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Hello,
I am new to Lottery Post, and have alot of interest in the lottery. At one time I only used a program called Lotto Buster until it disappeared from the internet, and I lost my licence key after a cold install of winderz. Since then (several years ago) I have been working with spreadsheets on my own since most of the software out there does not look at the pick 3 / 4 the same way I have learned to from the Lotto Logix articles and others avaliable on the web. I learned a bit over the years of playing around with backtesting several methods or ideas for really narrowing down the most likely numbers to come up in the pick 3 since it has better odds. I look at pick 3 numbers as box numbers or whole numbers reduced to the 220 box combinations. I looked at alot of software that had what they called a skip and hit chart. Most all of the software out there if it has a skip and hit chart / spreadsheet seems to look at only single digits. So I made a spreadsheet that does the same for pick 3 box numbers, the only problem is that the only instructions for using a skip and hit chart I have ever seen tell you to look for patterns like 10 skips then a hit etc., etc. I have been reciently looking at wheather the last number of skips have been higher or lower than the number of skips before it, to get an trend of wheather its time to play that number or not over many games. for example I look at a fairly long history of the skip and hits for a given box number to see how many times it came out higher or lower than the time that number came out before it. Looking at the number 123 is currently 50 games out, meaning it has not hit in the last 50 games, then you have 100 games before the last hit and 127 before that, and 39 before that. Looking at the numbers this way the number seems to have a trend or tendancy of comming out lower than the number of skips before it, so if its out 50 games its a good idea to play it. Has anyone tried this method before? if so what were your experiences? Has anyone tried to take it a step further and look at the higher or lower tendancy of the higher or lower trend? It seem to me that this method a few but not all unlikely selections.
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I my expierence, playing the skip then hit method has not been lucrative. I used to do somthing similar to what you describe with the 220 box combinations (and the 715 box combinations for Pick 4). I didn't make enough money for the effort I expended tracking and testing. I now only track the individual digits in Pick 3 (and Pick 4) and look to select so called 'hot' digits with 1 (and only 1) 'cold' digit. My definition of a cold digit is: a digit that has not shown up in 10 consecutive draws (Midday and Evening combined). I have been hitting consistently with this method in Pick 3.
Nothing wrong with what you are doing, it just takes to long to get a hit for my taste. Good luck 2 U.
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Quote: Originally posted by lottologix on Mar 3, 2013
Hello,
I am new to Lottery Post, and have alot of interest in the lottery. At one time I only used a program called Lotto Buster until it disappeared from the internet, and I lost my licence key after a cold install of winderz. Since then (several years ago) I have been working with spreadsheets on my own since most of the software out there does not look at the pick 3 / 4 the same way I have learned to from the Lotto Logix articles and others avaliable on the web. I learned a bit over the years of playing around with backtesting several methods or ideas for really narrowing down the most likely numbers to come up in the pick 3 since it has better odds. I look at pick 3 numbers as box numbers or whole numbers reduced to the 220 box combinations. I looked at alot of software that had what they called a skip and hit chart. Most all of the software out there if it has a skip and hit chart / spreadsheet seems to look at only single digits. So I made a spreadsheet that does the same for pick 3 box numbers, the only problem is that the only instructions for using a skip and hit chart I have ever seen tell you to look for patterns like 10 skips then a hit etc., etc. I have been reciently looking at wheather the last number of skips have been higher or lower than the number of skips before it, to get an trend of wheather its time to play that number or not over many games. for example I look at a fairly long history of the skip and hits for a given box number to see how many times it came out higher or lower than the time that number came out before it. Looking at the number 123 is currently 50 games out, meaning it has not hit in the last 50 games, then you have 100 games before the last hit and 127 before that, and 39 before that. Looking at the numbers this way the number seems to have a trend or tendancy of comming out lower than the number of skips before it, so if its out 50 games its a good idea to play it. Has anyone tried this method before? if so what were your experiences? Has anyone tried to take it a step further and look at the higher or lower tendancy of the higher or lower trend? It seem to me that this method a few but not all unlikely selections.
Your thoughts ?????? Anyone???
Lottologix: I've never tried it, but after reading your post I pulled up my EXCEL database to do some back testing using the method as I understand your post. I tried it out on random selections of all the Pick 3 lotteries in the US, only using data from the past year.
Nothing scientific in what I did, and backtesting certainly doesn't give reliable answers, but if you believe there's any value to seeing how the method would have performed on a substantial assortment of other lotteries in the past, I'd suggest you give it a try.
Nothing in what I saw caused me to faint and have to revive myself to begin using it.
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Bayes does not work. Some numbers don't come up in 1000 drawings and others come out more often. So Bayes should be understood as average, ... . Blabla ... .
For one break even bet you could play 499 bets straight. Boxed is for pussies.