 25 26 27 31 32 33

                        That may change, as i am still doing numbers for another hour or two.

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                          Posted: June 22, 2012, 4:19 pm - IP Logged

                          First off, Hello im new here :) 

                          My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
                           we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

                           

                          Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

                          and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;) 

                          but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

                           

                          i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

                          For the fantasy5   5/36

                          If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

                          you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)   

                          so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

                           

                           when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.   
                           

                          There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

                          Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

                          Thanks.

                          Dawn

                          (working on posting a pic)

                          You haven't tried anything so far. You only try to put four groups into picture. You want to invent the stone wheel.


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                            Based on my june chart  im going with  a 2201 for tonights draw.   eliminating 19 20 21 25 26 27 31 32 33

                            That may change, as i am still doing numbers for another hour or two.

                            this is what i coin a matrix walk chart...numbers generall move from right to less or greater to smaller...so 9  8  7...

                            also pink are flag formations...they are quite reliable... it is read from top to bottom...

                            hope you can narrow it down a little with this...good luck...these are the last 20 florida draws...

                            6/2/12

                            5536

                            5

                            12

                            16

                            24

                            29

                            -2

                            -4

                            -2

                            -5

                            0

                            -6

                            -13

                            -8

                            -1

                            -11

                            -8

                            0

                            -3

                            -20

                            -6

                            0

                            -5

                            -10

                            -1

                            -4

                            -2

                            -19

                            -1

                            0

                            -16

                            -1

                            -3

                            -5

                            0

                            -6

                            -3

                            -4

                            -2

                            -8

                            -19

                            -7

                            6/3/12

                            5537

                            17

                            21

                            22

                            26

                            34

                            -3

                            -5

                            -3

                            -6

                            -1

                            -7

                            -14

                            -9

                            -2

                            -12

                            -9

                            -1

                            -4

                            -21

                            -7

                            -1

                            0

                            -11

                            -2

                            -5

                            0

                            0

                            -2

                            -1

                            -17

                            0

                            -4

                            -6

                            -1

                            -7

                            -4

                            -5

                            -3

                            0

                            -20

                            -8

                            6/4/12

                            5538

                            2

                            11

                            28

                            29

                            30

                            -4

                            0

                            -4

                            -7

                            -2

                            -8

                            -15

                            -10

                            -3

                            -13

                            0

                            -2

                            -5

                            -22

                            -8

                            -2

                            -1

                            -12

                            -3

                            -6

                            -1

                            -1

                            -3

                            -2

                            -18

                            -1

                            -5

                            0

                            0

                            0

                            -5

                            -6

                            -4

                            -1

                            -21

                            -9

                            6/5/12

                            5539

                            1

                            5

                            7

                            19

                            27

                            0

                            -1

                            -5

                            -8

                            0

                            -9

                            0

                            -11

                            -4

                            -14

                            -1

                            -3

                            -6

                            -23

                            -9

                            -3

                            -2

                            -13

                            0

                            -7

                            -2

                            -2

                            -4

                            -3

                            -19

                            -2

                            0

                            -1

                            -1

                            -1

                            -6

                            -7

                            -5

                            -2

                            -22

                            -10

                            6/6/12

                            5540

                            8

                            13

                            16

                            22

                            24

                            -1

                            -2

                            -6

                            -9

                            -1

                            -10

                            -1

                            0

                            -5

                            -15

                            -2

                            -4

                            0

                            -24

                            -10

                            0

                            -3

                            -14

                            -1

                            -8

                            -3

                            0

                            -5

                            0

                            -20

                            -3

                            -1

                            -2

                            -2

                            -2

                            -7

                            -8

                            -6

                            -3

                            -23

                            -11

                            6/7/12

                            5541

                            3

                            10

                            11

                            13

                            27

                            -2

                            -3

                            0

                            -10

                            -2

                            -11

                            -2

                            -1

                            -6

                            0

                            0

                            -5

                            0

                            -25

                            -11

                            -1

                            -4

                            -15

                            -2

                            -9

                            -4

                            -1

                            -6

                            -1

                            -21

                            -4

                            0

                            -3

                            -3

                            -3

                            -8

                            -9

                            -7

                            -4

                            -24

                            -12

                            6/8/12

                            5542

                            2

                            24

                            27

                            29

                            30

                            -3

                            0

                            -1

                            -11

                            -3

                            -12

                            -3

                            -2

                            -7

                            -1

                            -1

                            -6

                            -1

                            -26

                            -12

                            -2

                            -5

                            -16

                            -3

                            -10

                            -5

                            -2

                            -7

                            0

                            -22

                            -5

                            0

                            -4

                            0

                            0

                            -9

                            -10

                            -8

                            -5

                            -25

                            -13

                            6/9/12

                            5543

                            4

                            19

                            22

                            29

                            34

                            -4

                            -1

                            -2

                            0

                            -4

                            -13

                            -4

                            -3

                            -8

                            -2

                            -2

                            -7

                            -2

                            -27

                            -13

                            -3

                            -6

                            -17

                            0

                            -11

                            -6

                            0

                            -8

                            -1

                            -23

                            -6

                            -1

                            -5

                            0

                            -1

                            -10

                            -11

                            -9

                            0

                            -26

                            -14

                            6/10/12

                            5544

                            13

                            19

                            20

                            26

                            35

                            -5

                            -2

                            -3

                            -1

                            -5

                            -14

                            -5

                            -4

                            -9

                            -3

                            -3

                            -8

                            0

                            -28

                            -14

                            -4

                            -7

                            -18

                            0

                            0

                            -7

                            -1

                            -9

                            -2

                            -24

                            0

                            -2

                            -6

                            -1

                            -2

                            -11

                            -12

                            -10

                            -1

                            0

                            -15

                            6/11/12

                            5545

                            2

                            3

                            14

                            15

                            34

                            -6

                            0

                            0

                            -2

                            -6

                            -15

                            -6

                            -5

                            -10

                            -4

                            -4

                            -9

                            -1

                            0

                            0

                            -5

                            -8

                            -19

                            -1

                            -1

                            -8

                            -2

                            -10

                            -3

                            -25

                            -1

                            -3

                            -7

                            -2

                            -3

                            -12

                            -13

                            -11

                            0

                            -1

                            -16

                            6/12/12

                            5546

                            2

                            10

                            14

                            21

                            33

                            -7

                            0

                            -1

                            -3

                            -7

                            -16

                            -7

                            -6

                            -11

                            0

                            -5

                            -10

                            -2

                            0

                            -1

                            -6

                            -9

                            -20

                            -2

                            -2

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                              lottanumbers's avatar - Lottery-060.jpg
                              florida
                              United States
                              Member #129491
                              June 19, 2012
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                              Posted: June 22, 2012, 5:52 pm - IP Logged

                              You haven't tried anything so far. You only try to put four groups into picture. You want to invent the stone wheel.

                              I have no idea what you are talking about. sorry.