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Posted: July 28, 2013, 12:19 am - IP Logged

OK so I had 4 out of the 6 numbers in tonights NY lotto. But the problem is my wheel combinations had no combos with all 4 together. I Only managed a 3 spot with my wheel. It was a 3/4 wheel so it passed its guarantee but sure would have liked better results. Im sure another problem was I used 20 numbers for my picks but you would figure having 70 combos for the output would have gave me that 4 spot somewhere. O well back to the drawing board. Does anyone have any suggestions other than the obvious to reduce my field of numbers further?

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    Posted: July 28, 2013, 8:30 am - IP Logged

    Wait, you played 70 lines for a 3if4of20 wheel?  That's your problem right there — you're spending way too much for that guarantee.

    Have you looked at the LP Abbreviated Wheels for Pick 6?  You could add a number to your number pool with the same guarantee (3if4of21) and play only 40 lines.  Or you could play a 4if6of20 with only 66 lines.

    There are a huge number of other Abbreviated wheels to check out here.  Check the notes on the right side of the grid to pick out the special wheels, such as the highly balanced wheels.

    www.lotterypost.com/wheels

     

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      Posted: July 28, 2013, 9:05 am - IP Logged

      Wait, you played 70 lines for a 3if4of20 wheel?  That's your problem right there — you're spending way too much for that guarantee.

      Have you looked at the LP Abbreviated Wheels for Pick 6?  You could add a number to your number pool with the same guarantee (3if4of21) and play only 40 lines.  Or you could play a 4if6of20 with only 66 lines.

      There are a huge number of other Abbreviated wheels to check out here.  Check the notes on the right side of the grid to pick out the special wheels, such as the highly balanced wheels.

      www.lotterypost.com/wheels

      Thanks I will use the wheels here for my numbers next time. Looks like they are far more superior!

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        I'm not going to judge the wheel you used as for that many lines there should have been multiple guarantees, two three number wins, that sort of thing.  You can play a (22,6,3,3)=77, 3if3of6in22 numbers 77 lines for that kind of money. Some wheels are fat and bloated because you're supposed to filter them down to budget.

        Anway, no matter your source, you should always try making the wheel yourself in CoverMaster if for no better reason then to see how they compare.  CoverMaster is free at www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html

        I entered . . .
        Pool 20
        Pick 6
        Match 3
        Hits 4
        [Generate][Optimized][Start] made the (20,6,3,4) wheel in 39 lines right out of the gate.

        CoverMaster does not make split wheels (unless you choose to) that make it impossible to win a jackpot in most draws.

        BobP

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          I'm not going to judge the wheel you used as for that many lines there should have been multiple guarantees, two three number wins, that sort of thing.  You can play a (22,6,3,3)=77, 3if3of6in22 numbers 77 lines for that kind of money. Some wheels are fat and bloated because you're supposed to filter them down to budget.

          Anway, no matter your source, you should always try making the wheel yourself in CoverMaster if for no better reason then to see how they compare.  CoverMaster is free at www.lotto-logix.com/wheellinks.html

          I entered . . .
          Pool 20
          Pick 6
          Match 3
          Hits 4
          [Generate][Optimized][Start] made the (20,6,3,4) wheel in 39 lines right out of the gate.

          CoverMaster does not make split wheels (unless you choose to) that make it impossible to win a jackpot in most draws.

          BobP

          I appreciate the advice I will give it a try thanks! Just need a password because covermaster download is an encrypted file. It wont let me unzip the file without it.

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            Posted: July 29, 2013, 3:58 am - IP Logged

            I appreciate the advice I will give it a try thanks! Just need a password because covermaster download is an encrypted file. It wont let me unzip the file without it.


            Yes, you have to email the author for the password, it is free, just a pain.  However, just above that download is the previous version that doesn't need a password.  Exactly the same only you have to manually restart the optimizer for each run, fun to play with until the password arrives.  If it doesn't let me know.

            BobP

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              Posted: July 29, 2013, 4:17 am - IP Logged

              Playing 21 numbers, I estimate that you need to get 6/21 to win net average.

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                Posted: July 29, 2013, 8:39 am - IP Logged

                I've had good luck using the wheels for fantasy 5, not so much for powerball of mega millions, just putting it out there.

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                  Posted: July 29, 2013, 9:08 am - IP Logged

                  what about the pick 10 games any to work for themWhat?

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                    Posted: July 29, 2013, 5:46 pm - IP Logged

                    Fun playing with the cover master wheels, i like it! Thanks for the heads up on that! Since I always seem to end up with about 20 numbers I think I might start using that modified system 20 I posted in the systems forum just to be sure I get max coverage on my picks instead of wheeling 1000's of combos.


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                      Posted: July 29, 2013, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

                      what about the pick 10 games any to work for themWhat?

                      Pick 10? Is that the same as Keno?

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                          Posted: July 29, 2013, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                          I choose

                           Do I get to pick 10/50.... 10/ 100.... 10/150.... or what?

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                            Posted: July 29, 2013, 6:43 pm - IP Logged

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                              I choose

                               Do I get to pick 10/50.... 10/ 100.... 10/150.... or what?

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