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florida
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First off, Hello im new here :)

My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;)

but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

For the fantasy5   5/36

If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)

so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.

There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

Thanks.

Dawn

(working on posting a pic)

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You have re-invented the Gail Howard Chart E: Ten Game Group Count (tm) most of us call it Decades.

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I have worked around with that method for a while.  I use it like playing keno... I take a stack of play slips and mark all the number draw for the past 6 months.. and watch how the numbers are drawn... It is so much like Keno..

when doing the 102... system..  I would recover money spent.. Nothing big won...

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If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)

i have tried that...its a good idea...i have tried many things...this was one of those "extra things" that just took to much extra time...as i streamline my visualization process i may go back to it...

i dont know if you know how to use excel but what you may want to do is take each category...ie

1022  1220  0113  0212  0032   and put it in columns then count down by days and try to find the flag formation for each pattern...this is easier said then done and may take trial and error...

there is a website that i can PM you later that tracks these combos...but they do it by thirds ie 1 2 2   or  3 1 0...i have subscribed in the past...and i was able to enter the 1 2 2 or 3 1 0 info into excel...but i stopped doing it as it take times...you need to find shortcuts in excel do do this faster and i used to run out of time because i stared at the charts too long.

i still track the ten game group count or decades in my matrix walk chart and one of the patterns i try to bank on is 3020 or any combination of double zero or no score decades...as it often also hits in a flag formation.

i would post the website here but if it is on TODDs banned list of websites, then my message will be deleted...and i hate to waste time...BobP and Tntea are probably familiar with this website...and they would also probably know if LP has a similar decades/tengamegroup tracker.

Good Luck and welcome to LP!

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I know the site you are refering too.   I had someone here at LP to make a program earlier this year to produce the numbers for you.

This saves lots of time.. Good luck

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Here is PB

 Draw Code Range L(1-20) M(21-39) H(40-59) v11 v12 v13 v14 v15 v22 v23 v24 v25 v33 v34 v35 v44 v45 v55 07 08 33 38 50 2oe 2oe 1e 50 . 07 08 . . . . . . . . 33 38 . . 09 12 20 44 59 3oee 0 2eo . . 20 . 09 59 . 12 . . . . . . . 44 01 07 11 55 56 3ooo 0 2oe 55 01 56 07 . . 11 . . . . . . . . . 10 24 35 53 58 1e 2eo 2oe . 10 . 35 53 58 . . . . . . . 24 . . . 03 07 21 28 43 2oo 2oe 1o . . 07 03 . . 21 . . . 28 . . 43 . 08 13 35 46 51 2eo 1o 2eo . 51 . 08 35 . . . 13 46 . . . . . . 04 07 26 53 59 2eo 1e 2oo . . 07 53 04 59 . 26 . . . . . . . . 09 10 24 52 56 2oe 1e 2ee . 10 56 52 . 09 . . . . . . 24 . . . 09 10 17 29 45 3oeo 1o 1o . 10 . . 09 45 . 17 . . . . 29 . . . 19 30 33 48 59 1o 2eo 2eo . . . 30 59 . . . 19 . . . 33 48 . 18 22 45 56 57 1e 1e 3oeo . 56 57 . 45 . . 18 . 22 . . . . . 07 10 14 33 57 3oee 1o 1o . 10 07 57 . . . . . 14 . . . 33 . . 08 14 15 16 27 4eeoe 1o 0 . 15 . 08 . 16 . . 14 27 . . . . .

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Here is PB

 Draw Code Range L(1-20) M(21-39) H(40-59) v11 v12 v13 v14 v15 v22 v23 v24 v25 v33 v34 v35 v44 v45 v55 07 08 33 38 50 2oe 2oe 1e 50 . 07 08 . . . . . . . . 33 38 . . 09 12 20 44 59 3oee 0 2eo . . 20 . 09 59 . 12 . . . . . . . 44 01 07 11 55 56 3ooo 0 2oe 55 01 56 07 . . 11 . . . . . . . . . 10 24 35 53 58 1e 2eo 2oe . 10 . 35 53 58 . . . . . . . 24 . . . 03 07 21 28 43 2oo 2oe 1o . . 07 03 . . 21 . . . 28 . . 43 . 08 13 35 46 51 2eo 1o 2eo . 51 . 08 35 . . . 13 46 . . . . . . 04 07 26 53 59 2eo 1e 2oo . . 07 53 04 59 . 26 . . . . . . . . 09 10 24 52 56 2oe 1e 2ee . 10 56 52 . 09 . . . . . . 24 . . . 09 10 17 29 45 3oeo 1o 1o . 10 . . 09 45 . 17 . . . . 29 . . . 19 30 33 48 59 1o 2eo 2eo . . . 30 59 . . . 19 . . . 33 48 . 18 22 45 56 57 1e 1e 3oeo . 56 57 . 45 . . 18 . 22 . . . . . 07 10 14 33 57 3oee 1o 1o . 10 07 57 . . . . . 14 . . . 33 . . 08 14 15 16 27 4eeoe 1o 0 . 15 . 08 . 16 . . 14 27 . . . . .

I am going to guess the next pattern to be  1o1o3eeo

One odd number from (1-20)... Odd only...

One odd number from (21-39)  .. Odd only..

Three numbers from (40-59)  First two need to be even and last one odd...  The odd must be higher than the two even numbers in this group...

Mine are:

05,33, 42,54,57

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Cool.. i always thought i would have re invented the wheel or somthing to make me money haha.. I will read up on this decades stuff, sounds interesting.

might help me to figure out exactly what i am looking at.  thanks for the info.

I have one of gails books from 2009 or 10?

Thats how we learned all the charts.       I dont quite understand the chart posted here though.. My brain sorta shuts off when i see things like that, but im going to try and learn it...       i work with 0-9  (5/36)  pen and paper. No idea on my picks for tonight.   Im totally stuck in the middle of 0's being in or out.. my gut says out. but my chart says its in.     maybe i will run with both.

Still trying to figure out what block of 9 will be empty.  If i remember right, last night  was a 2012.   and the 0032 the night before.

My original  "guess" was calling for a 1 0 3 1  tonight but  i may rotate that to a 1 3 01     ..darn numbers make me nutso some times lol

Nice to meet you guys! :)

Edit to add... i get the idea of the chart posted but what is the V numbers for?

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Cool.. i always thought i would have re invented the wheel or somthing to make me money haha.. I will read up on this decades stuff, sounds interesting.

might help me to figure out exactly what i am looking at.  thanks for the info.

I have one of gails books from 2009 or 10?

Thats how we learned all the charts.       I dont quite understand the chart posted here though.. My brain sorta shuts off when i see things like that, but im going to try and learn it...       i work with 0-9  (5/36)  pen and paper. No idea on my picks for tonight.   Im totally stuck in the middle of 0's being in or out.. my gut says out. but my chart says its in.     maybe i will run with both.

Still trying to figure out what block of 9 will be empty.  If i remember right, last night  was a 2012.   and the 0032 the night before.

My original  "guess" was calling for a 1 0 3 1  tonight but  i may rotate that to a 1 3 01     ..darn numbers make me nutso some times lol

Nice to meet you guys! :)

Edit to add... i get the idea of the chart posted but what is the V numbers for?

Hi ,I'd just mention that time ago I had a look ,very deep one,at the

history of CA Fantasy 5.Did because i've noticed something strangely interesting and

because it seemed to me so perfectly balanced..too perfectly

Ok ,I give you an advice to pay attention to the sync pairs of numbers -such a pairs are those

ones which have multiple last appearances(two at least ) always together ,and when the current

skip is >10 draws  use the numbers of the pair ,their complemental numbers and the restant numbers

of the digital ending groups which was present in that same draw from where the sync overdue

started.The wheels obtained like this are 1)not so big,2)forfoulds are not rarity at all,3)adding some key

numbers of too hot/cold type a second of the current draw picture  may asure "that dreamed BIG".....you know   Good Luck

...so I find my lottery earnings much useful......because spendable !!

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First off, Hello im new here :)

My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;)

but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

For the fantasy5   5/36

If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)

so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.

There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

Thanks.

Dawn

(working on posting a pic)

(working on posting a pic)

Looking forward to seeing the picture...

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Ok here is the chart i was talking about...lol pay no mind to my side scribbling.

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Based on my june chart  im going with  a 2201 for tonights draw.   eliminating 19 20 21 25 26 27 31 32 33

That may change, as i am still doing numbers for another hour or two.

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First off, Hello im new here :)

My sister an i have been messing with numbers (Pick5 n 6) on and off for a few years making the usual skip charts and all that..
we were trying some new things in order to get better results and that lead me to the current work in progress lol

Maybe its nothing, maybe its been done and called something else,  Either way I keep looking at this "chart"

and not sure what to make of it....   In one respect it gave us a chance to eliminate a block of 9 numbers from the game and that greatly helps us in getting 3/5  and free tickets.... for now ;)

but figuring out what block to eliminate can only be done after you come up with some decent numbers.

i'll try to explain it, then maybe someone can comment.

For the fantasy5   5/36

If you take a betting slip and fill it out using the past 10 drawings then make a box around each block of 9 numbers,

you will notice a pattern.    Most of the time there is 1 or 2 boxes that have no numbers at all.  if you keep filling out the betting slips and line them up week to week you begin to see:  1 0 2 2,  1 2 2 0,  0 1 1 3,  0 2 1 2,  0 0 3 2,  (each number representing a hit/s in  the box of 9)

so yes there are 5 numbers drawn, those numbers above will always equal 5 so that means nothing to me,   Its more like following a visual pattern of 0's to help determin what box of 9 to get rid of.   on some of those weeks were the skip charts seem to start correcting themselves, you will see 4 numbers in a box and only 1 in the other.  (the hardest to predict IMO)

when you have a months worth or more  in front of you it makes more sense i guess.

There are other patterns within that i notice but i will stick with trying to explain that for now and see what happens...

Wondering if anyone else had tried this?

Thanks.

Dawn

(working on posting a pic)

You haven't tried anything so far. You only try to put four groups into picture. You want to invent the stone wheel.

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Based on my june chart  im going with  a 2201 for tonights draw.   eliminating 19 20 21 25 26 27 31 32 33

That may change, as i am still doing numbers for another hour or two.

this is what i coin a matrix walk chart...numbers generall move from right to less or greater to smaller...so 9  8  7...

also pink are flag formations...they are quite reliable... it is read from top to bottom...

hope you can narrow it down a little with this...good luck...these are the last 20 florida draws...

 6/2/12 5536 5 12 16 24 29 -2 -4 -2 -5 0 -6 -13 -8 -1 -11 -8 0 -3 -20 -6 0 -5 -10 -1 -4 -2 -19 -1 0 -16 -1 -3 -5 0 -6 -3 -4 -2 -8 -19 -7 6/3/12 5537 17 21 22 26 34 -3 -5 -3 -6 -1 -7 -14 -9 -2 -12 -9 -1 -4 -21 -7 -1 0 -11 -2 -5 0 0 -2 -1 -17 0 -4 -6 -1 -7 -4 -5 -3 0 -20 -8 6/4/12 5538 2 11 28 29 30 -4 0 -4 -7 -2 -8 -15 -10 -3 -13 0 -2 -5 -22 -8 -2 -1 -12 -3 -6 -1 -1 -3 -2 -18 -1 -5 0 0 0 -5 -6 -4 -1 -21 -9 6/5/12 5539 1 5 7 19 27 0 -1 -5 -8 0 -9 0 -11 -4 -14 -1 -3 -6 -23 -9 -3 -2 -13 0 -7 -2 -2 -4 -3 -19 -2 0 -1 -1 -1 -6 -7 -5 -2 -22 -10 6/6/12 5540 8 13 16 22 24 -1 -2 -6 -9 -1 -10 -1 0 -5 -15 -2 -4 0 -24 -10 0 -3 -14 -1 -8 -3 0 -5 0 -20 -3 -1 -2 -2 -2 -7 -8 -6 -3 -23 -11 6/7/12 5541 3 10 11 13 27 -2 -3 0 -10 -2 -11 -2 -1 -6 0 0 -5 0 -25 -11 -1 -4 -15 -2 -9 -4 -1 -6 -1 -21 -4 0 -3 -3 -3 -8 -9 -7 -4 -24 -12 6/8/12 5542 2 24 27 29 30 -3 0 -1 -11 -3 -12 -3 -2 -7 -1 -1 -6 -1 -26 -12 -2 -5 -16 -3 -10 -5 -2 -7 0 -22 -5 0 -4 0 0 -9 -10 -8 -5 -25 -13 6/9/12 5543 4 19 22 29 34 -4 -1 -2 0 -4 -13 -4 -3 -8 -2 -2 -7 -2 -27 -13 -3 -6 -17 0 -11 -6 0 -8 -1 -23 -6 -1 -5 0 -1 -10 -11 -9 0 -26 -14 6/10/12 5544 13 19 20 26 35 -5 -2 -3 -1 -5 -14 -5 -4 -9 -3 -3 -8 0 -28 -14 -4 -7 -18 0 0 -7 -1 -9 -2 -24 0 -2 -6 -1 -2 -11 -12 -10 -1 0 -15 6/11/12 5545 2 3 14 15 34 -6 0 0 -2 -6 -15 -6 -5 -10 -4 -4 -9 -1 0 0 -5 -8 -19 -1 -1 -8 -2 -10 -3 -25 -1 -3 -7 -2 -3 -12 -13 -11 0 -1 -16 6/12/12 5546 2 10 14 21 33 -7 0 -1 -3 -7 -16 -7 -6 -11 0 -5 -10 -2 0 -1 -6 -9 -20 -2 -2 0 -3 -11 -4 -26 -2 -4 -8 -3 -4 -13 -14 0 -1 -2 -17 6/13/12 5547 25 27 28 31 34 -8 -1 -2 -4 -8 -17 -8 -7 -12 -1 -6 -11 -3 -1 -2 -7 -10 -21 -3 -3 -1 -4 -12 -5 0 -3 0 0 -4 -5 0 -15 -1 0 -3 -18 6/14/12 5548 16 17 23 33 35 -9 -2 -3 -5 -9 -18 -9 -8 -13 -2 -7 -12 -4 -2 -3 0 0 -22 -4 -4 -2 -5 0 -6 -1 -4 -1 -1 -5 -6 -1 -16 0 -1 0 -19 6/15/12 5549 10 21 23 28 36 -10 -3 -4 -6 -10 -19 -10 -9 -14 0 -8 -13 -5 -3 -4 -1 -1 -23 -5 -5 0 -6 0 -7 -2 -5 -2 0 -6 -7 -2 -17 -1 -2 -1 0 6/16/12 5550 6 8 17 32 33 -11 -4 -5 -7 -11 0 -11 0 -15 -1 -9 -14 -6 -4 -5 -2 0 -24 -6 -6 -1 -7 -1 -8 -3 -6 -3 -1 -7 -8 -3 0 0 -3 -2 -1 6/17/12 5551 2 9 29 30 33 -12 0 -6 -8 -12 -1 -12 -1 0 -2 -10 -15 -7 -5 -6 -3 -1 -25 -7 -7 -2 -8 -2 -9 -4 -7 -4 -2 0 0 -4 -1 0 -4 -3 -2 6/18/12 5552 21 22 26 29 32 -13 -1 -7 -9 -13 -2 -13 -2 -1 -3 -11 -16 -8 -6 -7 -4 -2 -26 -8 -8 0 0 -3 -10 -5 0 -5 -3 0 -1 -5 0 -1 -5 -4 -3 6/19/12 5553 13 15 22 27 28 -14 -2 -8 -10 -14 -3 -14 -3 -2 -4 -12 -17 0 -7 0 -5 -3 -27 -9 -9 -1 0 -4 -11 -6 -1 0 0 -1 -2 -6 -1 -2 -6 -5 -4 6/20/12 5554 2 16 17 28 31 -15 0 -9 -11 -15 -4 -15 -4 -3 -5 -13 -18 -1 -8 -1 0 0 -28 -10 -10 -2 -1 -5 -12 -7 -2 -1 0 -2 -3 0 -2 -3 -7 -6 -5 6/21/12 5555 1 4 16 21 22 0 -1 -10 0 -16 -5 -16 -5 -4 -6 -14 -19 -2 -9 -2 0 -1 -29 -11 -11 0 0 -6 -13 -8 -3 -2 -1 -3 -4 -1 -3 -4 -8 -7 -6 6/22/12 5556 ? ? ? ? ? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
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You haven't tried anything so far. You only try to put four groups into picture. You want to invent the stone wheel.

I have no idea what you are talking about. sorry.

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