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Posted: February 14, 2013, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

 In this handout from the U.S. Coast Guard, the cruise ship Carnival Triumph sits idle February 11, 2013 in the Gulf of Mexico. According to the Coast Guard, the ship lost propulsion power February 10, after a fire broke out in the engine room. 

 


 Wed, Feb. 13, 2013

With third tug helping fire-damaged ship, Carnival Triumph declared out of commission through mid-April

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As tugs continue to pull the fire-disabled Carnival Triumph to land, Carnival Cruise Lines said it has canceled another 12 sailings aboard the stricken vessel.

Tuesday night, the company’s president and CEO, Gerry Cahill, said only the Feb. 11 and Feb. 16 Caribbean voyages had been axed. But Wednesday afternoon, the Miami-based cruise operator said the Feb. 21 through April 13 sailings were also being canceled.

Parent company Carnival Corp. estimated that the financial hit from the canceled trips and repair costs would be eight to 10 cents per share, or $64-$80 million, for the first half of 2013.

Carnival said guests whose trips have been canceled will get a full refund of their cruise fare, non-refundable transportation costs, pre-paid shore excursions, tips, government fees and taxes. They will also be entitled to a 25 percent discount on three- to five-day cruises or 15 percent discount for six- to seven-day sailings.

The 2,758-passenger ship, which launched in 1999, is based in Galveston, where it sails four- and five-day trips to the Caribbean.

Triumph departed Thursday with 3,143 passengers and 1,086 crew. It was scheduled to return to port early Monday after a weekend stop in Cozumel, but fire broke out Sunday morning in the engine room. The cause of the blaze, which was put out by automatic systems, is still not known.

The ship lost propulsion and had to rely on emergency generator power, leaving passengers with a limited number of working bathrooms and no air conditioning. Guests have reported long lines for food and said they were forced to use bags as toilets.

Two tugs are towing the ship to Mobile, Ala., with a goal of reaching the port by Thursday. The company said Wednesday afternoon that it had dispatched a third tugboat, from Port Fourchon, La., to help. That boat was expected to get to the ship by Wednesday evening.

Carnival has lined up more than 1,500 hotel rooms in New Orleans and chartered more than 20 flights to get passengers back to Houston. Bus service directly to Houston and Galveston will also be provided. Late Wednesday, the company said it would add to the compensation it had already offered passengers aboard the disabled ship. In addition to the previously announced full refund of the trip, transportation expenses and most shipboard purchases, as well as credit for a future cruise, Carnival will give each person $500.

“We know it has been a longer journey back than we anticipated at the beginning of the week under very challenging circumstances,” said Carnival Cruise Lines President & CEO Gerry Cahill in a statement. “We are very sorry for what our guests have had to endure. Therefore, in addition to the full refund and future cruise credit already offered, we have decided to provide this additional compensation. I look forward to welcoming everyone to Mobile tomorrow and have mobilized our full resources to assist and support them as they travel home.”

In a similar case, the Carnival Splendor was set adrift in the Pacific in November 2010 after an explosion in a diesel generator. It was out of service for about three months; the company estimated the loss at $56 million.

Tim Conder, a Wells Fargo analyst, said in a note Monday that he estimated the impact from the Carnival Triumph fire could be between $40-$80 million, or five to 10 cents a share, for the quarter.

“While this incident represents a string of similar occurrences over the last several years, we believe this incident will most likely be more of a negative PR event, especially during the Wave season,” Conder wrote in the note to investors. “We believe that management will place additional efforts to better identify and install preventive measures to avoid future similar incidents and related negative PR.”

ead more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/13/v-print/3232314/carnival-triumph-out-of-commission.html#storylink=cpy

 

AND

Thanks ~ David Knowles

Carnival Triumph rancid air quality presents serious health risks after raw sewage leak,

expert says Passengers aboard Carnival’s Triumph cruise ship are breathing unhealthy air

following a plumbing failure, according to Tony Abate, who has helped install air ventilation

systems for other companies. "You now have a great number of people inside where they

will be exposed to viruses and possible bacterial infections," Abate said.

 

With the failure of the Carnvial Triumph's waste water system, passengers

and crew are left with breathing putrid air. For passengers aboard Carnival’s crippled Triumph cruise ship, their vacation has not exactly been a breath of fresh air.

With its air conditioning knocked out since Sunday, toilets overflowing, and raw sewage running down cabin walls, the 4,200 people aboard the Triumph have endured an air quality nightmare this week.

Having overseeing the installation of clean air systems on two Norwegian cruise ships, Tony Abate, vice president of operations at AtmosAir Solutions, says that health risks abound for those forced to remain in the ship’s hot, fetid inner corridors.

"The biggest concern for these passengers is that they've been trapped inside for so long,” Abate told the Daily News. “The inside of a cruise ship is a space that's designed to have an air ventilation system to dilute contaminants. That's been knocked out."

While cruise ships often become floating incubators of illness like norovirus even when ventilation systems are functioning properly, the disabled ship now represents an even greater hazard to its passengers and crew.

"You now have a great number of people inside where they will be exposed to viruses and possible bacterial infections," Abate said.

According to Abate, there are several risks from breathing the foul-smelling air inside the ship.

"With the reports of overflowing toilets, and exposure to sewage, some big risks are E. coli contamination and staph infection,” Abate said. “But the most common thing we're going to see involve the spread of colds and flu."

Carnival says that passengers will be able to get off the cruise from hell when the boat is towed into Mobile, Ala. on Thursday afternoon. By that time, many of the passengers may have been infected with illness.

"The passengers on board the Triumph now have a much better chance of getting sick now that they've been bottled up inside that ship,” Abate said.

The company announced Wednesday that it would cancel the Triumph’s next 12 voyages.

 

What comments and numbers do you have about this cruise ship news?


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    Posted: February 14, 2013, 4:38 pm - IP Logged

    I guess you should always bring your own bag.What?

    Sounds more like a floating concentration camp, then a luxury cruise.Puke

    Future liners should have oars like viking ships, just in case.Idea

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      I guess you should always bring your own bag.What?

      Sounds more like a floating concentration camp, then a luxury cruise.Puke

      Future liners should have oars like viking ships, just in case.Idea

      Good comments ... thanks!

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                              Disabled cruise ship Carnival Triumph: Statistics at a glance

         

        A look at the Carnival Triumph in statistics:

        — Year built and first cruise: 1999.

        — Length: 893 feet.

        — Width at widest point: 116 feet.

        — Passenger capacity: Up to 3,400 (all beds filled).

        — Onboard staff: About 1,100.

        — Number of decks (including spa, sky and sun decks): 14.

        — Cruising speed: 21 knots, or about 24 mph.

        — Amenities: Eateries, bars, dance club floor, giant LED movie screen, 9-hole mini-golf course, waterslide, padded jogging track, sliding sky dome, gymnasium, steam saunas, casino.

        — Home port: Galveston, Texas.

        — Registry: The Bahamas.

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          It started with a fire!


          Carnival ship fire quickly extinguished as ship wallows in Gulf awaiting tug

          Thanks ~ CHARLES RABIN

           The Carnival Triumph departs New York harbor on its inaugural voyage in 1999.
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          The Carnival Triumph departs New York harbor on its inaugural voyage in 1999.
          The Carnival Triumph, a Galveston, Texas-based passenger cruise ship with the theme “Great Cities Around the World,” might have been better off sitting at port, as a court initially ordered.

          As of Monday morning the 14-year old ship was going nowhere, operating on emergency generator power after a fire Sunday in one of the diesel generators killed its propulsion. The fire was quickly put out by an automatic fire extinguishing system, and none of the 4,229 passengers or crew are said to be in any danger

          All were waiting patiently as a giant tug boat trudged toward the Triumph, now operating under generator power, with the intention of hauling the 100,000 ton, 893-foot vessel to the nearest port in Progreso, Mexico. It is expected in port some time Wednesday afternoon. Carnival Cruise Lines headquarters are in Miami-Dade.

          “The cause of the fire is still to be determined,” said Carnival spokesman Vance Guliksen. In a brief news release, Guliksen said “there were no casualties to guests or crew.”

          He said all passengers will be flown back to the United States and will be fully refunded.. Carnival said it will cover any additional transportation expenses. Passengers will also receive a free future cruise.

          As of 11 a.m. Tuesday another Carnival ship, the Carnival Elation, was on the scene transferring food and beverages.

          According to Carnival, some basic auxiliary power has been restored, cabin toilets are working on part of the ship and some elevators are operational. The dining areas are serving hot coffee and limited hot food.

          The $420 million Triumph made news early last year after the family of a German tourist killed in the Costa Concordia disaster in the Mediterranean filed a $10 million lawsuit against Carnival. A judge found the family had standing, and ordered the ship held at port in Galveston. The court later allowed the ship to move between ports until a hearing takes place.

          The lawsuit contends that Carnival Cruise Lines is the corporate parent of the Costa Concordia.




          Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/11/v-print/3228372/carnival-ship-fire-quickly-extinguished.html#storylink=cpy
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                 A refund and discounts on future cruises is not going to be acceptable I am sure for most passengers. Who would go on another cruise with them? I think they should at least double the refunds. Expect major lawsuits. This may be the end of Carnival.

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              I was at a fundraiser last night for the Human society and one of the girls I was talking to said her mom was on board and that it took 3 hours in line just to get a hot dog, She said it was hot, the toilets weren't working and the smell was awful.

              I think the passengers will need another vacation to to recoup after this one.

              Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

              For a lead role in a cage?

               

                                                          From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                     A refund and discounts on future cruises is not going to be acceptable I am sure for most passengers. Who would go on another cruise with them? I think they should at least double the refunds. Expect major lawsuits. This may be the end of Carnival.

                The lawsuits have already started!

                Thanks for your comments, C*aramelSun Smiley!

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                  I was at a fundraiser last night for the Human society and one of the girls I was talking to said her mom was on board and that it took 3 hours in line just to get a hot dog, She said it was hot, the toilets weren't working and the smell was awful.

                  I think the passengers will need another vacation to to recoup after this one.

                  But not with Carnival Cruise Lines, Sully16! No Nod

                  Thanks for your comments!

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                    But not with Carnival Cruise Lines, Sully16! No Nod

                    Thanks for your comments!

                    No, thats for sure, I think a nice vacation laying around on a beach drinking margaritas may be in order.

                    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                    For a lead role in a cage?

                     

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                      Carnival Triumph cruise from hell goes on as bus breaks down

                      and then passengers are told there is a fault with their PLANE!

                      Triumph passengers were stuck again! This time a bus they were aboard

                      broke down on its way from Mobile, Ala., to New Orleans.


                      Carnival Triump passenger Clark Jones tweets a photo from one of the charter buses. Exhausted and bedraggled travelers had to haul down their luggage and wait for a replacement bus to arrive, according to passenger Clark Jones.

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                      The crippled Carnival Triumph cruse ship with 3,143 passengers and a crew of 1,086 docks in Mobile, Ala., Feb 14

                       

                      Exhausted and bedraggled travelers had to haul down their luggage and wait for a replacement bus to arrive, according to

                       

                      passenger Clark Jones.

                       

                       

                      “The bus literally breaks down,” passenger Clark Jones told Live at Daybreak. “It comes to a stop in the middle of the highway.

                       

                      We have to pull over to the side. It's dark.

                       

                      All the lights on the bus go out.”

                      Guests groaned in disbelief as the vehicle ground to halt around 2:30 a.m. and the driver told them they’d had a breakdown.

                      “My friend Jacob and I, we just started laughing. People were giggling. Other people were not happy,” said Jones.

                       

                      Bus passenger Jacob Combs, 30, thought the worst was over after the bus fiasco – but when he got to the New Orleans

                       

                      airport where his Carnival charter flight to

                       

                      Houston waited, it was delayed 90 minutes.

                       

                      “I was told it had an electrical failure,” said Combs, who couldn’t believe his bad luck. He landed in Houston about an hour

                       

                      behind schedule Friday afternoon and

                       

                      boarded yet another Carnival bus – this one to Galveston, where he’d left his car at the start of the cruise. “If this breaks down

                       

                      on the way I think I’ll just give up,” he

                       

                      said.

                       

                      It was just the latest calamity for guests who had stepped aboard the Carnival Triumph for a pleasure cruise that left

                       

                      Galveston, Tex., Feb. 7.

                       

                      It was scheduled to return on Feb. 11 after a stop in Cozumel, Mexico, but an early morning engine room fire on Feb. 10

                       

                      knocked out all its propulsion — and its waste

                       

                      management system.

                       

                      As the boat drifted northward, the 3,143 passengers and 1,086 crewmembers soon realized they were stuck on a floating

                       

                      outhouse. Sewage backed up in showers,

                       

                      overflowed from toilets and leaked over decks and floors.

                       

                      Carnival scrambled to rescue the disabled ship and at first intended to have tugboats bring it to Progreso, Mexico, on the Gulf

                       

                      Coast.

                       

                      But strong northward currents quickly shifted the powerless Triumph closer to Mobile, so when tugs were ready, the company

                       

                      directed them to Alabama.

                       

                      It took three days at a glacial pace to get the crippled ship back to shore.

                       

                      Passengers cheered and chanted “Let us off, let us off,” as they waited up to four hours to disembark late Thursday night and

                       

                      into Friday.

                       

                      Some boarded buses directly to Houston and Galveston, a seven-hour journey. Others, like Jones, opted for a two-hour drive

                       

                      to New Orleans and a plane ride to

                       

                      Houston Friday.

                       

                      Debbie Moyse, a 32-year-old mother from Phoenix who was on the Triumph with four friends, said passengers slept on the

                       

                      deck in tents made of sheets to escape smell

                       

                      and heat below.

                       

                      The hardest part was the listing of the ship.

                       

                      “We kept asking ourselves, ‘Are we going to tip over?’” she said.

                       

                      Triumph’s disaster is the second high-profile incident for a Carnival ship in a little more than a year. The company’s Costa

                       

                      Concordia ran aground off Italy in January

                       

                      2012, killing 32 people.

                       

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                      Passengers from the disabled Carnival Triumph cruise ship arrive by bus at the Hilton Riverside Hotel in New Orleans,

                      Friday, Feb. 15.

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                      Passengers of the Carnival Triumph walk to their buses after docking at the cruise terminal in Mobile, Ala.,

                      Thursday, Feb. 14.

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                      Carnival Triump passenger Clark Jones tweets a photo from inside one of the charter buses.

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                        This is like a Greek tragedy, or a warped episode of Final Destination.

                        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                        For a lead role in a cage?

                         

                                                                    From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"