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Posted: December 2, 2012, 9:42 am - IP Logged

Hello

I know I'm new to this forum and this is already my second post but I've been researching lotteries for a while already and had a few questions.

According to my understanding the lottery "Quick Draw" in New York is generated by a computer (is this correct?). If so theoretically if someone was able to crack the algorithm they should be able to "predict" all future numbers.

I understand this is easier said than done but - at the end of the day it should be doable ?

To my understanding Quick Draw is the only lottery in N.Y that uses a computer to generate the winning numbers -- is this correct?

Thanks

    rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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    Posted: December 2, 2012, 11:09 am - IP Logged

    Hello

    I know I'm new to this forum and this is already my second post but I've been researching lotteries for a while already and had a few questions.

    According to my understanding the lottery "Quick Draw" in New York is generated by a computer (is this correct?). If so theoretically if someone was able to crack the algorithm they should be able to "predict" all future numbers.

    I understand this is easier said than done but - at the end of the day it should be doable ?

    To my understanding Quick Draw is the only lottery in N.Y that uses a computer to generate the winning numbers -- is this correct?

    Thanks

    According to your state lottery report card (available under "Results" on the Blue Bar at the top of the page) you have no computer generated games.

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      Posted: December 2, 2012, 11:13 am - IP Logged

      not true.. The system doesn't include quick draw I believe...

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        Posted: December 2, 2012, 11:26 am - IP Logged

        Hello

        I know I'm new to this forum and this is already my second post but I've been researching lotteries for a while already and had a few questions.

        According to my understanding the lottery "Quick Draw" in New York is generated by a computer (is this correct?). If so theoretically if someone was able to crack the algorithm they should be able to "predict" all future numbers.

        I understand this is easier said than done but - at the end of the day it should be doable ?

        To my understanding Quick Draw is the only lottery in N.Y that uses a computer to generate the winning numbers -- is this correct?

        Thanks

        If you're talking about Quick Picks generated by the terminals then you would only know all the QPs they might generate in the future, but not all QPs are winners.

        *Note -  Terminals generating QPs should cover all possible combinations eventually.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          If you're talking about Quick Picks generated by the terminals then you would only know all the QPs they might generate in the future, but not all QPs are winners.

          *Note -  Terminals generating QPs should cover all possible combinations eventually.

          No, he's talking about the keno game Quick Draw, which is drawn every 4 minutes, 23½ hours a day.  The sheer volume of drawings (351 a day, if I'm doing my math right) makes it impractical for Todd to include it in the LP database.  Besides, the nature of the game is that you find out almost immediately whether or not you've won; I fail to see the utility of having those numbers archived.

          To the OP:  Yes, it's a computer-generated drawing (it has to be; imagine being the person whose job it is to run a manual drawing every 4 minutes?), but lots of luck cracking the algorithm.  One would think that a state lottery would have a top notch random number generator (RNG) which is not susceptible to cracking.  And yes, it's the only computer-generated game in the NY Lottery portfolio.

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            No, he's talking about the keno game Quick Draw, which is drawn every 4 minutes, 23½ hours a day.  The sheer volume of drawings (351 a day, if I'm doing my math right) makes it impractical for Todd to include it in the LP database.  Besides, the nature of the game is that you find out almost immediately whether or not you've won; I fail to see the utility of having those numbers archived.

            To the OP:  Yes, it's a computer-generated drawing (it has to be; imagine being the person whose job it is to run a manual drawing every 4 minutes?), but lots of luck cracking the algorithm.  One would think that a state lottery would have a top notch random number generator (RNG) which is not susceptible to cracking.  And yes, it's the only computer-generated game in the NY Lottery portfolio.

            Thanks, I misunderstood.  Ohio has a similar KENO game but I don't follow it since games that have drawings ever four minutes aren't designed for players who like to think about their numbers before they gamble.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              No, he's talking about the keno game Quick Draw, which is drawn every 4 minutes, 23½ hours a day.  The sheer volume of drawings (351 a day, if I'm doing my math right) makes it impractical for Todd to include it in the LP database.  Besides, the nature of the game is that you find out almost immediately whether or not you've won; I fail to see the utility of having those numbers archived.

              To the OP:  Yes, it's a computer-generated drawing (it has to be; imagine being the person whose job it is to run a manual drawing every 4 minutes?), but lots of luck cracking the algorithm.  One would think that a state lottery would have a top notch random number generator (RNG) which is not susceptible to cracking.  And yes, it's the only computer-generated game in the NY Lottery portfolio.

              Thanks for your reply - you hit all my questions on the noise.

              I assumed that "Quick Draw" was computer generated (I believe it is stated so on the nylottery website) however I was just double checking to make sure.

              Also, although your certainly right about the top notch system they must have in place to generate those "random" numbers, it's still different than something that is truly random.

              I believe that most RNG systems have been cracked in the past (I'm not saying i will crack them, just for the record) even the it was believed that try will never be cracked. You could read about it on Wikipedia I believe.


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                Thanks for your reply - you hit all my questions on the noise.

                I assumed that "Quick Draw" was computer generated (I believe it is stated so on the nylottery website) however I was just double checking to make sure.

                Also, although your certainly right about the top notch system they must have in place to generate those "random" numbers, it's still different than something that is truly random.

                I believe that most RNG systems have been cracked in the past (I'm not saying i will crack them, just for the record) even the it was believed that try will never be cracked. You could read about it on Wikipedia I believe.

                If they are doing 300+ draws a day you have lots of data for cracking the code...


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                  Posted: December 2, 2012, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

                  If its anything like a slot machine RNG the numbers change every millisecond......


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                    Posted: December 26, 2012, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

                    If they are doing 300+ draws a day you have lots of data for cracking the code...

                    I said it before.  If you are serious, then you need an advantage plus, unless you you already have a digit master inspecting tool.

                    To win you dont need much data.

                    I dont know why I see the Patriot  in RNG quick draw.

                     I am so confused my boney is becoming flaccid.