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Posted: August 6, 2013, 12:04 am - IP Logged

Should you find a pattern

Digits out 5 draws.. 0 or 1

with Short sum longest out... 0 or 1

know that its potent.

Single Vtracs 1-2

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    BA,

    I've created an Excel program that calculates longest out digits by position and all positions.  Also calculate the longest out Sums, Root Sums, and Short Sums.

    Sums = 9-9-9 = 27

    Root Sums = 9-9-9 = 27 Root Sum = 9

    Short Sums = 9-9-9 = 27 Short Sum = 7

    I did this using the Delaware example in this thread but I'm stumped on how you arrive at your Pick 3 selections.  It would seem you are using the longest out 3 digits from "all" positions and from these digits you filter using the longest out sums.

    Can you post your calculations on this thread or send me a PM if possible?

    Thanks

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      Hi winsumloosesum

      Admire your programing skills...being ole skool I do most calculations by hand(choice)

      Correct on your assessment.Here 's how I showed in the past.

      Mon, Jul 29, 20135-8-89-2-5
      Sun, Jul 28, 20139-2-0
      Sat, Jul 27, 20135-8-47-7-8
      Fri, Jul 26, 20130-9-62-2-3
      Thu, Jul 25, 20137-4-31-1-0

                    Short sums

      925=6

      588=1

      920=1

      778=2

      584=7

      223=7

      096=5

      110=2

      Do you see now?

      The repeats in light grey are short sum not needed

      So I will do every draw backwards,omitting the repeats now

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        BA,

        I've created an Excel program that calculates longest out digits by position and all positions.  Also calculate the longest out Sums, Root Sums, and Short Sums.

        Sums = 9-9-9 = 27

        Root Sums = 9-9-9 = 27 Root Sum = 9

        Short Sums = 9-9-9 = 27 Short Sum = 7

        I did this using the Delaware example in this thread but I'm stumped on how you arrive at your Pick 3 selections.  It would seem you are using the longest out 3 digits from "all" positions and from these digits you filter using the longest out sums.

        Can you post your calculations on this thread or send me a PM if possible?

        Thanks

        I dont think it has much to do with longest out Sums. When I put Black Apple's numbers in my visual Pick 3 wheel I found that all the numbers were single vtracs (1-2) with the pairs 01 06 51 56. The timing is what I do not understand.

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                 Short sums

          925=6

          588=1

          778=2

          584=7

          096=5

          743=4

          630=9

          260=8

          111=3

          532=0

           

          Your longest out short sums

          As you know Digits 1-6-3 are out

          thus can be used as key digits..example

          Needed Short sum 8...170

          Needed Short sum 3...012 

          Mon, Jul 29, 20135-8-89-2-5
          Sun, Jul 28, 20139-2-0
          Sat, Jul 27, 20135-8-47-7-8

           Actually if you read into this link here..the secret is there.

          Root sums and sums... one approach

           

          Pretty much every thing you can

          ascribe a short sum to will work(front pairs,back pairs,,etc)

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            For IL I can clearly see that short sums 7,2,0 are the longest out. Now what?

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              Mon, Jul 29, 20135-8-89-2-5
              Sun, Jul 28, 20139-2-0
              Sat, Jul 27, 20135-8-47-7-8
               
              Delaware Lottery
               
              Why must one of these hit?
               
               
              569 145 046 019
              256 157 067 012
              356 158 068 013
              456 159 069 014
              567 125 026 017
              568 135 036 018

              BA,

              I'm using your Delaware example from the opening thread.

              My calculations are using the Delaware combined draws.

              I'm using your selections and it seems your selecting this group also because each set contains either a 1, 6, or 3

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                I like those short sums 7,2,0..the condition I favor

                Short sum vtrac 3 due

                The wait time unclear...I would not tackle it

                because..hint: Its how you start that counts

                http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/235517

                 

                Root sums and sums... one approach
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                  and it seems your selecting this group also because each set contains either a 1, 6, or 3

                  Thats right..And if thats not good enough use the short sum digits 0-8-3

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                    Posted: August 6, 2013, 2:12 pm - IP Logged

                    Jordan, winsumloosesum..and other seekers

                    Vtracs does the work

                    You want your first four draws cover only two vtracs

                    It has to be two vtracs...In this case Vtracs 2 & 3 covered

                    which means vtrac 1,4 & 5 are up for grabs..post traps.

                    Since Short sum 3-8..aka vtrac 4  longest out,condition

                    are more favorable for it.

                     

                    Short sums

                    925=6

                    588=1

                    778=2

                    584=7

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                      I think I understand how you arrived at the 1, 6, 3 from the screen shot below.

                      Since these were the longest out skips for all 3 positions 1, 2, and 3

                      The last draw for Delaware was on July 29, 2013.  Based on your 1st post I think this is your last drawing also that you used to calculate your upcoming selections.

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                        I like those short sums 7,2,0..the condition I favor

                        Short sum vtrac 3 due

                        The wait time unclear...I would not tackle it

                        because..hint: Its how you start that counts

                        http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/235517

                         

                        Root sums and sums... one approach

                        I do not understand...Do I wait for one of the short sums to come before I go ahead?

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                          So your taking the past "short sums" 0 through 9 and converting to VTRAC's?

                          I added this to my spreadsheet and wanted to see if this is correct.

                          Below I highlighted the "short sums" starting with the last Delaware drawing on July 29 going backwards in time.  I also highlighted the "short sum VTRAC" column.  The small chart to the right I placed arrows to the longest out VTRAC's for the short sums which are 4, 5, and 1.  4 not appearing in 11 draws which is really Short Sums 3 & 8 and VTRAC 5 which is Short Sums 4 & 9 which is out 9 draws.

                          Hope I got this correct.  The VTRAC 2 & 3 has repeated a few times in the last 6 to 8 drawings.

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                            Wed, Jul 31, 20132-3-6   Short sum 1
                            Tue, Jul 30, 20139-0-7   Short sum 6
                            Mon, Jul 29, 20136-7-5   Short sum 8
                            Sun, Jul 28, 20137-3-6   Short sum 6

                            Same premise here

                            The recent four short sum has the

                            needed only two vtracs ..short sum 1&6=Vtrac 2

                                                                short sum 8=Vtrac 4

                            Which means the other short sums/vtracs

                            are begging appearance especially longest out ones.

                            A whole vtrac short sum 1-6,3-8,2-7 etc

                            is ideal and what I look for.

                            *********************************

                            Nightstaiker Pa. evening 8/1-8/7

                            Vtrac 3 longest out=Short sum 2 & 7

                            Notice how I used the short sum digits as key digits

                            025 034 124 179 269 278 458 467 
                            048 057 129 147 237 246 345 679 

                             

                            Using a running series (the reappearances of digits) or if three digits are out use them as key digits.

                            I like combined scenarios ..single draw takes longer but cheaper if you know when to play

                            I give it 7  or 8 draws...

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                              Wed, Jul 31, 20132-3-6   Short sum 1
                              Tue, Jul 30, 20139-0-7   Short sum 6
                              Mon, Jul 29, 20136-7-5   Short sum 8
                              Sun, Jul 28, 20137-3-6   Short sum 6

                              Same premise here

                              The recent four short sum has the

                              needed only two vtracs ..short sum 1&6=Vtrac 2

                                                                  short sum 8=Vtrac 4

                              Which means the other short sums/vtracs

                              are begging appearance especially longest out ones.

                              A whole vtrac short sum 1-6,3-8,2-7 etc

                              is ideal and what I look for.

                              *********************************

                              Nightstaiker Pa. evening 8/1-8/7

                              Vtrac 3 longest out=Short sum 2 & 7

                              Notice how I used the short sum digits as key digits

                              025 034 124 179 269 278 458 467 
                              048 057 129 147 237 246 345 679 

                               

                              Using a running series (the reappearances of digits) or if three digits are out use them as key digits.

                              I like combined scenarios ..single draw takes longer but cheaper if you know when to play

                              I give it 7  or 8 draws...

                              I get it Now. Thanks Blackapple

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