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Fibonacci retracement process applied to Pick 5 - Process 1

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Charlotte
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Posted: September 14, 2012, 12:15 am - IP Logged

Ok group, here is something that I have been kicking around for some time.  I am wondering if some of you have seen similar ideas floated here before.  If you have, I would appreciate the advisement.  Otherwise, lets see what we can do....

While day trading the S&P Futures, I leaned how closely they consistantly retrace to certain Fibonacci levels.  For those of you who don't know what these are, they are essentially levels that are significant point of resistance where the price action may pull back to, and then bounce off of prior to advancing again.  They are often viewed as points in which the market must pull back to in order to "catch its breath".  These levels are generally at the following percentages: 23.6%, 38.2%, 50%, 61.8% 78.6%. 113%, 123.6%.

So, my multiplying the last drawn numbers, as yo can see I have correctly "calculate" 3 of the 5 numbers for the follow on drawing.

Example:

29-Aug716172533
28-Aug1014172127
123456
25791114
369111317
4811131721
51116192330

Now, is there refinement that needs to occure - absolutely!  I look forward to your comments!


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    Posted: September 14, 2012, 1:27 am - IP Logged

    Could you do a full mathematical calculation for retards like me?

    You multiplied the last drawn number by what?

    10 14 17 21 27

    multiplied by 23.6 %

    give you 2 3 4 5 6?  is that correct?

    So it appears you got 3/17 correct.  Thats quite a large wheel.

    Wheres my calculator?

    Thinking of...

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      Charlotte
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      Posted: September 14, 2012, 9:28 am - IP Logged

      Ok, so you will note that the bold and italisized number represent the individual rows of rounded resultants of the following calculations rows:

      1     23.6%

      2     50%

      3     61.8%

      4     78.6%

      5     113%


      So taking the prior days drawing, and multiplying it by 23.6% and rounding the results, you get the line one results of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.  I created this process in Excel for ease of analysis.  The truth be known, I went up to 8 rows, adding the following fib percentages to the calculation process:

      6     123.6%

      7     138.2%

      8     161.8%


      With adding this information, I obtained 4 out of 5 numbers drawn.  Call me crazy, but I was curious to known and was trying to understand with my analysis if there were Fib numbers in which the next drawing regularly appeared in.  For example, did row 2 with a 50% fib regularly calculate a number in the next drawing?  This is some of the analysis that I thought, by opening up with approach to the group, that realizations could occur at a much quicker rate.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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        Posted: September 19, 2012, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

        I tested it for the viking lotto draw sept. 12. From 27 numbers it got 5 out of 6 correct.

         

        12.09.20121311163743
        05.09.2012579192732
               
        23,60 %122468
        50 %345101416
        61,80 %346121720
        78,60 %467152125
        113 %6810213136
        123,60 %6911233340
        138,20 %71012263744
        161,80 %81115314452

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          I tested it for the viking lotto draw sept. 12. From 27 numbers it got 5 out of 6 correct.

           

          12.09.20121311163743
          05.09.2012579192732
                 
          23,60 %122468
          50 %345101416
          61,80 %346121720
          78,60 %467152125
          113 %6810213136
          123,60 %6911233340
          138,20 %71012263744
          161,80 %81115314452

          I don't understand how he got 2,3,4,5,6 by multiplying by 23.6 to the last drawn numbers. I tried every which way but I didn't see anything resembling this.

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            Posted: September 19, 2012, 3:34 pm - IP Logged

            If you  multiply percentage of a sum you get: 25% * 100 = 25. That's how I understood it.

            If you multiply 25 *100 you will of course get a totally  different number.


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              If you  multiply percentage of a sum you get: 25% * 100 = 25. That's how I understood it.

              If you multiply 25 *100 you will of course get a totally  different number.

              Thanks but I'm a math idiot.

               

               

               

              These levels are generally at the following percentages: 23.6%, 38.2%, 50%, 61.8% 78.6%. 113%, 123.6%.

              So, my multiplying the last drawn numbers, as yo can see I have correctly "calculate" 3 of the 5 numbers for the follow on drawing.

              Example:

              29-Aug716172533
              28-Aug1014172127
              123456
              25791114
              369111317
              4811131721
              51116192330

               

              So please give me an example of how he got 23456.

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                Posted: September 19, 2012, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

                Thanks but I'm a math idiot.

                 

                 

                 

                These levels are generally at the following percentages: 23.6%, 38.2%, 50%, 61.8% 78.6%. 113%, 123.6%.

                So, my multiplying the last drawn numbers, as yo can see I have correctly "calculate" 3 of the 5 numbers for the follow on drawing.

                Example:

                29-Aug716172533
                28-Aug1014172127
                123456
                25791114
                369111317
                4811131721
                51116192330

                 

                So please give me an example of how he got 23456.

                29-Aug716172533
                28-Aug1014172127
                123456

                10*23.6% = 2.36 = 2

                14*23.6% = 3.304 = 3

                17*23.6% = 4.012 = 4

                21*23.6% = 4.956 = 5

                27*23.6% = 6.372 = 6


                I did the calculations in Excel.


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                  29-Aug716172533
                  28-Aug1014172127
                  123456

                  10*23.6% = 2.36 = 2

                  14*23.6% = 3.304 = 3

                  17*23.6% = 4.012 = 4

                  21*23.6% = 4.956 = 5

                  27*23.6% = 6.372 = 6


                  I did the calculations in Excel.

                  Ah, thank you. I used a calculator that didn't show the decimal after the 2 in 2.36, I just got 236.

                  Thank You for taking the time.


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                    One last question for now. What do I use when I get this?

                    13x23.6= 306.8

                    Do I use it as 3.06 and diregard the 8?

                    So the final number would be 3?

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                      Posted: September 20, 2012, 11:37 am - IP Logged

                      Use it as 3.06

                      You don't need that many numbers after the "." to round the numbers up or down.

                      3.5XXX up to 3.9XXX goes to 4. 3.4XXX down to 3.0XXX goes to 3.


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                        Use it as 3.06

                        You don't need that many numbers after the "." to round the numbers up or down.

                        3.5XXX up to 3.9XXX goes to 4. 3.4XXX down to 3.0XXX goes to 3.

                        got it, thanks.


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                          ok, I see how you got your matrix, but how did you figure out from the matrix which numbers to play? 

                          so how did you figure out that you needed toplay 7, 16, 17 - or did you see that those 3 numbers were 

                          in the next day's winning numbers?  so once you get this matrix, then how do you come up with the numbers to play? I don't see how you pick those numbers or how you would pick them?

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                            ok, I see how you got your matrix, but how did you figure out from the matrix which numbers to play? 

                            so how did you figure out that you needed toplay 7, 16, 17 - or did you see that those 3 numbers were 

                            in the next day's winning numbers?  so once you get this matrix, then how do you come up with the numbers to play? I don't see how you pick those numbers or how you would pick them?

                            You pick the unique numbers which appears in the matrix and wheel them or use them in some other way in a system.

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                              Actually the way I have approached the picking of numbers is to analyze the game (choose yours) and see if there is a pattern based on when the resultants  of the calculations were drawn in the last five drawings, and try to identify "gaps".

                              I have been analyzing NC Pick 5 (5/39) and I have found that more often than not, a couple of the next drawing numbers end up being one that either have or have not been drawn but that appear to act as a "connector" between a matching resultant matching one of the last numbers drawing, and one from the time before that.  Weird, I know, but more often than not, this appears to be one way to pick up 1 to 2 numbers.  I built my model in excel and used color coding to assist me to visualize the matching process.

                               

                              CountingMan