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Wondering if I should go back to buying scratchers?

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: January 10, 2014, 11:49 am - IP Logged

There are hundreds of different games, and I'm sure you can find one that suits yor particular desires.

Do you want a game that offers a near-zero chance to win  $100 million while you lose about 50% of your money? There are two choices.

Do you want a game that offers an extremely small chance to win up to a few million while you lose about 50% of your money? There are dozens of choices.

Do you want a game that offers a very, very small chance to win  up to a few million while you lose about 50% of your money? There are dozens of choices.

Do you want a game that offers a verysmall chance to win up to $100,000  while you lose about 50% of your money? There are dozens of choices.

Have you noticed that the one thing that all lottery games have in common is that they're designed to keep about 50% of your money? Reading your posts I really get the feeling that you think there's some way around that part.

You should check your figures.  Most lotteries are designed to payout 50% of sales in prizes which include the jackpots.  Since the few jackpot winners get the bulk of the payouts, the other players are lucky if they get back 20% of their money.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    Posted: January 10, 2014, 11:49 am - IP Logged

    In my opinion scrathers are the same as slots in a casino.  You have no control whatsoever.  I'd rather have some sort of contol in the outcome.  If you were losing more than winning, what will change?  The tickets won't...

    Good "luck"

    Hi BigDMike,

    I can see your analogy of scratchers being the same as slots in a casino. The no control aspect as you mentioned is the most frustrating part.  If I go back to playing scratchers will still be on a budget like I have been. When I first started playing the scratch tickets about 4 years ago I wasn't always keeping myself inline in terms of the amount I would spend but over the last year when I was playing scratchers I spent far less on them so losing wasn't as painful.

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      Posted: January 10, 2014, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

      I don't have much desire to play the big jackpot games - just once in awhile when the jp is high.

      I like scratch tickets.

      In your circumstance, considering you are looking for what way is the best to win a large jackpot or a decent 

      amount of money, I'd say continue on with what you're doing with PB, MM etc. You will spend less and most likely

      have the same outcome.

      Think about the top prizes in an Instant game...there are most times, 5 total. Out of 5 - 7 million tickets,

      what are your chances of finding one? Pretty slim. This might set someone off but think about it this way -

      in a pool of jackpot game chances, you have a better chance at snagging a winning quick pick out of millions of

      chances no matter where you are..Instant tickets are not floating around in some virtual pool waiting to be purchased, 

      they've been printed, ordered, delivered and stocked. Depending on how fast they sell and until more are ordered

      say, in YOUR area, it could take months to get 'closer' to the million dollar top prize IF it's lined up to be delivered 

      to your area and didn't go 50 miles away from you. Get it? YOU MAY NEVER EVER BE NEAR A MILLION DOLLAR WINNER

      IN YOUR WHOLE LIFETIME. OR maybe you will. If it's going to happen, you have a better chance of making it happen

      with online terminal games - ie Cash 5, Match 6, PB, MM..the pool of numbers chosen from is always changing IMHHHO...

      I don't think there is anything wrong with playing either game...take the chance BUT DO NOT TRY AND BUY A MILLION

      DOLLAR WINNING INSTANT TICKET....chances are it's NOT going to happen. It's nice to wish, I do it all the time...it's

      nice to say I'm GOING to win...I do it all the time too...doesn't mean I will but heck anyway, I know I will..j/k but 

      always hoping.

      I enjoy playing when the big jp's go way up and love playing instants. I'm content winning $10, $20, $50, $100 or $1,000

      or more...if you aren't content with that, stay with your jackpot games, keep the feeling you have about saving money

      on rub offs. Actually if you can only spend a certain amount, I'd say stay with the jp because there's a much better

      chance you'll be at the right time and place to purchase that winning number selection from a pool of numbers than

      from a few counters of instant tickets.

      Remember - you said it...there are tons of retailers across the state selling...those TOP PRIZES can be anywhere at all.

      Think of the odds of finding one at your local market..it can happen but the odds must change if you're only considering

      where you shop....1 in 7 million may become 1 in 700 million if you look at it as that winning ticket being at YOUR STORE,

      WHEN YOU GO AND BEING THE NEXT ONE OUT. The odds are for the prizes in a game of 7 million tickets....not considering

      where those tickets are delivered, when they're stocked, when they're sold, or how long they sit there

      - I need a mathmatical analogy here..anyone willing to take into consideration these scenarios and how they might change

      odds? Don't tell me they don't please, because they do.

      Strictly speaking one person, one place, 7 million tickets, 24 hours in a day PLUS the ticket playing public in your area who

      also are a stat to be considered....that's a lot to compete with.

      I feel it's worth it for me to play scratch offs because I don't have to choose one over the other. I like instants win or

      lose, they are fun and if I win a big prize in the process...YAY!! but if not, I'll just continue on my merry scratching way

      and buy some more another day.

      Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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        Posted: January 10, 2014, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

        Hi BigDMike,

        I can see your analogy of scratchers being the same as slots in a casino. The no control aspect as you mentioned is the most frustrating part.  If I go back to playing scratchers will still be on a budget like I have been. When I first started playing the scratch tickets about 4 years ago I wasn't always keeping myself inline in terms of the amount I would spend but over the last year when I was playing scratchers I spent far less on them so losing wasn't as painful.

        The things I don't like about scratchers are there are only a few tickets that can win the jackpots and if none of those tickets are in the town or store where you shop then you aren't going to win no matter the number of tickets you buy.  You have to be where the winning tickets are when they are sold.

        With lottery drawings, anyone who played the winning combination can win regardless of their location when the winning numbers are drawn.  I just think it's easier to predict the winning combination than to predict where and when the winning scratchers will be sold.   I just feel I have a better chance at winning something when I can play any combination rather than depend on the store where I shop to have the winning tickets.  In all my years of playing the lotteries, I've only hear of two players in my town winning a top prize buying scratchers, the rest were in some other town.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: January 10, 2014, 12:24 pm - IP Logged

          Hi BigDMike,

          I can see your analogy of scratchers being the same as slots in a casino. The no control aspect as you mentioned is the most frustrating part.  If I go back to playing scratchers will still be on a budget like I have been. When I first started playing the scratch tickets about 4 years ago I wasn't always keeping myself inline in terms of the amount I would spend but over the last year when I was playing scratchers I spent far less on them so losing wasn't as painful.

          See this is the key..keeping it fun!!
          I always set a lottery budget for the year. I never look at it on a week to week cost bases because $20 a week doesn't seem like a lot, but by year's end that will translate into $1,040 in lottery spending. So I always determine what i am comfortable with losing based on total spending for the year, then i break that amount down weekly and that determines what i have to spend each week on the lottery. It's so easy to grab a couple extra tickets especially scratch offs with the $1 or $5 ticket price flashing in your face, but when you add it up you find yourself full of regrets because you spent more then what you were comfortable with losing. This is what works for me and keeps the game fun with no regrets if i don't win anything because i already took that into consideration in determining what my yearly lottery budget (loss) limit would be.
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            Posted: January 10, 2014, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

            The things I don't like about scratchers are there are only a few tickets that can win the jackpots and if none of those tickets are in the town or store where you shop then you aren't going to win no matter the number of tickets you buy.  You have to be where the winning tickets are when they are sold.

            With lottery drawings, anyone who played the winning combination can win regardless of their location when the winning numbers are drawn.  I just think it's easier to predict the winning combination than to predict where and when the winning scratchers will be sold.   I just feel I have a better chance at winning something when I can play any combination rather than depend on the store where I shop to have the winning tickets.  In all my years of playing the lotteries, I've only hear of two players in my town winning a top prize buying scratchers, the rest were in some other town.

            There it is...ditto!

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              Posted: January 10, 2014, 1:31 pm - IP Logged

              I don't have much desire to play the big jackpot games - just once in awhile when the jp is high.

              I like scratch tickets.

              In your circumstance, considering you are looking for what way is the best to win a large jackpot or a decent 

              amount of money, I'd say continue on with what you're doing with PB, MM etc. You will spend less and most likely

              have the same outcome.

              Think about the top prizes in an Instant game...there are most times, 5 total. Out of 5 - 7 million tickets,

              what are your chances of finding one? Pretty slim. This might set someone off but think about it this way -

              in a pool of jackpot game chances, you have a better chance at snagging a winning quick pick out of millions of

              chances no matter where you are..Instant tickets are not floating around in some virtual pool waiting to be purchased, 

              they've been printed, ordered, delivered and stocked. Depending on how fast they sell and until more are ordered

              say, in YOUR area, it could take months to get 'closer' to the million dollar top prize IF it's lined up to be delivered 

              to your area and didn't go 50 miles away from you. Get it? YOU MAY NEVER EVER BE NEAR A MILLION DOLLAR WINNER

              IN YOUR WHOLE LIFETIME. OR maybe you will. If it's going to happen, you have a better chance of making it happen

              with online terminal games - ie Cash 5, Match 6, PB, MM..the pool of numbers chosen from is always changing IMHHHO...

              I don't think there is anything wrong with playing either game...take the chance BUT DO NOT TRY AND BUY A MILLION

              DOLLAR WINNING INSTANT TICKET....chances are it's NOT going to happen. It's nice to wish, I do it all the time...it's

              nice to say I'm GOING to win...I do it all the time too...doesn't mean I will but heck anyway, I know I will..j/k but 

              always hoping.

              I enjoy playing when the big jp's go way up and love playing instants. I'm content winning $10, $20, $50, $100 or $1,000

              or more...if you aren't content with that, stay with your jackpot games, keep the feeling you have about saving money

              on rub offs. Actually if you can only spend a certain amount, I'd say stay with the jp because there's a much better

              chance you'll be at the right time and place to purchase that winning number selection from a pool of numbers than

              from a few counters of instant tickets.

              Remember - you said it...there are tons of retailers across the state selling...those TOP PRIZES can be anywhere at all.

              Think of the odds of finding one at your local market..it can happen but the odds must change if you're only considering

              where you shop....1 in 7 million may become 1 in 700 million if you look at it as that winning ticket being at YOUR STORE,

              WHEN YOU GO AND BEING THE NEXT ONE OUT. The odds are for the prizes in a game of 7 million tickets....not considering

              where those tickets are delivered, when they're stocked, when they're sold, or how long they sit there

              - I need a mathmatical analogy here..anyone willing to take into consideration these scenarios and how they might change

              odds? Don't tell me they don't please, because they do.

              Strictly speaking one person, one place, 7 million tickets, 24 hours in a day PLUS the ticket playing public in your area who

              also are a stat to be considered....that's a lot to compete with.

              I feel it's worth it for me to play scratch offs because I don't have to choose one over the other. I like instants win or

              lose, they are fun and if I win a big prize in the process...YAY!! but if not, I'll just continue on my merry scratching way

              and buy some more another day.

              Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

              Hi dr65,

              I hear what you mean about only having maybe 5 or so top prizes on a scratchoff game. On the 5 dollar scratch offs many times there might be 6 top prizes out of maybe 25 million tickets printed so the odds are pretty bad. On the 20 dollar tickets we may have 35 top prizes of 1 million and maybe 4 top prizes on 10 million but again the number of tickets printed will still be in the millions. I'm always checking my states website to see what is still available even though I haven't been buying the scratchers. I like to check my states website to see what towns the winning tickets were purchased at. You seem to have good luck with scratchers (I've seen your posts on the instant games forums).  I can see how easy it can be for people to be addicted to the scratchers (luckily I broke that habit awhile ago). I agree that if you really want to just win a big jackpot the draw games might be good because you can just buy one ticket so you will be spending less money. There are good and bad points to playing or not playing scratchers.

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                For the record... I scratch from time to time too.  I typically buy a couple of them if I'm behind someone in line that does.  I'll buy a couple of the same ones that they bought.  I figure that they'll go to the car, scratch and lose.  Sometimes the tickets that I bought are winners (fee tic or a couple of dollars), but nothing to really jump up and down about.  Just like dropping a couple dollars on that machine on the way out of the casino.  Sure would be nice to tell that story while the bells and lights go crazy!

                I'd love for you to show us that Million dollar ticket, as we might be on the verge of talking it up.  Which one do you suggest I buy today?!

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                  I used to get the itch to scratch.

                  Not anymore though.

                  Too many hawks around here.

                  And clerks that coach 'em.

                  We need Lottery ATM's.