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May 7, 2023, 4:07 am

Quote: Originally posted by Dracos on May 4, 2023

Hey all,

How's everyone doing? Just got the inventory for game 1490, and 1491. There's only 246 locations across Florida listed as having game 1490 in inventory. Still one unclaimed jackpot.

$500 A WK FOR LIFE

Circle K #2109	1205 S State Road 19	Palatka	32177
Joe's Market	2190 NW 46th Street	Miami	33142
Downstairs	5665 NW 36th Street	Miami Springs	33166
Sam's Discount Food Store	2662 Apopka Boulevard	Apopka	32703
Shop Smart	680 NE 33rd Street	Pompano Beach	33064
FCE #1004	7750 Normandy Boulevard	Jacksonville	32221
Welcome Food Store #2	3523 Loretto Road	Jacksonville	32223
Sunshine #30020	20780 NW 27th Avenue	Miami	33056
Munchee's Express #2	614 Union Street	Dunedin	34698
All In One Deli	1488 E Semoran Boulevard	Apopka	32703
Sara Dollar Store	2200 SW 16th Street Suite 102	Miami	33145
La Azteca De Oro	406 N Krome Avenue	Homestead	33030
Sunshine #202	4695 NW 167th Street	Opa Locka	33055
Tierra Santa Supermarket	98 W 9th Street	Hialeah	33010
Poinciana Produce	871 Towne Center Drive	Kissimmee	34759
Sunny's Mini Mart	5301 Satel Drive	Orlando	32810
La Preferida Super Discount	819 E 41st Street	Hialeah	33013
Edgewood Food & Beverage Mart	801 Edgewood Avenue West	Jacksonville	32208
Quick Food Mart #6	6501 Munson Highway	Milton	32570
Handy Food Store	7798 Wiles Road	Coral Springs	33067
Pine Island Chevron	4450 S Pine Island Road	Davie	33328
OWG Shell	6203 Old Winter Garden Road	Orlando	32835
Sunrise Food Store #2	835 Edgewood Avenue South	Jacksonville	32205
SunStop #322	6674 US Highway 129	Live Oak	32060
SunStop #349	6723 US Highway 129 South	Jasper	32052
Belle Glade Fish Market	449 W Avenue A	Belle Glade	33430
First Choice Pharmacy Zocalo	460 US Highway 17-92 North	Haines City	33844
Sunoco Food Mart	2971 W Orange Blossom Trail	Apopka	32712
Freez Food Market	2504 Avenue I	Fort Pierce	34947
East Side Food Store	3423 SE Hawthorne Road	Gainesville	32641
Lotto Zone	4550 N Goldenrod Road	Winter Park	32792
Sunshine Food Mart #844	844 N Banana River Drive	Merritt Island	32952
JP's	1200 W Washington Street	Monticello	32344
Happy Store	3037 Phillips Highway	Jacksonville	32207
Time Saver Food Mart	403 US Highway 27 SW	Branford	32008
Kwik Stop	2500 Westgate Avenue	West Palm Beach	33409
A Plus #40320H	1350 Krome Avenue	Florida City	33034
29th Street Store	2802 N 29th Street	Tampa	33605
Liquor	7110 N University Drive Suite	Tamarac	33321
BP Food Mart	662 NE US Highway 19	Crystal River	34429
Sunoco Express	2655 N Orange Blossom Trail	Kissimmee	34744
Hop In #4	2999 Jefferson Street	Marianna	32446
Parramore Store LLC	217 S Parramore Avenue	Orlando	32805
A & J Corner Store	2804 E Lake Avenue	Tampa	33610
AMI 69 Food Mart	213 S Highway 71	Wewahitchka	32465
Smart Fill	4306 N Davis Highway	Pensacola	32503
Bartow Friends LLC	1193 E Main Street	Bartow	33830
Havana Smoke & Vape	1961 W 60th Street	Hialeah	33012
Gainesville Supermarket	7114 W University Avenue	Gainesville	32607
Pit Stop #33	8035 SW State Road 47	Lake City	32024
La Familia Market	1505 W Okeechobee Road	Hialeah	33010
Total Food	7777 NW 17th Avenue	Miami	33147
Berkley Petroleum	1114 Berkley Road	Auburndale	33823
Friendly Way Food Store	901 S Florida Avenue	Deland	32720
Quick Food Mart	1225 S 78th Street	Tampa	33619
Stop N Go 2	5277 S US Highway 441	Lake City	32025
Lakeland Shell #228	4607 S Florida Avenue	Lakeland	33813
Ekata Food Mart	6915 Ulmerton Road	Largo	33771
King Food Discount	9920 Beach Boulevard	Jacksonville	32246
17th Avenue Marathon	2353 NW 17th Avenue	Miami	33142
Miami Shores U-Gas	8700 Biscayne Boulevard	Miami Shores	33138
Sunoco	1009 N State Road 7	Royal Palm Beach	33411
A1A	4200 62nd Avenue North Suite A	Pinellas Park	33781
Las Dallas Market LLC	1428 W 49th Street	Hialeah	33012
Quick Stop 23	2219 Martin Luther King Jr Bou	Panama City	32405
Mahantam Inc	11716 N Williams Street	Dunnellon	34432
Family Food Mart	3565 Jupiter Boulevard Southea	Palm Bay	32909
University and 44 Food Inc	4373-4375 N University Drive	Sunrise	33351
Neighbourhood Store	3315 N Nebraska Avenue	Tampa	33603
West End Quick Pic Inc	19937 Central Avenue West	Blountstown	32424
1506 7-Eleven #22219	1101 North Highway 17-92	Longwood	32750
2726 7-Eleven #24162	8910 S Orange Blossom Trail	Orlando	32809
1551 7-Eleven #22724	3101 Gandy Boulevard	Tampa	33611
Kwik Stop #20	2711 SE Morningside Boulevard	Port Saint Lucie	34952
Circle K #1267	#3 Kingswood Drive	Palm Coast	32137
Shop & Save	150 E 3rd Street	Jacksonville	32206
Publix #555	3825 S Osprey Avenue	Sarasota	34239
Publix #568	10701 Wiles Road	Coral Springs	33076
Sunshine #30044	4401 NW 31th Avenue	Lauderdale Lakes	33309
FCE #1004	7750 Normandy Boulevard	Jacksonville	32221
North Expressway Amoco	814 Edgewood Avenue West	Jacksonville	32208
1554 7-Eleven #32343	21200 Three Oaks Parkway	Estero	33928
B & B #5	3790 E US Highway 90	Wellborn	32094
Super Stop	1801 NE 45th Street	Fort Lauderdale	33308
Kwik Stop #6960	5551 W Hallandale Beach Boulev	Hollywood	33023
Kwik Stop #2009	1718 14th Street West	Bradenton	34205
Sedano's Supermarket #29	16255 SW 88th Street	Miami	33196
Kwik Stop #81	8186 N University Drive	Tamarac	33321
Polk City BP	8919 State Road 33 North	Polk City	33868
Twin Brothers Food Mart	2433 Lucerne Park Road	Winter Haven	33881
Welcome Food Store #2	3523 Loretto Road	Jacksonville	32223
6877 Speedway	2023 US Highway 19	Holiday	34691
Food Mart	5385 S Florida Avenue	Lakeland	33813
New Way Food and Deli	15202 Livingston Avenue	Lutz	33559
Norman's Drive Thru	233 Dr MLK Jr Blvd E	Belle Glade	33430
Welcome Food Store #5	11531 San Jose Boulevard Suite	Jacksonville	32223
Manatee Citgo	2306 Manatee Avenue East	Bradenton	34208
747 Supermarket	4675 NW 7th Street	Miami	33126
A-1 Discount Store	825 Barton Boulevard	Rockledge	32955
State Road 31 Shell	18981 Old Bayshore Road	North Fort Myers	33917
Edgewood BP	3000 Edgewood Avenue West	Jacksonville	32209
Foodtown	5335 N Military Trail Suite 60	West Palm Beach	33407
Plaza Food & Fuel	1995 US Highway 17 South	Bartow	33830
Sunshine #270	10191 SW 72nd Street	Miami	33173
Mr Grocer	11451 W Oakland Park Boulevard	Sunrise	33323
Aman Food Store	9456 2nd Avenue	Orlando	32824
Hub Stacey's	5851 Galvez Road	Pensacola	32507
Edward Sunoco	3110 S US Highway 1	Fort Pierce	34982
Citgo 171	3080 NW 54th Street	Miami	33142
Belle Glade Circle A	439 SE 2nd Street	Belle Glade	33430
Carmelos Market Place	146 King Street	Saint Augustine	32084
1555 7-Eleven #34165	4400 Pleasant Hill Road	Kissimmee	34746
Sunshine #30021	8645 SW Sunset Drive	Miami	33143
Port Orange Citgo	6223 S Williamson Boulevard	Port Orange	32128
Presidente Supermarket #21	18350 NW 7th Avenue	Miami	33169
Quick Way Food Store #103	770 N McDuff Avenue	Jacksonville	32254
Chevron Food Mart	819 North Lake Boulevard	North Palm Beach	33408
Chevron	1601 Coral Way	Coral Gables	33145
Kwik Stop #9002	614 NE 8th Street	Hallandale	33009
Circle K #7785	5651 Clark Road	Sarasota	34233
J & G West Flagler Inc	7100 West Flagler Street	Miami	33144
Sunshine Express	105 W Burleigh Boulevard	Tavares	32778
A & A Food Mart	3801 6th Street South	Saint Petersburg	33705
1554 7-Eleven #34865	2412 Santa Barbara Boulevard	Cape Coral	33914
Exxon Fuel Express	8551 Keshav Taylor Drive	Milton	32583
1534 7-Eleven #39428 - BCP	6800 W 16th Avenue	Hialeah	33014
Jupiter West Sunoco	2508 W Indiantown Road	Jupiter	33458
Star Food Mart	8078 S Sun Coast Boulevard	Homosassa	34446
Western Beef #301	23072 Sandal Foot Plaza Drive	Boca Raton	33428
Western Beef #304	4624 Hypoluxo Road	Lake Worth	33463
Sarah Small Corporation	3000 Jog Road	Greenacres	33467
Moe Gas & Diesel	23446 Highway 71	Altha	32421
Shop N Save Food Store	525 S Cypress Road	Pompano Beach	33060
Sunshine #368	10690 NW 41st Street	Miami	33178
Stop & Go Liquors	7422 Pine Forest Road	Pensacola	32526
Palm Aire Service Station	1481 SW 26th Avenue	Pompano Beach	33069
Sunshine #307	11101 Biscayne Boulevard	Miami	33181
Crossroads Package Liquors	5698 Haines Road North	Saint Petersburg	33714
Petra Food & Fuel	5262 S Dale Mabry Highway	Tampa	33611
Indiantown Marathon	243 W Indiantown Road	Jupiter	33458
Walmart Market #4141	9020 Ulmerton Road	Largo	33771
Redland Grocery Inc	26400 SW 187th Avenue	Homestead	33031
Downstairs	13960 SW 56th Street	Miami	33175
1534 7-Eleven #37013	95 SE 9th Street	Miami	33131
Petra Oil LLC	14800 N Miami Avenue	Miami	33168
Navarro Discount Pharmacy #10700	4410 W 16th Avenue B9	Hialeah	33012
Kal's Food	1057 N County Road 470	Lake Panasoffkee	33538
Rubys Store	11191 SW 176th Street	Miami	33157
Tip Top Mini Mart & Meat Market	3003 Monroe Street	Melbourne	32901
The Islander Lounge	43 Via DeLuna Drive	Pensacola Beach	32561
Lake City Food Mart	3554 North US HWY 441	Lake City	32055
Hi Way Mart	700 West Church Street	Orlando	32805
PB Grocery	400 Village Boulevard Suite J	West Palm Beach	33409
420 Tobacco	2350 West 60th Street #2-3	Hialeah	33016
SunStop #308	16753 Springs Street	White Springs	32096
45th Petroleum Inc	19775 Hampton Drive	Boca Raton	33434
Island Market	7904 West Drive Suite CU #8	North Bay Village	33141
Aleens Market	1700 NW 2nd Court	Miami	33136
Salt Springs Food Mart	13444 N Highway 19	Salt Springs	32134
Chamberlain Chevron	901 W Busch Boulevard	Tampa	33612
T & V	3001 India Palm Drive	Edgewater	32141
S & V Food Center	110 N Main Street	Bushnell	33513
Giant Marketplace	15006 NE 6th Avenue	North Miami	33161
Chevron Express	11555 Bonita Beach Road Southe	Bonita Springs	34135
Super Primo Supermarket	918 NW 36th Street	Miami	33127
First Choice Food Mart #5	882 W River Road	Palatka	32177
Sunshine #810	17700 NW 2nd Avenue	Miami Gardens	33169
Kwik Stop	68100 Overseas Highway	Layton	33001
Sunoco	4285 State Road 60 West	Mulberry	33860
Presco Food Store	29741 State Road 54	Wesley Chapel	33543
Orion Fuels	2616 Stickney Point Road	Sarasota	34231
Super Stop Food Store	6063 NW 31st Avenue	Fort Lauderdale	33309
Cost Plus Liquors West	13131 Lillian Highway	Pensacola	32506
Dandy Liquors	1308 E University Avenue	Gainesville	32641
Eureka Gas Group	13401 SW 184th Street	Miami	33177
The Old Ice House	310 W International Speedway B	Daytona Beach	32114
B-Kwik Food Store	1921 N Federal Highway	Boca Raton	33432
Olive Road Food Mart	1112 E Olive Road	Pensacola	32514
Nine Mile Raceway	701 W Nine Mile Road	Pensacola	32534
Kwik Stop Food Store	4103 S Orlando Drive	Sanford	32773
New Way Supermarket	3385 NW 22nd Avenue	Miami	33142
Betty Lane Citgo	1285 Cleveland Street	Clearwater	33755
Arbuckle Marathon	3390 State Road 17 North	Sebring	33870
Sunshine Supermarket	50 Wilson Boulevard South, Sui	Naples	34117
Top Deck Liquor Store	4962 US Highway 19	New Port Richey	34652
Lake Manatee Fish Camp	23745 County Road 675	Myakka City	34251
Food Mart	1215 Creighton Road	Pensacola	32504
2Go Enterprises #103	7387 Shoal Line Boulevard	Weeki Wachee	34607
Speedy Mart	4550 Capital Circle Northwest	Tallahassee	32303
Food Express #4	2340 W Memorial Boulevard	Lakeland	33815
Stop & Go	4991 SE Highway 31	Arcadia	34266
Bob Zippy Mart	311 N Dixie Avenue	Fruitland Park	34731
El Libanes #2 Supermarket - Cafeteria	6815 W 4th Avenue	Hialeah	33014
Pump & Munch Flamingo	5704 S Flamingo Road	Cooper City	33330
Fairfield Mart	2800 W Fairfield Drive	Pensacola	32505
Lake Food Store	2044 N US Highway 441	Lake City	32055
Sunoco Food Mart	3401 Conway Gardens Road	Orlando	32806
Tuva Foodhall and Gas Inc	8624 US Highway 301 South	Riverview	33578
Sunshine #476	7375 SW 57th Avenue	South Miami	33143
Hawthorne Markets Inc	6005 N Highway 301	Hawthorne	32640
American Legion Post 271	775 N US Highway 1	Tequesta	33469
SAS Mart	5392 10th Street	Malone	32445
Leisure Marathon	3641 US Highway 27 South	Sebring	33870
Tiger of Saint Augustine	52 San Marco Avenue	Saint Augustine	32084
Gulfport Mini Mart	1615 58th Street South	Gulfport	33707
Discount Tobacco Shop	15236 Old US Highway 441	Tavares	32778
Bridger's Truck Stop	549 E Bridgers Avenue	Auburndale	33823
Hawthorne Liquor	7040 SE US Highway 301	Hawthorne	32640
Venice Shell	4300 Tamiami Trail South	Venice	34293
Discount Tobacco	3053 N Orange Blossom Trail	Zellwood	32798
Bravo Supermarket	32955 S Dixie Highway	Florida City	33034
Quickcheck	33191 Cortez Boulevard	Ridge Manor	33523
La Cuevas Alejandro LLC	1842 SW 8th Street	Miami	33135
Bella Pioneer Depot	2470 Hendry Isles Boulevard	Clewiston	33440
SK Food Mart	815 Howard Street West	Live Oak	32064
Quick Stop	431 S Central Avenue	Lakeland	33815
FNS Food Store Inc	29341 SW 152nd Avenue	Homestead	33033
A1 Food Mart Inc	5595 Pembroke Road	Hollywood	33021
TA 288	14197 S US Highway 441	Lake City	32024
Bradenton Chevron	2925 Manatee Avenue West	Bradenton	34205
Winter Haven Marathon	1660 S Lake Shipp Drive	Winter Haven	33880
Tarpon Mini Mart	313 S Pinellas Avenue	Tarpon Springs	34689
Ruby Market Corp	490 E 4th Avenue Unit A&B	Hialeah	33010
One Stop 7	1996 Hamilton Avenue	Jennings	32053
Quick Food Mart	1225 S 78th Street	Tampa	33619
City Liquor III	10776 SW 72nd Street	Miami	33173
Racin Gas	4801 Park Boulevard North	Pinellas Park	33781
Fast Track #2	406 Hatley Street West	Jasper	32052
Fast Track #1	12498 Roberts Street	White Springs	32096
Hanley Express	7008 Hanley Road	Tampa	33634
LBK Liquors	6854 Gulf of Mexico Drive	Long Boat Key	34228
Sunshine Food Mart 334	3480 S Nova Road	Port Orange	32129
Snax 24	1755 Dr MLK Jr Street South	Saint Petersburg	33705
The Super America	5310 NW 13th Street	Gainesville	32653
Plant City Food Mart	1105 E Baker Street	Plant City	33563
Quick Stop	707 N Pace Boulevard Suite C&D	Pensacola	32505
Benn's Mart	1322 N 61st Avenue	Pensacola	32506
King Food Discount	9920 Beach Boulevard	Jacksonville	32246
Sunflex	2612 NW 27 Avenue	Miami	33142
Kangaroo #599	700 3rd Avenue	Welaka	32193
Blanding Mobil	7410 Blanding Boulevard	Jacksonville	32244
Golden Falcon Liquor	113 W Jefferson Street	Quincy	32351
Stuart Discount Beverage	3345 SE Dixie Highway	Stuart	34997
Mag's Mini Mart	11622 US HWY 19	Port Richey	34668
RaceWay 6983	4102 W Waters Avenue	Tampa	33614
Chevron of Vero Beach	20 43rd Avenue	Vero Beach	32968

Great info, Dracos...thanks for the retailer info. I'm pondering something. I saw 1490 announced as ending on the FL Lotto website, so was wondering if that's a tacit admission that any remaining top prizes are gone? I've seen similar activity with previous games. Either way I see that the #2 game 1491 is also with a final remaining win unclaimed but still going strong.

Either way hope all is going well and best of luck.

brocksampson

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May 23, 2023, 2:17 pm

$500 win.

Haven't played in awhile so it was a nice hit.
BicD

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May 23, 2023, 8:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by brocksampson on May 23, 2023
$500 win.

Haven't played in awhile so it was a nice hit.

That is a nice hit, congrats!!
Cape $cratcher

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May 24, 2023, 4:06 am

Quote: Originally posted by brocksampson on May 23, 2023
$500 win.

Haven't played in awhile so it was a nice hit.

Hi Brock, nice win on Pink for $500! That's a pretty ticket too, given how the multipliers are spaced out symmetrically.

Hope you keep scoring!
skeptic

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Jun 3, 2023, 8:50 am

$20K WCC - $10K Jubilee - $5K 200MS 454 $500's 52 $1k's 9 $400's
Cape $cratcher

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Jun 3, 2023, 12:59 pm

Quote: Originally posted by skeptic on Jun 3, 2023

Gotta love that BURST on the $500 Madness, congrats Skeptic!!

I notice too that this is yet another $500 from that game in the first third of the book (tickets 000 to 019), just like your PREVIOUS TWO!! I seem to find a disproportionate amount of them in that range even though I'll play it no matter what the ticket # is (and will find them elsewhere too, like the last one I got was ticket #33, but the one before it was 002 😉).

Hope to see you pop on some more great wins!
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Jun 6, 2023, 8:38 am

Congrats Skeptic & Brock !! glad to see you folks posting winners again. It's my only dosage of hope when I get one of these silly scratchers up here in TN. Just terrible up here.
Dracos

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Jun 7, 2023, 9:21 am

Quote: Originally posted by Cape $cratcher on May 7, 2023
Great info, Dracos...thanks for the retailer info. I'm pondering something. I saw 1490 announced as ending on the FL Lotto website, so was wondering if that's a tacit admission that any remaining top prizes are gone? I've seen similar activity with previous games. Either way I see that the #2 game 1491 is also with a final remaining win unclaimed but still going strong.

Either way hope all is going well and best of luck.

Looks like around 200-220 books of 1490 out there, along with 2k+ of the 1491 remaining. It would be insane for the $500 week for life game and/or $1000 week for life games to end with a final prize remaining. Can someone really miss a jackpot on a $1 or $2 scratchoff, or would "standard business practices" justify how with odds of 1 in 5,923,200 the final top prize just ended up being "discarded" or missed?

At any rate, people should we should find out soon enough if the game is going to end with an unclaimed top prize within the next several months...
gatorsrok

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Jun 7, 2023, 9:48 am

Remember, it is possible they were discarded by retailers when a new $1 or $2 dollar game was released.
oldghost

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Jun 8, 2023, 1:43 am

To avoid inaccurate information - those are the number of books IN STORES. The games both still show about 10% left in both of them, so well within the possibility, and likelihood, that the prizes are in that remaining 10%. Given that in the past, games typically end with something in the range of 2% unclaimed, there's a large amount of books still sitting in the warehouse.

Or it will be found tomorrow and the games end in 2 months, it's the lottery, who knows. My only point is that the above post is worded in a way that makes it sound like those are all the books in existence in the world and I do not believe FL Lotto started releasing that info on FOIAs.

If you ever want to know how much is unaccounted for, go look on the website and pick a mid level prize like the $10 prize on a $2 game. Divide the "prizes paid" by the "total prizes" for that prize level, resulting number is the percentage claimed for that prize level. Maybe do it for a second prize level too. It'll give you a generalized idea how much of the game is sold, though not precisely.

A step further:

Imagine a game with 4 top prizes. So, 1 grand prize every 25% is what should occur. (Like the $1 for Life game). The $5 prize level shows 211,911 claimed and 236,928 total. Divide the claimed by the total and you get .8944, or 89.44%. For the sake of it, same equation used on the $4 prize level shows .8849 or 88.49% claimed. So presumably ~89% sold. (Based on ILRs in this thread from years ago, ending games I believe showed in the neighborhood of 2% unclaimed at the very end of the game).

With 1 prize left, we're in the 89th percentile of the game. Since the last prize should fall between 75% and 100% of the game sold, the game is in the right area because it is 14 points over 75%. (I know, everyone knew the prize should be out, if you do this with other games it won't always work out that way obviously and just using this game as an example).

One more step, to get a little bit more information:

A prize falls every 25% for this game. So you know we're 14 points over 75%, but how far into that "section" of the last 25% is it, if it were its own game? With it 14 points over the prior "section", and there's 4 grand prizes, multiple the 14 by 4, and it's 56.

So if this last 25% of the ticket were it's own individual scratch off game with a single grand prize in it's entirety, it'd be 56% sold. That's generally shown as a good place for a winner. If FL Lotto & Co. doesn't control when the winning book is released and it is in fact random, then anything over 50% for this last number would be good.

Sorry for the long post, wanted people to be able to have all the information and an explanation for how it is derived so they can determine best how to spend their own money.
Dracos

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Jun 8, 2023, 9:17 am

Quote: Originally posted by oldghost on Jun 8, 2023
To avoid inaccurate information - those are the number of books IN STORES. The games both still show about 10% left in both of them, so well within the possibility, and likelihood, that the prizes are in that remaining 10%. Given that in the past, games typically end with something in the range of 2% unclaimed, there's a large amount of books still sitting in the warehouse.

Or it will be found tomorrow and the games end in 2 months, it's the lottery, who knows. My only point is that the above post is worded in a way that makes it sound like those are all the books in existence in the world and I do not believe FL Lotto started releasing that info on FOIAs.

If you ever want to know how much is unaccounted for, go look on the website and pick a mid level prize like the $10 prize on a $2 game. Divide the "prizes paid" by the "total prizes" for that prize level, resulting number is the percentage claimed for that prize level. Maybe do it for a second prize level too. It'll give you a generalized idea how much of the game is sold, though not precisely.

A step further:

Imagine a game with 4 top prizes. So, 1 grand prize every 25% is what should occur. (Like the $1 for Life game). The $5 prize level shows 211,911 claimed and 236,928 total. Divide the claimed by the total and you get .8944, or 89.44%. For the sake of it, same equation used on the $4 prize level shows .8849 or 88.49% claimed. So presumably ~89% sold. (Based on ILRs in this thread from years ago, ending games I believe showed in the neighborhood of 2% unclaimed at the very end of the game).

With 1 prize left, we're in the 89th percentile of the game. Since the last prize should fall between 75% and 100% of the game sold, the game is in the right area because it is 14 points over 75%. (I know, everyone knew the prize should be out, if you do this with other games it won't always work out that way obviously and just using this game as an example).

One more step, to get a little bit more information:

A prize falls every 25% for this game. So you know we're 14 points over 75%, but how far into that "section" of the last 25% is it, if it were its own game? With it 14 points over the prior "section", and there's 4 grand prizes, multiple the 14 by 4, and it's 56.

So if this last 25% of the ticket were it's own individual scratch off game with a single grand prize in it's entirety, it'd be 56% sold. That's generally shown as a good place for a winner. If FL Lotto & Co. doesn't control when the winning book is released and it is in fact random, then anything over 50% for this last number would be good.

Sorry for the long post, wanted people to be able to have all the information and an explanation for how it is derived so they can determine best how to spend their own money.

@Oldghost - To further clarify context for anyone who is reading/lurking...yes, good points for anyone considering playing either of those two games. By no means am I trying to assert that folks should senselessly/compulsively play these games. As you've pointed out, there are a ton of unknown variables here. I would personally rather take a shot at a $1 game or $2 game with $500k and $1M top prizes (pretaxes of course) over the typical $5k - $10k and $50k-$100k top prizes.

Also, to expand on your points...the listing of a store doesn't clarify the number of books in inventory from that list as well. For example, a store like AK in Gainesville might be on that list and could have 10 books. We also don't know where the previous jackpot tickets were found too. In the past, lottery reps have also taken books from stores to redistribute to the warehouse and/or other high traffic stores. There are many unknown variables, such as number of books in the warehouse as you mentioned which many of us know can become quite inconsistent and shady as games are phased out and end on the "ending games list". It honestly wouldn't surprise me if one or both games ended with a top prize remaining. I'd personally still be willing to give either or both a shot, with $5 - $10 a pop.

@ Gators - Very good point as well. It is very possible that a top prize on one of both of these games was discarded when a major retailer like Publix returned partial books to make space for a $1 or $2 game.
Dracos

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Jun 8, 2023, 9:19 am

On another note, is anyone playing the $10 Payday Bonus game? I noticed it has had 7 prizes at the 2nd tier level claimed and still has 0 top prizes claimed. Without any of the top prizes claimed, I think this could be a decent option to play for anyone who likes the $10 games. I got $60 worth, got burned, and then haven't bought any since on that game.

As always, wishing everyone here luck with their scratching/lotto games.
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Jun 8, 2023, 10:17 am

For the payday game, I bet the top prizes had a single money bag symbol because in theory it would be easier to spot. But I know many people don't realize you only need a single money bag to win the prize. I bet that at least one or two top prizes were thrown away by people who didn't read the rules.
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Jun 8, 2023, 2:36 pm

Quote: Originally posted by gatorsrok on Jun 8, 2023
For the payday game, I bet the top prizes had a single money bag symbol because in theory it would be easier to spot. But I know many people don't realize you only need a single money bag to win the prize. I bet that at least one or two top prizes were thrown away by people who didn't read the rules.

That would be unfortunate, but definitely possible for that game. Imagine the sinking feeling if a person discovered they threw away a $2M winning ticket.
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Jun 8, 2023, 3:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by gatorsrok on Jun 8, 2023
For the payday game, I bet the top prizes had a single money bag symbol because in theory it would be easier to spot. But I know many people don't realize you only need a single money bag to win the prize. I bet that at least one or two top prizes were thrown away by people who didn't read the rules.

My guess is they stuck it in the BONUS spot. Even I missed that spot the first time I played it and I know they do tricky snit like that.

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