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# Ideas for a P-4 system

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OM

Where are you at as far as the 3rd digit ?

The pairs method worked  21 times since June 7 th

But if I attempt to put into excel, what am I doing after I identify the pairs  ??

Carlig

My latest method to get the third digit was to only play numbers not in their own group.

Example of the two groups: 0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

So If you choose to play the 32 consecutive pair, you team that pair up with 5-6-7-8-9. I wrote earlier that about 70% of the time, a consecutive pair's third elusive digit won't have a number from it's own group. So my picks for 32 would be 325-326-327-328-329.

Like you wrote earlier to someone else, it's probably not neccessary to put this into excel. It's not complicated and can be done in a matter of seconds, but If you're bored and want to do it, go for it. lol

However, after the numbers have been calculated, to reduce the combos, I've chosen a couple of filters to reduce cost. These filters in my opinion don't compromise the system too much risking winning combos not being played.

The two filters I use are,

1. Only use the consecutive pairs that match pairs from about 5 days ago, give or take a day. Pairs have a regular habit of repeating every 5 days or so.

2. Once the combos have been created, only play combos that have a sum between 11-19, since most of the winning numbers tend to show in that range.

So for Florida midday today, the last 4 draws had only one combo with a consecutive pair in it (435), so it's primed to hit soon. 50% of June's Florida winning numbers had consecutive pairs.

July 1 mid-481     eve-435

July 2 mid-684     eve-848

Now, the way I see it, the 48 pair has shown three times already, so I believe it's done. That's like an intuition filter that can also be used. It's just common sense sometimes. Well, with Florida we may see that pair show two more times..lol

Personally I'm going to use the 6 only for today's mid. Just being cautious until the 48 creeper goes away, and the randomness returns to a more stable state. lol

BUT I JUST HVE THIS FUNNY FEELING I SHOULD ALSO USE THE 8, BUT I WONT.

Mid: 65/ 67

650-651-652-653-654 / 670-671-672-673-674

Since the cost has already been reduced considering I'm only using one number (6), the two filters won't apply to those combos for the mid prediction above. But it already meets the sum 11-19 filter naturally anyways.

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c'mon carlig go for it with his blessing to teach us seniors a lesson.Class is open lol

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c'mon carlig go for it with his blessing to teach us seniors a lesson.Class is open lol

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My latest method to get the third digit was to only play numbers not in their own group.

Example of the two groups: 0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

So If you choose to play the 32 consecutive pair, you team that pair up with 5-6-7-8-9. I wrote earlier that about 70% of the time, a consecutive pair's third elusive digit won't have a number from it's own group. So my picks for 32 would be 325-326-327-328-329.

Like you wrote earlier to someone else, it's probably not neccessary to put this into excel. It's not complicated and can be done in a matter of seconds, but If you're bored and want to do it, go for it. lol

However, after the numbers have been calculated, to reduce the combos, I've chosen a couple of filters to reduce cost. These filters in my opinion don't compromise the system too much risking winning combos not being played.

The two filters I use are,

1. Only use the consecutive pairs that match pairs from about 5 days ago, give or take a day. Pairs have a regular habit of repeating every 5 days or so.

2. Once the combos have been created, only play combos that have a sum between 11-19, since most of the winning numbers tend to show in that range.

So for Florida midday today, the last 4 draws had only one combo with a consecutive pair in it (435), so it's primed to hit soon. 50% of June's Florida winning numbers had consecutive pairs.

July 1 mid-481     eve-435

July 2 mid-684     eve-848

Now, the way I see it, the 48 pair has shown three times already, so I believe it's done. That's like an intuition filter that can also be used. It's just common sense sometimes. Well, with Florida we may see that pair show two more times..lol

Personally I'm going to use the 6 only for today's mid. Just being cautious until the 48 creeper goes away, and the randomness returns to a more stable state. lol

BUT I JUST HVE THIS FUNNY FEELING I SHOULD ALSO USE THE 8, BUT I WONT.

Mid: 65/ 67

650-651-652-653-654 / 670-671-672-673-674

Since the cost has already been reduced considering I'm only using one number (6), the two filters won't apply to those combos for the mid prediction above. But it already meets the sum 11-19 filter naturally anyways.

July 1 mid-481     eve-435

July 2 mid-684     eve-848

July 3 mid-712

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

So no win, but you can clearly see that the 7 in 712 was not in the same group as 0-1-2-3-4. This what I was speaking about above in my quote. It happens quite often, so I love this filter.

Ok, for tonight's Florida draw,

We'll be using the 7, 1 and 2.

Consecutive pairs: 76-78 / 10-12 / 23

Combos: 760-761-762-763-764 /780-781-782-783-784

105-106-107-108-109 / 125-126-127-128-129

235-236-237-238-239

First filter, use only combos that match pairs from 5 days ago, give a day, take a day. After looking back I see that the 12 and 23 are the only two pairs that match which are below..

125-126-127-128-129 / 235-236-237-238-239

The final filter is using only combos that have a sum between 11-19. They are highlighted in red below.

125-126-127-128-129 / 235-236-237-238-239

That's it ! 6 combos ready to play for tonight.

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pairs 64 84  just trying  to help hope you I hope you do not mind ...I read all of your statements

greeneyes from texas .good luck I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT..

Thanks All

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I still dont see how I could possibly excel this .. Like OM says , A lot of it is you deciding which way to go . The pairs are easy but like he says above, if he picks the 32 pair he does one thing, if he picks the 78 pair he would do something different .. If I excel it with all possibilities you would end up with 60 combos to play..

I understand exactly what OM is doing, I just dont know of an effective way to excel it. .

Carlig

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July 1 mid-481     eve-435

July 2 mid-684     eve-848

July 3 mid-712

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

So no win, but you can clearly see that the 7 in 712 was not in the same group as 0-1-2-3-4. This what I was speaking about above in my quote. It happens quite often, so I love this filter.

Ok, for tonight's Florida draw,

We'll be using the 7, 1 and 2.

Consecutive pairs: 76-78 / 10-12 / 23

Combos: 760-761-762-763-764 /780-781-782-783-784

105-106-107-108-109 / 125-126-127-128-129

235-236-237-238-239

First filter, use only combos that match pairs from 5 days ago, give a day, take a day. After looking back I see that the 12 and 23 are the only two pairs that match which are below..

125-126-127-128-129 / 235-236-237-238-239

The final filter is using only combos that have a sum between 11-19. They are highlighted in red below.

125-126-127-128-129 / 235-236-237-238-239

That's it ! 6 combos ready to play for tonight.

 Florida 7-1-2 7-0-9

217, 947, 987, 907

they was even on the same line did you see that?

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Kinda quiet in here??..................... lol

WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY

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This is driving me nuts ! lol

July 2nd was the last time Florida had a win. This what I was writing about earlier when I said it can take a long break,  thus the reason to reduce the cost. But what really pisses me off is the fact that despite the lack of wins, consecutive numbers have been popping up left and right since July 2nd. The problem is that they haven't been conforming to my rule about one number from the previous repeating with a consecutive pair. It's frustrating because half the work has already been done, and I can't find a way to get an edge over the win/loss ratio if I play every consecutive pair.

Below is the consecutive pairs that showed and not conforming to my repeat rule after July 2nd.

July 3 mid-712     eve-709

July 5 mid-71      eve-439

July 6 eve-561

And did you notice that my rule of using numbers from the opposite group hits most often?

Groups:

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

712

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

718

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

439

0-1-2-3-4 / 5-6-7-8-9

561

Four out of five were followed through with my suspicions about that filter.

I have no choice but to push my brain to the limit. Love that song. Push it to the limit. I know it's 80's cheesy music but it brings back memories lol

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BRUUUUUUHHAAAAAAAA!!!

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OM  a filter suggestion.  count the # of unique digits in past three games.  lets assume 7 . this is your target number .  now count the unique digits in the past two games, plus the unique digits in any combination you might be considering.  if the total is not your target number plus or minus 1 reject it.  in my game this is very consistent 80-85%. like everything in lottery it's not 100% and it may not work with your game.

example

draw  count last 3 games

1 8 8    7

3 7 4    6

4 0 9    7

3 0 8    7  this one would be an exception to this rule

7 4  6   5

1 0 0    4

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OM  a filter suggestion.  count the # of unique digits in past three games.  lets assume 7 . this is your target number .  now count the unique digits in the past two games, plus the unique digits in any combination you might be considering.  if the total is not your target number plus or minus 1 reject it.  in my game this is very consistent 80-85%. like everything in lottery it's not 100% and it may not work with your game.

example

draw  count last 3 games

1 8 8    7

3 7 4    6

4 0 9    7

3 0 8    7  this one would be an exception to this rule

7 4  6   5

1 0 0    4

Thanks, but I don't understand. Please use real numbers from a state with the dates next to the winning numbers.

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I was looking at the Florida numbers and saw something that can aid in using all consecutive pairs for a profit, but one has to play online and have very deep pockets. lol

I tested the past 66 days and it showed a net profit of \$4,320 after the 66 day testing period. But before you get excited, you'd have to have a little over \$31,000 on hand. lol

The method is simple. I noticed that if you take a consecutive pair and use their mirrors for the third number, plus down 1 and up 1 on the end of the combo, then play all 6 ways, it will show a profit, but again, this test was only for 66 days, or 132 draws.

The combos never change. Below are the combos with their 1 up and 1 down incorporated into them. I will not take the time to post every 6 way of the combo, but the total combos played would be 240.

Before I post the combos, I want to describe how I made them. Example below,

Starting with 01 we need a third number to make a combo, so I add the mirrors for each of the digits, 0 and 1. The mirror of 0=5, and the mirror of 1=6, so our first combo is 015, and our second combo is 016.

015-016

Now we go down and up by 1 in the third positions, 014 and 017.

015-016-014-017

Now we play every way for each combo to get a straight hit.

015-051-105-150-510-501

Do this for the remaining combos:016-014-017

The cost in my test was 132X240=31,680 ( 240.00 bucks a draw for 132 draws)

Won: \$36,000 (Won 40 draws @ 900.00 playing online) (40X900=36,000)

Net Profit: \$4,320.00 (36,000-31,680)

Daily net profit: \$65.45

That's 458 bucks a week doing nothing but placing an order online.

Of course a longer test would be needed for this. But I'm going to spend the next few hours figuring out how to find an indicator that shows which set to play and reduce cost.

Total combos below: (before all six ways) Just to show you a short example I will show July below.

015-016-014-017

126-127-125-128----------July 3 mid-712

237-238-236-239

348-349-347-340----------July 5 eve-439

459-450-458-451

560-561-569-562----------July 6 eve-561

671-672-670-673

782-783-781-784----------July 5 mid-718

893-894-892-895

904-905-903-906

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I just got an idea. Maybe play the last three overdue sets. Notice that not one of the four wins below was from a set that won already. I noticed this and went back farther to see, and sure enough, most of the time, wins were from a new set.

015-016-014-017

126-127-125-128----------July 3 mid-712

237-238-236-239

348-349-347-340----------July 5 eve-439

459-450-458-451

560-561-569-562----------July 6 eve-561

671-672-670-673

782-783-781-784----------July 5 mid-718

893-894-892-895

904-905-903-906

======================================================================

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So below you'll see that I went back far enough to leave the three most overdue sets. I'm not a fan of overdue systems, but this one seems to behave differently than single digit number behavior when considering overdues.

Let's see If my theory proves it self. Test is just boxed only for now.

015-016-014-017----------No hit since June 26 eve-601

126-127-125-128----------July 3 mid-712

237-238-236-239----------June 29 mid-237

348-349-347-340----------July 5 eve-439

459-450-458-451----------No hit since June 2 mid-459----This is why i don't like playing overdue anything

560-561-569-562----------July 6 eve-561

671-672-670-673----------No hit since June 20 eve-276

782-783-781-784----------July 5 mid-718

893-894-892-895----------June 30 mid-948

904-905-903-906----------June 29 mid-327

So, we have the three most overdue sets to play,

015-016-014-017

459-450-458-451

671-672-670-673

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OM  I don't include dates in my data file. the attached is ky p3 eve data as of yesterday. the 4th digit is the uniqe digit count for 3 games.  the last unique digit count is 7 so, the digit count after the next game will most likely be 6,7,or 8. the past two games have a digit count of 5. the next comb needs to add 1,2, or 3 new unique #'s to the past two games or I reject it.  ex  the comb 234 adds a 2 and would pass this filter.  873 adds nothing and would be rejected.  256 adds 3 new digits and would pass this filter.  since it works 80%+ it won't remove a lot of comb.  some people prefer 50/50 filters,  I would rather use 2 or 3 80% filters.  just personal preference. the hilited drawings have nothing to do with this filter. they show drawings in which all 3 #'s were in the 3 games just prior to the draw

 1 8 8 7 3 7 4 6 4 0 9 7 3 0 8 7 7 4 6 5 1 0 0 4 0 0 4 6 3 1 4 6 2 1 5 5 3 9 5 6 1 1 2 6 7 3 1 7 4 0 4 5 9 6 4 4 6 7 7 5 6 4 9 6 7 4 2 5 4 1 2 6 3 1 2 6 8 5 5 6 2 5 7 7 8 1 6 8 5 4 5 7 7 3 0 6 6 7 8 6 6 1 6 7 8 2 0 6 7 9 0 5 3 3 8 4 9 8 9 5 5 9 3 6 4 3 8 6 9 9 7 6 3 3 1 5 8 0 1 4 0 1 4 4

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