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Hi I think I'm getting your concept or maybe I' way off in left field, either way you got me to thinking.  My question to you is or any other reader is, how do I write the excel formula to find and count the following number after a certain number?  For example in the pick 3 midday the 8 is followed by the1 and 3 in the first column. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Get me your State P3 data, and I will simplify by example. The premise of all lottery games is Randomness, this concept can be perceived in mathematical (formula,algorithms,stata etc...) or  philosophical way, I choose the latter, and is a simple proposition: In a random space (0-9), I can't  be certain about the outcome of the event(draw set),but generating the space randomly gives a clue of elements behavior, am not concerned about the odds (mathematical) by rather my waging strategy;

NB: Prize Ratio is all that matters, not  Hit ratio.

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This chart helps to deduce the  pending sets/picks to wage.  Is effective way of waging str8 bet, Locating pairs and doubles with high percentage without guessing.

Concept: Most digits generates a  RECUR, so in  assumed draw set 123,  the first digit 1 generates a position 023,  the second digit 2 generates 915, and third 3 generates 467. I can form a Positional box with these sets:

Draw 123

SET A                    B                   C                D

Recurs set:0 9 4           or      0 9 4            0 1 6*           0 5 7

2  1 6 *                2  9 4            2 1 6 *         2 5 7*

3   5 7*                3  9 4            3  1 6  *        3 5 7*

Now , your main focus is set  A,  b,c,d gives you the pairs 94-16-57  to play, which pair do you select?  Use the draw set 123  to project the selection (*), set  C and D are most frequent so my picks will be 216-169-165-167 and 357-579-574-571-576. These picks should be waged for 7 days. The workout is general, you have a lot of room to move in your selection without deviating. Do a workout for your State, P4 and P5 follow the same REURRING CONCEPT but with a twist.

Note:Everything is sequential, be mindful of this fact when selecting picks, eg the digit 1 recurs 0-2-3, so my priority when considering selections or reducing picks is 0>2 >3.

Recurs chart

 digits P3 P4 0 816 8167 1 023 0239 2 915 9156 3 467 4678 4 560 5601 5 134 1349 6 247 2478 7 516 5168 8 235 2354 9 021 0214

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Let's use  Tri-state data  for P3 workout, you have box option or \$string in picks selection(positions are maintain in both  cases. Case A (box), Case B (\$string).  Case A  indicates clear pairs(details in formation), Case B is Summary of  A .

Now the Assumption is every member in the space  sample  during event/s  generates a follow-up(RECURRING)  element, hence a  Set could recur a SET. I want to  clarify here, for folks into  mathematics (stats, odds, algorithms etc..) see the  Red text, this is more philosophical( with a twist of Bayesian/Frequentist concept) approach.

Tri-State Data

Tue, May 14, 2013 Mon, May 13, 2013 Sun, May 12, 2013 Sat, May 11, 2013 Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 8-4-4 7-9-3-6 6-3-1 3-3-8 5-8-1-2 6-7-8-0 4-4-7 3-8-8 2-1-2-2 9-7-4-9 7-7-2 2-3-9 0-7-3-5 0-4-8-1 5-2-4 5-6-1 1-0-5-5 1-3-1-0 3-5-1 0-9-7 4-6-9-7 6-7-7-0 2-8-9 1-3-7 9-9-8-7 0-8-6-6 5-6-3 3-0-9 2-3-7-9 6-8-9-3 5-3-2 9-5-2 3-2-7-3 1-6-7-4 9-0-2 5-7-7 7-1-2-4 1-6-7-4

Take any draw date, say 5/5/2013  with set 902

From Chart 9 usually brings elements 0-2-1,  0 >8-1-6 and  2> 9-1-5, so let's form Box A

089

211

165

You can either form your picks from above box or deduce pairs by maintaining pos 1 and varying pos 2 and 3 as

089           011            065

289     >   211       >   265         This shows clear pairs 89-11-65(draw set elements usually helps in selection)

189          111            165

Case B is to compress  Case A into a \$string (Maintain pos while stringing, L-R/ Top/Bottom)

\$S 089211165

Reduce String by elements of draw set 9,0,2

Reduced String 811165 >0-9-2

single picks 8165 (wheel)  or doubles 811-116-115

NB : You various options  in deducing picks from A or B.

This Is just  Thought, Enhance it or keep blant critique!

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Get me your State P3 data, and I will simplify by example. The premise of all lottery games is Randomness, this concept can be perceived in mathematical (formula,algorithms,stata etc...) or  philosophical way, I choose the latter, and is a simple proposition: In a random space (0-9), I can't  be certain about the outcome of the event(draw set),but generating the space randomly gives a clue of elements behavior, am not concerned about the odds (mathematical) by rather my waging strategy;

NB: Prize Ratio is all that matters, not  Hit ratio.

Lindalu here from Cali. Is this the correct data you require?

Tue, May 14, 2013 Mon, May 13, 2013 Sun, May 12, 2013 Sat, May 11, 2013 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 1-0-8 5-4-7 8-4-8 2-4-7-9 0-2-1 9-7-6 1-0-7-8 1-7-1 9-2-2 6-8-8-2 2-0-4 7-3-7 0-5-6-8 3-5-7 3-8-7 1-4-1-1 3-9-0 4-3-8 7-4-4-6 3-6-8 5-7-9 7-9-5-3 1-8-7 4-2-8 3-6-7-1 2-5-7 3-7-9 9-7-1-3

Let me know if you need additional info,

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 e, May 14, 2013 7-3-9?Prize Payouts Mon, May 13, 2013 0-6-6?Prize Payouts Sun, May 12, 2013 7-9-5?Prize Payouts Sat, May 11, 2013 7-0-9?Prize Payouts Fri, May 10, 2013 9-2-6?Prize Payouts Thu, May 9, 2013 2-2-5?Prize Payouts Wed, May 8, 2013 8-1-7?Prize Payouts Tue, May 7, 2013 4-4-2?Prize Payouts Mon, May 6, 2013 5-8-4?Prize Payouts Sun, May 5, 2013 7-6-2?Prize Payouts Sat, May 4, 2013 9-2-5?Prize Payouts Fri, May 3, 2013 8-6-1?Prize Payouts Thu, May 2, 2013 7-2-4?Prize Payouts Wed, May 1, 2013 1-1-1?Prize Payouts Tue, Apr 30, 2013 9-2-0?Prize Payouts Mon, Apr 29, 2013 4-9-6?Prize Payouts Sun, Apr 28, 2013 5-9-3?Prize Payouts Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7-6-1?Prize Payouts Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9-6-3?Prize Payouts Thu, Apr 25, 2013 4-0-4?Prize Payouts Wed, Apr 24, 2013 3-5-2?Prize Payouts Tue, Apr 23, 2013 4-5-3?Prize Payouts Mon, Apr 22, 2013 1-1-5?Prize Payouts Sun, Apr 21, 2013 7-6-0?Prize Payouts Sat, Apr 20, 2013 0-6-0?Prize Payouts Fri, Apr 19, 2013 6-3-8?Prize Payouts Thu, Apr 18, 2013 1-4-6?Prize Payouts Wed, Apr 17, 2013 7-8-2?Prize Payouts Tue, Apr 16, 2013 7-9-9?Prize Payouts Mon, Apr 15, 2013 3-8-0?Prize Payouts Sun, Apr 14, 2013 0-2-6?Prize Payouts Sat, Apr 13, 2013 4-9-2?Prize Payouts Fri, Apr 12, 2013 0-9-1?Prize Payouts Thu, Apr 11, 2013 3-4-0?Prize Payouts Wed, Apr 10, 2013 5-4-8?Prize Payouts Tue, Apr 9, 2013 7-4-9?Prize Payouts

This the eve pck 3 for SC. Thanks for for the help.

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Lindalu here from Cali. Is this the correct data you require?

Tue, May 14, 2013 Mon, May 13, 2013 Sun, May 12, 2013 Sat, May 11, 2013 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 1-0-8 5-4-7 8-4-8 2-4-7-9 0-2-1 9-7-6 1-0-7-8 1-7-1 9-2-2 6-8-8-2 2-0-4 7-3-7 0-5-6-8 3-5-7 3-8-7 1-4-1-1 3-9-0 4-3-8 7-4-4-6 3-6-8 5-7-9 7-9-5-3 1-8-7 4-2-8 3-6-7-1 2-5-7 3-7-9 9-7-1-3

Let me know if you need additional info,

Lindalu

Lindalu and Alchmemist: See the workout for Tri-state above.

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Lindalu and Alchmemist: See the workout for Tri-state above.

I did, Sorry, I just get a lil lost sometimes and wanted to compare you come out with the same results to know I'm on the right track.

Lindalu.

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Lindalu here from Cali. Is this the correct data you require?

Tue, May 14, 2013 Mon, May 13, 2013 Sun, May 12, 2013 Sat, May 11, 2013 Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 1-0-8 5-4-7 8-4-8 2-4-7-9 0-2-1 9-7-6 1-0-7-8 1-7-1 9-2-2 6-8-8-2 2-0-4 7-3-7 0-5-6-8 3-5-7 3-8-7 1-4-1-1 3-9-0 4-3-8 7-4-4-6 3-6-8 5-7-9 7-9-5-3 1-8-7 4-2-8 3-6-7-1 2-5-7 3-7-9 9-7-1-3

Let me know if you need additional info,

Lindalu

Lindalu, my workout and yours may be similar, but the outcome of selecting picks may differ. The premise or the assumption behind the chart stays the same, is your perception and observation that counts.This is not automated system where you pluck numbers to yield picks to play.I did discuss two cases A and B  for selecting picks, choose the most convenient and stick to it, and don't change your mode(most of the time, we try to shape our workout to conform to already draw set, hence backtesting is inherently bias).

Assumption: Every member of the Pool (0 -9) has a follow-up(Recur) during the event,  each member and possible recurs are charted  below:

Recurs chart

 digits P3 P4 0 816 8167 1 023 0239 2 915 9156 3 467 4678 4 560 5601 5 134 1349 6 247 2478 7 516 5168 8 235 2354 9 021 0214

Case A(box method): Do not combine day/night in your workout (final picks valid for combined draws), let's start with draw set 187 of date 5/6/2013, from chart the recurs for 1>0,2,3 : 8 >2,3,5 :7>5,1,6(similar members on recurs side but different positions):

Set  1-8-7   Recurs    0-2-5      for 27 picks ( you don't want do that) or just bet the box

2-3-1

3-5-6

The box is a case for observation: How do you deduce info from above? is the positions consistent with the assumptions(recurs), pos 1>0-2-3  draw on dates  5/7 thru 5/12, check pos 2>2-3-5 on 5/9 thru 12. if pos 1 and 2 is consistent , then your focus in  pair selection is much narrowed.

Case B: convert Case A into a \$ string maintaining elements positions

025                                 Case B

231         >\$String     025231356( 025-231-356)

356

Case B is optimal  for doubles and single bets, reduce string by next draws set 368 (5/7/2013)

025231356 >025215  > 3-6 deleted from string

025215> singles 0251 (see positions are still maintained)

> doubles 225501

Now,  note the use of the terms 'elements or members' instead of digits, similar digits at different positions are different, so final picks should reflect this fact.

NB: Do your workout and select your picks before you verify  'backtest', don't try to do workout towards known draw set(Phrases like, ' should've filpped this dgit, missed by digit' etc indicates backtest towards known results).

Good Luck

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Lindalu, my workout and yours may be similar, but the outcome of selecting picks may differ. The premise or the assumption behind the chart stays the same, is your perception and observation that counts.This is not automated system where you pluck numbers to yield picks to play.I did discuss two cases A and B  for selecting picks, choose the most convenient and stick to it, and don't change your mode(most of the time, we try to shape our workout to conform to already draw set, hence backtesting is inherently bias).

Assumption: Every member of the Pool (0 -9) has a follow-up(Recur) during the event,  each member and possible recurs are charted  below:

Recurs chart

 digits P3 P4 0 816 8167 1 023 0239 2 915 9156 3 467 4678 4 560 5601 5 134 1349 6 247 2478 7 516 5168 8 235 2354 9 021 0214

Case A(box method): Do not combine day/night in your workout (final picks valid for combined draws), let's start with draw set 187 of date 5/6/2013, from chart the recurs for 1>0,2,3 : 8 >2,3,5 :7>5,1,6(similar members on recurs side but different positions):

Set  1-8-7   Recurs    0-2-5      for 27 picks ( you don't want do that) or just bet the box

2-3-1

3-5-6

The box is a case for observation: How do you deduce info from above? is the positions consistent with the assumptions(recurs), pos 1>0-2-3  draw on dates  5/7 thru 5/12, check pos 2>2-3-5 on 5/9 thru 12. if pos 1 and 2 is consistent , then your focus in  pair selection is much narrowed.

Case B: convert Case A into a \$ string maintaining elements positions

025                                 Case B

231         >\$String     025231356( 025-231-356)

356

Case B is optimal  for doubles and single bets, reduce string by next draws set 368 (5/7/2013)

025231356 >025215  > 3-6 deleted from string

025215> singles 0251 (see positions are still maintained)

> doubles 225501

Now,  note the use of the terms 'elements or members' instead of digits, similar digits at different positions are different, so final picks should reflect this fact.

NB: Do your workout and select your picks before you verify  'backtest', don't try to do workout towards known draw set(Phrases like, ' should've filpped this dgit, missed by digit' etc indicates backtest towards known results).

Good Luck

Great this helps alot. Thank you,

Lindalu

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Great this helps alot. Thank you,

Lindalu

keep your workout more on option B (case B), you don't need to guess when doubles is due so far as you maintain positions when \$stringing, eg., assumed final string 12235 indicates a single bet 1235 and doubles. Your pairs are the first and second elements (positions) >12-12-13-15 over 22-23-25(doubles), 12-13 over 23-25. Now as to the x missing digits, we've discussed several times, if the degree of certainty of the above pairs is high, then x  becomes more of betting strategy, my approach is ' constancy and persistence', meaning if a digit returns most of the time in next or two draws , then be constant with this approach, or you may choose the  a section of the pool after observation, but you have to stick to that(you strive for Prize Ratio not Hit ratio).

CAL

Fri, May 24, 2013 Thu, May 23, 2013 Wed, May 22, 2013 Tue, May 21, 2013 Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 5-0-8 9-1-2 1-4-3-9 7-3-3 9-4-0 1-9-9-2 5-8-3 0-3-5 1-5-5-8 1-7-5 8-6-5 4-9-1-4 3-3-9 8-4-7 9-7-8-7 3-2-8 3-6-4 1-3-4-8 0-1-0 8-1-0 6-0-6-1 6-5-2 3-5-6 6-5-7-8 6-7-9 8-4-2 8-3-3-7 2-3-2 4-3-8 5-6-8-0

Take draw set 339(5/20/2013), from chart , project case A(Box)

4 4 0                                                    440662771(your pairs mostly first digits,is positional)

6 6 2           convert to  string case B

7 7 1

Reduce Case B 44066277 by next draw 175 (5/21/2013) >440662

now you have single bet 4062(Pairs 40-46-06) and doubles 4466-0-2 (44-66) to consider.

The workout was generated from Evening draws, but final picks valid for combined draws, but if on strict budget then you might consider  only evenings.

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keep your workout more on option B (case B), you don't need to guess when doubles is due so far as you maintain positions when \$stringing, eg., assumed final string 12235 indicates a single bet 1235 and doubles. Your pairs are the first and second elements (positions) >12-12-13-15 over 22-23-25(doubles), 12-13 over 23-25. Now as to the x missing digits, we've discussed several times, if the degree of certainty of the above pairs is high, then x  becomes more of betting strategy, my approach is ' constancy and persistence', meaning if a digit returns most of the time in next or two draws , then be constant with this approach, or you may choose the  a section of the pool after observation, but you have to stick to that(you strive for Prize Ratio not Hit ratio).

CAL

Fri, May 24, 2013 Thu, May 23, 2013 Wed, May 22, 2013 Tue, May 21, 2013 Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 5-0-8 9-1-2 1-4-3-9 7-3-3 9-4-0 1-9-9-2 5-8-3 0-3-5 1-5-5-8 1-7-5 8-6-5 4-9-1-4 3-3-9 8-4-7 9-7-8-7 3-2-8 3-6-4 1-3-4-8 0-1-0 8-1-0 6-0-6-1 6-5-2 3-5-6 6-5-7-8 6-7-9 8-4-2 8-3-3-7 2-3-2 4-3-8 5-6-8-0

Take draw set 339(5/20/2013), from chart , project case A(Box)

4 4 0                                                    440662771(your pairs mostly first digits,is positional)

6 6 2           convert to  string case B

7 7 1

Reduce Case B 44066277 by next draw 175 (5/21/2013) >440662

now you have single bet 4062(Pairs 40-46-06) and doubles 4466-0-2 (44-66) to consider.

The workout was generated from Evening draws, but final picks valid for combined draws, but if on strict budget then you might consider  only evenings.

I hope the workout is working,  see the draws 940,066, 469(drawn between 22-26/2013)  from predicted pairs 40 46-06. Now  observe the set generator (339) or the pairs 40-46-06, your x  is mostly there.  Picks : 404-406-400-406-464-460-460-466-064-060-064-066(similar digits in pair are different elements) or 403-409-463-469-063-069( from set generator 339. Do more workout and see which x is frequent, then stick to it.

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Lindalu, my workout and yours may be similar, but the outcome of selecting picks may differ. The premise or the assumption behind the chart stays the same, is your perception and observation that counts.This is not automated system where you pluck numbers to yield picks to play.I did discuss two cases A and B  for selecting picks, choose the most convenient and stick to it, and don't change your mode(most of the time, we try to shape our workout to conform to already draw set, hence backtesting is inherently bias).

Assumption: Every member of the Pool (0 -9) has a follow-up(Recur) during the event,  each member and possible recurs are charted  below:

Recurs chart

 digits P3 P4 0 816 8167 1 023 0239 2 915 9156 3 467 4678 4 560 5601 5 134 1349 6 247 2478 7 516 5168 8 235 2354 9 021 0214

Case A(box method): Do not combine day/night in your workout (final picks valid for combined draws), let's start with draw set 187 of date 5/6/2013, from chart the recurs for 1>0,2,3 : 8 >2,3,5 :7>5,1,6(similar members on recurs side but different positions):

Set  1-8-7   Recurs    0-2-5      for 27 picks ( you don't want do that) or just bet the box

2-3-1

3-5-6

The box is a case for observation: How do you deduce info from above? is the positions consistent with the assumptions(recurs), pos 1>0-2-3  draw on dates  5/7 thru 5/12, check pos 2>2-3-5 on 5/9 thru 12. if pos 1 and 2 is consistent , then your focus in  pair selection is much narrowed.

Case B: convert Case A into a \$ string maintaining elements positions

025                                 Case B

231         >\$String     025231356( 025-231-356)

356

Case B is optimal  for doubles and single bets, reduce string by next draws set 368 (5/7/2013)

025231356 >025215  > 3-6 deleted from string

025215> singles 0251 (see positions are still maintained)

> doubles 225501

Now,  note the use of the terms 'elements or members' instead of digits, similar digits at different positions are different, so final picks should reflect this fact.

NB: Do your workout and select your picks before you verify  'backtest', don't try to do workout towards known draw set(Phrases like, ' should've filpped this dgit, missed by digit' etc indicates backtest towards known results).

Good Luck

The Recur chart should be viewed as Positional when selecting your picks, this reduces your picks.Let say I have a draw set 235, am more concerned about the positions 1 and 2, hence my recur 1=023  and 2=915 should be formed this way:02914(4 is recur from draw digit 5) and 23156(6 from 5). you best shot is  02-09 and 23-21. This is your BASE for high degree of certainty when opting for str8 bets, cost less, hit less, but prize is all matters.

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The Recur chart should be viewed as Positional when selecting your picks, this reduces your picks.Let say I have a draw set 235, am more concerned about the positions 1 and 2, hence my recur 1=023  and 2=915 should be formed this way:02914(4 is recur from draw digit 5) and 23156(6 from 5). you best shot is  02-09 and 23-21. This is your BASE for high degree of certainty when opting for str8 bets, cost less, hit less, but prize is all matters.

Thanks,  I'm trying. No hits yet, but I am hopeful.

Lindalu

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Thanks,  I'm trying. No hits yet, but I am hopeful.

Lindalu

I gave up when she said the prize is all that matters. The prize is standard almost everywhere.If you can't

hit it means nothing. Good luck to you....

God Bless...

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I gave up when she said the prize is all that matters. The prize is standard almost everywhere.If you can't

hit it means nothing. Good luck to you....

God Bless...

Subsetting, Targeting, Few picks, means few hits but high prize ratio. playing 20 picks for a hit of \$40 or \$500 is not good strategy overtime(unless you have huge bankroll), I'll rather spend say \$10 on a targeted pick say 123 (\$6 combo bet, 50cent box for insurance).You need to come out with your own style of play, a system is as good as you, observation, inference then you own it, hanging on my predicted picks to win is not a good route to take, understand the Assumptions  'RECURS', the base is all you need.

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This chart helps to deduce the  pending sets/picks to wage.  Is effective way of waging str8 bet, Locating pairs and doubles with high percentage without guessing.

Concept: Most digits generates a  RECUR, so in  assumed draw set 123,  the first digit 1 generates a position 023,  the second digit 2 generates 915, and third 3 generates 467. I can form a Positional box with these sets:

Draw 123

SET A                    B                   C                D

Recurs set:0 9 4           or      0 9 4            0 1 6*           0 5 7

2  1 6 *                2  9 4            2 1 6 *         2 5 7*

3   5 7*                3  9 4            3  1 6  *        3 5 7*

Now , your main focus is set  A,  b,c,d gives you the pairs 94-16-57  to play, which pair do you select?  Use the draw set 123  to project the selection (*), set  C and D are most frequent so my picks will be 216-169-165-167 and 357-579-574-571-576. These picks should be waged for 7 days. The workout is general, you have a lot of room to move in your selection without deviating. Do a workout for your State, P4 and P5 follow the same REURRING CONCEPT but with a twist.

Note:Everything is sequential, be mindful of this fact when selecting picks, eg the digit 1 recurs 0-2-3, so my priority when considering selections or reducing picks is 0>2 >3.

Recurs chart

 digits P3 P4 0 816 8167 1 023 0239 2 915 9156 3 467 4678 4 560 5601 5 134 1349 6 247 2478 7 516 5168 8 235 2354 9 021 0214

Sharing ideals is good , blant critique is waste opportunity!

RECUR assumption is positional , is inherent , test it for betting strategy.Take any draw set, say 123 with recur set

094     observe the behavior /positions of first 2 digits for inference in subsequent draws

216

357

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