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jjtheprince

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Jan 1, 2014, 11:08 am

Let's face it, no one can win fair and square due to psychics, cheat codes, and birthday numbers. I came up with an idea for a lottery that would be HARD to win and nearly impossible to cheat.

It would be 5 + 0 and the numbers would go from 31 to 999. However, only a total of 250 random numbers would be played for each drawing, so it would be impossible to know what numbers would be played to be drawn. For example, one drawing the numbers 31, 34, 38, 39, 42, 46, ... etc. would be played & the next drawing the numbers played would be 32, 34, 35, 40, 43, ... etc.

This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?
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Jan 1, 2014, 11:13 am

Those pesky psychics will always find a way, the use a silver bowl full of water and stir until numbers appear, if you don't believe me, try it.
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Jan 1, 2014, 3:23 pm

Sully16 is right. Not only are the psychics ready but 'Steve Player' aleady has the 31-999 system in the works.

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jj,

Anyone who would consider playing such a game has no business playing the lottery. They should just send in the price of the tickets as a donation and skip the formailty of playing.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Jan 1, 2014, 4:00 pm

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince on Jan 1, 2014
Let's face it, no one can win fair and square due to psychics, cheat codes, and birthday numbers. I came up with an idea for a lottery that would be HARD to win and nearly impossible to cheat.

It would be 5 + 0 and the numbers would go from 31 to 999. However, only a total of 250 random numbers would be played for each drawing, so it would be impossible to know what numbers would be played to be drawn. For example, one drawing the numbers 31, 34, 38, 39, 42, 46, ... etc. would be played & the next drawing the numbers played would be 32, 34, 35, 40, 43, ... etc.

This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?

Why not suggest a RNG drawn pick-3 and pick-4 game where the RNG is programmed for no repeat digits, but don't tell the players who wagered on doubles, triples and quads. Cheating the players in your game is more obvious because 75% of the numbers purchased won't even be in the drawing.

Have any other ideas on how to cheat the players?
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Jan 1, 2014, 4:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jan 1, 2014
Why not suggest a RNG drawn pick-3 and pick-4 game where the RNG is programmed for no repeat digits, but don't tell the players who wagered on doubles, triples and quads. Cheating the players in your game is more obvious because 75% of the numbers purchased won't even be in the drawing.

Have any other ideas on how to cheat the players?

They already did that in Tennessee

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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Jan 1, 2014, 10:09 pm

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince on Jan 1, 2014
Let's face it, no one can win fair and square due to psychics, cheat codes, and birthday numbers. I came up with an idea for a lottery that would be HARD to win and nearly impossible to cheat.

It would be 5 + 0 and the numbers would go from 31 to 999. However, only a total of 250 random numbers would be played for each drawing, so it would be impossible to know what numbers would be played to be drawn. For example, one drawing the numbers 31, 34, 38, 39, 42, 46, ... etc. would be played & the next drawing the numbers played would be 32, 34, 35, 40, 43, ... etc.

This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?

Sounds like it would be too easy to win.

We want a good challenge so we can feel good about ourselves when we win.
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Jan 2, 2014, 10:15 am

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jan 1, 2014
Sounds like it would be too easy to win.

We want a good challenge so we can feel good about ourselves when we win.

You can exchange birthday days, for the year they were born

So instead of 1-2-14-16-21-26

we get 62-63-65-66-70-72, I am going to play all the years me and my brothers and sisters were born.

Yikes, my mom had 6 kids in 10 years, gotta play the 6 and 10 now.
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Jan 2, 2014, 5:34 pm

So you're idea is not only a game of 968 numbers, but where 718 of those numbers will not be available within the draw, and players wouldn't be told what number selection is going on that night?

What would the odds for that game be? 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%?
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Jan 2, 2014, 5:54 pm

Talking centillions here.

To calculate the odds for this you would have to first figure out how many ways 250 numbers can be derived from 968 numbers. Hint: the answer is 239 digits long. Then you would have to calculate how many ways 5 numbers can be derived from that number, which would probably be close to a millinillion.

"This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?"

This would be a non-winner game. LOL

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Jan 3, 2014, 9:10 am

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Jan 2, 2014
Talking centillions here.

To calculate the odds for this you would have to first figure out how many ways 250 numbers can be derived from 968 numbers. Hint: the answer is 239 digits long. Then you would have to calculate how many ways 5 numbers can be derived from that number, which would probably be close to a millinillion.

"This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?"

This would be a non-winner game. LOL

But we NEED a lottery that is HARD.

When current mm and PB winners show up to lottery hq to turn in their tickets I'm sure they're all thinking "We just screwed them out of millions! That was too easy!"
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Jan 3, 2014, 11:45 am

Quote: Originally posted by jjtheprince on Jan 1, 2014
Let's face it, no one can win fair and square due to psychics, cheat codes, and birthday numbers. I came up with an idea for a lottery that would be HARD to win and nearly impossible to cheat.

It would be 5 + 0 and the numbers would go from 31 to 999. However, only a total of 250 random numbers would be played for each drawing, so it would be impossible to know what numbers would be played to be drawn. For example, one drawing the numbers 31, 34, 38, 39, 42, 46, ... etc. would be played & the next drawing the numbers played would be 32, 34, 35, 40, 43, ... etc.

This would be an awesome game and whoever wins would most likely win fair & square! What do you all think?

Lottery players aren't as dumb as you think, most wouldn't play a game that dumb and lottery commissions know it. They have come up with games people will play or they are out of business.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
jjtheprince

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Jan 4, 2014, 12:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Jan 3, 2014
Lottery players aren't as dumb as you think, most wouldn't play a game that dumb and lottery commissions know it. They have come up with games people will play or they are out of business.

Set the jackpot to start at $500 million & charge $1 per play.

People would line up around the block to play it.
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Jan 5, 2014, 6:46 pm

I would organise lottery where since age 18 everyone ( if he wishes so) is assigned lottery number ( like social security number) and every month lottery ticket is played on his behalf by random pick and it is charged on person's vages, or account or his social security money. If person is made a participant of lottery for life, then amount of wins drastically increases. Lottery then can afford pretty impressive rewards, and a lot more of them. I mean there will be better wins even on 1 number match. This lottery's funds are to go only towards wins, not to social projects. Run by govermental office, this lottery is nonprofit. In my mind that be cool. Game for the sake of game.