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Jackpot statistics in MM & Powerball games

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Posted: February 6, 2013, 12:38 am - IP Logged

I have seen the jackpot analysis and statistics of numbers played in MM & Powerball but I have not been able to understand what do they mean and stand for.

Can anyone who knows of this can shed light on this. Is there anything we can find out to select numbers my playing the game.

Further how can this help us in selecting the numbers to play.

 

Thanks

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Posted: February 6, 2013, 2:27 am - IP Logged

    I have seen the jackpot analysis and statistics of numbers played in MM & Powerball but I have not been able to understand what do they mean and stand for.

    Can anyone who knows of this can shed light on this. Is there anything we can find out to select numbers my playing the game.

    Further how can this help us in selecting the numbers to play.

     

    Thanks

    There are players who claim to have studied the data and came up with a strategy to make the time they spent during it pay off.   Their strategy is to sell the information however I suspect if the information could help them win a lottery they would probably use it for that instead.

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      Posted: February 6, 2013, 3:11 am - IP Logged

      I have seen the jackpot analysis and statistics of numbers played in MM & Powerball but I have not been able to understand what do they mean and stand for.

      Can anyone who knows of this can shed light on this. Is there anything we can find out to select numbers my playing the game.

      Further how can this help us in selecting the numbers to play.

       

      Thanks

      Its simple mathmatics meaning that each number has an equal chance of winning. No matter who claims to have cracked the code, it's simply is not true. There is no easier way to win it. Those who claim to know are liars since it'd make sense for them to goahead and win the large prize themselves, consisitently.

       

      Good Luck!

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        Posted: February 6, 2013, 9:22 am - IP Logged

        Its simple mathmatics meaning that each number has an equal chance of winning. No matter who claims to have cracked the code, it's simply is not true. There is no easier way to win it. Those who claim to know are liars since it'd make sense for them to goahead and win the large prize themselves, consisitently.

         

        Good Luck!

        In much the same way that logic is only the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it, mathematics is only the beginning of lottery success, and not the end of it. While it's statistically true that any number has an equal chance of coming up in a lotto drawing as compared to any other number, random data does tend to have interesting ways of grouping itself for lack of a better term. I think of it as a tendency of random events to "bunch" itself together.

         

        Random groupings can be seen in ordinary everyday things, not just lottery results. An example of this is workplace birthday data. There are 42 employees where I work but yet 3 people have a Christmas Eve birthday, 2 people have a St. Patrick's Day birthday, 2 people share a September birthday, and I myself share a January birthday with a co-worker of mine. That's 21.4% of my workplace that have birthdays on just 4 of 365 days in the year, or on 1.1% of the days.

         

        Another example is how an iPod shuffles music. I have many hundreds of varied selections on mine with genres ranging from classical to viking folk metal, yet all too often I have noticed the same artist or genre coming up back to back, or 3 of 4 songs played. I'm not sure if an iPod is designed to randomize music like that, but this frequent "bunching" of music seems unusual and not random despite the fact that it obviously is random.

         

        The lottery is no different in the way that deltas occur in jackpot drawings. In Powerball you'll have at least 2 of the numbers bunched within 4 numbers or less of one another 84% of the time. This number goes up dramatically for smaller state/regional drawings for JP games with reduced number fields. The multi state game Hot Lotto has a 39 number white ball field with 5 selected and a close bunching happens 95% of the time in that game. I came up with my data by going back several years for these games and counting how many drawings fit these parameters.

         

        My point is that while a solid grasp of mathematics and probability is key to understanding lottery chances and results it is equally important to understand behavior trends of random occurrences in nature and real life events.

         

        While I doubt this knowledge will ever win me a jackpot at least I know that when I play powerball I can always eliminate the evenly spaced, well balanced number combinations (i.e. 03-11-17-35-52, or 15-21-28-44-57) and 84% of the time my lines would fit the historical pattern of at least one closely bunched pairing. In other words I'm making the trade off of having a zero chance of hitting a PB JP 16% of the time to something somewhat better than 1 in 175 million the rest of the time simply by eliminating well spaced combinations.

         

        That is of course if this multi year trend continues which I have no reason to believe that it won't. Finding this trend was just a matter of putting in the work to look for it, now if I can only pick the winning numbers within the given parameters!

         

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          Posted: February 6, 2013, 10:00 am - IP Logged

          One thing I've noticed about PB and MM and that is no combination of five has ever come up more than once.   Assuming that continues to be true reduces the possible winning combinations by more than 2000 for both games.

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            Posted: February 6, 2013, 10:46 am - IP Logged

            One thing I've noticed about PB and MM and that is no combination of five has ever come up more than once.   Assuming that continues to be true reduces the possible winning combinations by more than 2000 for both games.

            I see your point RJOh and that is regardless of the strategies you use or trends you look at you'll never be able increase your odds of winning that are in any way statistically significant. That's why I joined LP a few months back, to get tips and insight from players with much more experience and know-how than myself.

            I do have one question for you or any other LP member in the know for that matter and that is if I intentionally stop playing PB white ball number sets that are at least 5 numbers or more away from the next closest number in that line how many different number combinations can I eliminate from those that I choose to play? I don't have the math skills necessary to set up an equation that would calculate this.

            Of course I'll follow your advice of not playing a combination that has previously won as well, lol.

            Cheers

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              Posted: February 6, 2013, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

              I see your point RJOh and that is regardless of the strategies you use or trends you look at you'll never be able increase your odds of winning that are in any way statistically significant. That's why I joined LP a few months back, to get tips and insight from players with much more experience and know-how than myself.

              I do have one question for you or any other LP member in the know for that matter and that is if I intentionally stop playing PB white ball number sets that are at least 5 numbers or more away from the next closest number in that line how many different number combinations can I eliminate from those that I choose to play? I don't have the math skills necessary to set up an equation that would calculate this.

              Of course I'll follow your advice of not playing a combination that has previously won as well, lol.

              Cheers

              I don't think you need math to find the answer to your question, you just need to look at a list of all the previous PB drawings since the 5/59 matrix change and count the ones that fall within the parameters that you've described. 

              During the last 426 PB drawings that the 5/59 matrix has existed the sums of the combinations have varied 50-251 and the gaps between the numbers in the sorted combinations varied from 0 to 44.

              The bonus number (red ball) have only been reduced to 35 during the last 110 drawings if you're looking for data for picking those numbers.

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                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                Posted: February 6, 2013, 1:01 pm - IP Logged

                I don't think you need math to find the answer to your question, you just need to look at a list of all the previous PB drawings since the 5/59 matrix change and count the ones that fall within the parameters that you've described. 

                During the last 426 PB drawings that the 5/59 matrix has existed the sums of the combinations have varied 50-251 and the gaps between the numbers in the sorted combinations varied from 0 to 44.

                The bonus number (red ball) have only been reduced to 35 during the last 110 drawings if you're looking for data for picking those numbers.

                You might want to go back to 1992 when the game became known as PowerBall then you would be looking 2170 drawings and many more changes in its format.

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                  Posted: February 6, 2013, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

                  You might want to go back to 1992 when the game became known as PowerBall then you would be looking 2170 drawings and many more changes in its format.

                  Thanks for the info RJOh. I'll go back to the 90's and look at that data in order to get myself a bigger sample size. Good luck tonight in Classic Lotto and PB.

                   

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                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    Posted: February 7, 2013, 2:11 am - IP Logged

                    Thanks for the info RJOh. I'll go back to the 90's and look at that data in order to get myself a bigger sample size. Good luck tonight in Classic Lotto and PB.

                     

                    Cheers

                    I usually only play one game at a time.  I played the 10 PB lines I posted on the prediction board and now that PB and MM have reset I can get back to playing Classic Lotto this Saturday.

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