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What is the minimum sample size needed to give you an edge?

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What is your minimum size for good predictions?

10 games [ 8 ]  [38.10%]
50 games [ 3 ]  [14.29%]
100 games [ 3 ]  [14.29%]
500 games [ 2 ]  [9.52%]
other [ 4 ]  [19.05%]
Previous games don't help [ 1 ]  [4.76%]
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Posted: December 19, 2013, 2:37 am - IP Logged

Everybody has thier own system. I am curious, what is do you think the minimum amount of previous/historical games is required for your system to work? Even if you don't have an in depth type of system, how many games back do you look at to make your prediction. Please, state the game type you are talking about (p3, p4, p5...etc).

As for me, I like to have about 150 historical games for a p5 game. It seems to give me pretty much a full range of the highs, lows and trends that will occur in a filter. Obviously, the larger the sample size the more accurate your info becomes. But, 150 seems to work for me.

Thanks in advance for any comments you wish to make. *S*

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    Posted: December 19, 2013, 3:41 am - IP Logged

    Everybody has thier own system. I am curious, what is do you think the minimum amount of previous/historical games is required for your system to work? Even if you don't have an in depth type of system, how many games back do you look at to make your prediction. Please, state the game type you are talking about (p3, p4, p5...etc).

    As for me, I like to have about 150 historical games for a p5 game. It seems to give me pretty much a full range of the highs, lows and trends that will occur in a filter. Obviously, the larger the sample size the more accurate your info becomes. But, 150 seems to work for me.

    Thanks in advance for any comments you wish to make. *S*

    My system is designed to pick numbers from historical data so it needs as a minimum enough history for all the numbers in the matrix to have hit at least twice.  I'm still waiting for all the numbers in the new MM matrix to hit at least once. 

    In the last MM drawing, all the winning numbers had hit in the previous 39 drawings but their sum of 98 was the lowest since the matrix was changed.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: December 19, 2013, 4:05 am - IP Logged

      Pick 3-4 i use only 10 draws each

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          Posted: December 19, 2013, 11:12 pm - IP Logged

          Everybody has thier own system. I am curious, what is do you think the minimum amount of previous/historical games is required for your system to work? Even if you don't have an in depth type of system, how many games back do you look at to make your prediction. Please, state the game type you are talking about (p3, p4, p5...etc).

          As for me, I like to have about 150 historical games for a p5 game. It seems to give me pretty much a full range of the highs, lows and trends that will occur in a filter. Obviously, the larger the sample size the more accurate your info becomes. But, 150 seems to work for me.

          Thanks in advance for any comments you wish to make. *S*

          Depends on the system I'm using at the time. I'm always looking to improve on what I'm doing so my systems are always

          evolving. To answer the question, I've gone back 20 draws and as few as 2 for the P3 & P4 games. I look for whatever

          the current trends are, so I don't pay much attention to whatever happened last month or 6 months ago.

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            Posted: December 19, 2013, 11:13 pm - IP Logged

            I believe what's happening now reflects the current trend.

            Data from 100-150 games ago is not important to me.

            I like the last two draws as a reference.

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              Posted: December 26, 2013, 7:58 am - IP Logged

              I use a 5 day chart on p3 and p4 in missouri,most of the time it shows the trends.I have noticed at times however that 6-7 days will also provide a hot or key number.

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                Posted: December 26, 2013, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

                Everybody has thier own system. I am curious, what is do you think the minimum amount of previous/historical games is required for your system to work? Even if you don't have an in depth type of system, how many games back do you look at to make your prediction. Please, state the game type you are talking about (p3, p4, p5...etc).

                As for me, I like to have about 150 historical games for a p5 game. It seems to give me pretty much a full range of the highs, lows and trends that will occur in a filter. Obviously, the larger the sample size the more accurate your info becomes. But, 150 seems to work for me.

                Thanks in advance for any comments you wish to make. *S*

                For my predicitions I personally sample back 30 days.

                Kejana

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                  Posted: December 26, 2013, 5:43 pm - IP Logged

                  All depends on the games pick 3 and Pick 4 last 20 to 50 draws . Jackpot games last 100 !

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                    Posted: December 27, 2013, 12:22 am - IP Logged

                    Maybe two weeks for a sample size, I don't see a need to go back more than that unless running a test.

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                      Posted: December 27, 2013, 9:11 am - IP Logged

                      Depends on the game and what I am looking for. 

                      For pick 3 usually bewtween the last 10 to 30 draws.

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                        Posted: December 30, 2013, 8:27 pm - IP Logged

                        For pick3 and pick4 I like to use multiple sample sizes.  Multiple samples allow you to recursively keep eliminating combinations until you get to your playable amount.  I can use 7 sample sizes and still be 47.8% accurate.

                        Jimmy

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                          Posted: December 30, 2013, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

                          Pick 3 5 or less
                          Pick 4 10 or less
                          Pick 5/quinto 25 or less

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                            Posted: December 30, 2013, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

                            In a pinch one game is all that is needed.

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                              Posted: December 30, 2013, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                              My newest program uses the lexie values from the last 5 to 15 games and calculates a sort or average value

                              which is fed into a algorithm.  The algorithm then adds and/or subtracts specific values to the averaged lexie

                              then converts the lexies back into sets.  Seems to work great with most games, daily p3 and p4 along with the

                              P-5 and p-6 number games.  As of yet does not work too well with the big games like MM and PB but see no

                              reason why the algorithm can't be ajusted for these games, just going to take some time.

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