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# What's Next - Part 2

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San Angelo, Texas
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Given

Major Pair -32
History for Pair 32
Secondary Pair in String - 21
Followers for Last two digits (21) - 311232332 (String 1)
Followers for Last digit (1) - 3121131122222332331322 (String 2)
History String 2:
Last 4 - 1322 - followers - None
Last 3 - 322 - followers - None
Last 2 - 22 - 122
Last 1 - 2 - 12222332

Whats the next digit??

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The next digit is 3, which, in my tracking scheme, is lottery number 3, the first of three digits in a Pick 3 combination.
FYI
Pair 32 is one of 9 in Book A of my substitution workout.
The Major Pairs are 11 12, 13, 21, 22, 23, 31, 32, 33
The Secondary Pair is the last two digits in the follower string for the Main Pair, which is based on draw results.
The follower string has approximately 100 digits, but I only used about 25 for this exercise. The last pair in the string was 21.
I have paper and pencil worksheets where the followers for the secondary pairs are logged in order of occurrence.

Responding to feedback.

1. Yes, there isn't much data to work with, but, that's what I was analyzing at the time I was
choosing a digit to play.
Not sure that giving the complete follower string for Pair 32 would make a difference.

2. Explaining the entire workout from which the data was taken not feasible. It's already

I was hoping some of the experts who visit this Forum would see what I face when choosing next digits,
and offer some advice, but, apparently not.

My goal is to design a small program that could be replicated as many times as necessay, instead
of a major system designed by Greenfox, with appropriate blank boxes where data could be logged by hand or by
a coded program.

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As far as I can decipher, you are the only person using this Excel program.  May I suggest you tell us what you have found exciting about this program.  Should you attract more users, you might receive more feed back.

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Given

Major Pair -32
History for Pair 32
Secondary Pair in String - 21
Followers for Last two digits (21) - 311232332 (String 1)
Followers for Last digit (1) - 3121131122222332331322 (String 2)
History String 2:
Last 4 - 1322 - followers - None
Last 3 - 322 - followers - None
Last 2 - 22 - 122
Last 1 - 2 - 12222332

Whats the next digit??

What game is this?

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As far as I can decipher, you are the only person using this Excel program.  May I suggest you tell us what you have found exciting about this program.  Should you attract more users, you might receive more feed back.

Bobbys more comforatble using his own workout sheets and not Excel.

I tried to automate Bobby's workouts to Excel but did not finish it.  The draw history I used was for the Texas Pick 3 lottery game.

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Given

Major Pair -32
History for Pair 32
Secondary Pair in String - 21
Followers for Last two digits (21) - 311232332 (String 1)
Followers for Last digit (1) - 3121131122222332331322 (String 2)
History String 2:
Last 4 - 1322 - followers - None
Last 3 - 322 - followers - None
Last 2 - 22 - 122
Last 1 - 2 - 12222332

Whats the next digit??

This could be any lottery game.

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As far as I can decipher, you are the only person using this Excel program.  May I suggest you tell us what you have found exciting about this program.  Should you attract more users, you might receive more feed back.

GASMETERGUY
For a long time I expended a lot of energy trying to find a workable system.
Then one day I decided that every thing I had learned about building a workout using traditional methods was a bunch of crap.
As an alternative,  I used the power of substitution to design a personal workout that incorporates multiple tracking charts that produce reliable
trend strings. I use these strings every day. Sometimes, they lead me in the right direction and I win a few bucks. But, overall, I'm losing more than I'm winning, just like most other lottery players.
But, again, I enjoy what I'm doing. The few \$290 and \$40  wins I have had in Pick 3 are satisfying. Matching 4 numbers in Daily 4 for a \$2700 payout last year  convinced me that I'm on the right track.
Unfortunately, I thought that my methods needed to be codified in some type of automated system - i.e. Excel.
Winsumloosesum volunteered to code my charts. I appreciate the work he did. However, I later realized that
I don't need a traditional system. I believe the only way to be successful is to get up close and personal with the lottery numbers.
This is achieved with a  paper and pencil workout, not some grand automated plan that provides a lot of data but has no heart.
I have described my methods in many LP postings. Unfortunately, what I say is generally interpreted according to traditional thinking. The two
schools of thought and action just don't jibe - and I stand alone.
The What's Next, Part 2 post, was made in hopes it would be understood by someone good with math.
It's a true set of data from Texas Pick 3. It's a sample of what I face each time I set down to manually choose numbers for play.
Texas has four daily game drawings. This has created a lot of extra work. My charts have to be current.
I had hoped that given the thousands of people who visit LP, there would be a few folks who would want to give my
methods a try. This means they would have to set aside traditional thinking and actually create and maintain the tracking charts.
Hopefully, there would be one or two people who would immediately see the advantage of having a few automated forms, not a full workout or system, just
a few routine tracking logs to reduce the workload.
But, like everything else in LP, most folks don't come here to help. They come here to take. Apparently, they don't see value in what I do so they have
nothing to take.
What do I find exciting about my program?  It works!
If you are interested, I suggest you do a search. Read my previous postings. You will realize that what I do is very simple, almost like child's play.
Once you have the tracking charts and trend strings, you will realize what you have to do to come up with winning combinations on your own initiative for the
lottery games you spend money on.
If it proves to be too complex, too difficult, or whatever, then you can consider the many traditional systems that have promise but don't work.

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Given

Major Pair -32
History for Pair 32
Secondary Pair in String - 21
Followers for Last two digits (21) - 311232332 (String 1)
Followers for Last digit (1) - 3121131122222332331322 (String 2)
History String 2:
Last 4 - 1322 - followers - None
Last 3 - 322 - followers - None
Last 2 - 22 - 122
Last 1 - 2 - 12222332

Whats the next digit??

Whats the next digit??

Define: major pair, history pair, secondary pair in string.

Eliminate: redundant text and question as long as the input is not complete.

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To Bobby,

Serge

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To Bobby,

Serge

Serge

My workout breaks a daily lottery game into three major parts - A, B and C.
The initial step is replacing the actual lottery digits with substitute digits.
Here is the arrangement:|
Part A:
L# Substitute
8 1 aka 1A
9 2 aka 2A
3 3 aka 3A

Part B:
L# Substitute
7 4 aka 4B
5 5 aka 5B
1 6 aka 6B

Part C:
L# Substitute
0 7 aka 7C
6 8 aka 8C
4 9 aka 9C
2 0 aka 0R

This means that every lottery digit coming out of a lottery machine is replaced with
its designated substitute and recorded using a logging procedure for future analysis.

The substitute digits are recorded (logged, listed, charted) exactly in the order that they occur.
This action generates three separate and distinct streams/strings of digits.
The content of each string is totally dependent on the lottery machines.
For example, each time lottery digit 1 comes out, a 6 is recorded/logged in a string
called Main String B.
Everytime L# 8 comes out a 1 is recorded/logged in a string called Main String A.
Everytime L# 4 comes out a 9 is recorded/logged in a string called Main String C.
It goes without saying that these strings become longer and longer as more lottery drawing results are recorded/logged.
((Note: An unanswered question is how long is long enough??))
((I have strings that go back to June 1, 2012))
((There is no consensus because I'm the only User))
((I generally use the last 30 digits for analysis purposes))

String Processing.

Individuals with photographic memories might be able to view a very long string of digits
and make some mental calculations on how the digits relate to one another and other concerns.
However, average people, myself included, usually lack the capacity to make mental judgments simply by sight alone. We need help!!
The only effective way to define and understand a string and gain some idea of what the next digit could be is to break it down into smaller pieces.
This can be done in several ways.
One could take the last 6 digits, for example, and then search for repeats throughout the history of string. There could be 'hits' but not enough to provide any definitive answer to the What's Next question.
As the creator of this workout, I decided the best way to analyze the strings for useful 'hits' or repeats is to base the investigation on the last three digits in the string.
Of course, the identity of the last three digits will change each time a new digit is added.
Example:
Existing string: 46446 (last 3 digits = 446)
New string: 464466 (last 3 digits = 466)
New string: 46446644 (last 3 digits - 644)
To make the investigation worthwhile, its imperative that the individual 3-digit string endings be logged and tracked.
TERMINOLOGY
We know that any investigation involving a mixture of digits requires that all of the possible permuations be identified by name so that useful TRACKING CHARTS can be created.
I decided that, reading left to right, the first two digits in a 3-digit set at the end of a string be called PAIR.
Further, I decided that the last digit in a 3-digit set at the end of a string be called FOLLOWER.
As a result, we have PAIR plus a FOLLOWER, or PAIR+F.

STRINGS, PAIRS AND FOLLOWERS
There are three MAIN strings: Main String A, Main String B and Main String C.
Each String has a ending set of three digits that change as new digits are added.
When the content of each string is examined closely, one discovers that, regardless
of strength length, there are finite number of PAIRS and FOLLOWERS.
MAIN STRING A has nine different PAIRS: 11 12 13 21 22 23 31 32 33 and three FOLLOWERS 1, 2 and 3.
MAIN STRING B has nine different PAIRS: 44 45 46 54 55 56 64 65 66 and three FOLLOWERS 4,5 and 6.
MAIN STRING C has 16 different PAIRS: 77 78 79 70 87 88 89 80 97 98 99 90 07 08 09 00,
and four FOLLOWERS 7, 8, 9, 0.

HISTORY

The Pair+F arrangements by themselves don't provide a complete picture of where a lottery game has been and where it might be headed.
(History: Data based on prior/previous/known lottery drawings and/or subordinate data generated by a workout))
If the answer to the What's Next question is to be based on the string endings, it's important to know something about the individual PAIR+Fs as they occurred over a period of drawings.
To be useful for analysis, the specific information about the history of each PAIR+F must be organized and presented in a form that can be easily understood and maintained.

SECONDARY PAIR FOLLOWER STRINGS

The history of a PAIR is determined by examining its place in a Major String and recording it separately along with its FOLLOWER.
Of course, the place changes as more digits are added to the string.
This is a tricky procedure.

Example using actual digit sequence in MAJOR STRING B.
Step one-Decide a starting point for extracting PAIR+F history (30 consecutive digits recommended)
Given: 644446645445556664546655465554466
Step two - Prepare graph sheet with column headers: 44 45 46 54 55 56 64 65 66 4 5 6
Step two - Process the string by logging the +F for every PAIR in the string.
Refer to string given.
First PAIR+F is 64+4.
Enter a 4 in column immediately below 64
Next PAIR+F is 44+4
Enter 4 in 44 column.
Next Pair+F is 44+4
Enter another 4 in the 44 column.
Next PAIR+F is 44+6
Enter a 6 in the 44 column.
Next PAIR+F is 46+6
Enter a 6 in the 46 column
Continue until all PAIR+F sets are processed and logged.

NEXT DIGITS - Next digits are digits that occupy the space immediately to the right of a digit in a string of digits.

Step three - Return to starting point and log the digit immediately to the right of each FOLLOWER in the appropriate column.
The first FOLLOWER is 6.
The ' next digits' entered in F column 6 are: 4646646556.
The next FOLLOWER IS 4.
The next digits entered in F column 4 are: 444654556646
The next unprocessed FOLLOWER is 5.
The next digits entered in the F column 5 are: 4556454554

MATRICES
Aother way of analyzing digit history is using a Matrix to record the number of times
individual digits in a string follow each other over a period of drawings.

MAIN STRING A:
The matrix has 3 rows and 3 columns. A total of 9 individual cells.
The digit by digit occurrences are logged in the appropriate cell using a "dot" or other
small symbol. When a cell is filled, the dots are counted and the total written in the cell.
The dots provide a clues on which of the digit by digit pairings may be more popular
than others.

Here are the cell totals for Main String A.
The tabulations began at some time in 2013.

1 2 3
1 43 32 29
2 39 51 33
3 32 27 31

The matrix shows that Digit 1 has followed Digit 1 43 times, Digit 2 has followed digit 1
32 times, Digit 3 has followed Digit 1 29 times.
Use: If the last digit in Main Sting A is 2, the answer to the What's Next question could
be Digit 2, given it has a higher 'hit' rate.

SECONDARY FOLLOWER STRING MATRICES.
A matrix is used for each of the PAIR+F STRINGS.
For example using Secondary Follower String C.
Source is the PAIR+F STRING.
Matrix:
Columns 7 8 9 0
Row Pair77 3 10 4 5
The matrix shows that Follower 3 has followed PAIR 77 three times, Follower
8 10 times, Follower 9 4 times and Follower 0 5 times.

Each PAIR+F has a matrix at bottom of the graph sheet.

How to log data:

Step 1 - Get next Substitution digit (Base Foundation, Column III)
If the game being processed in Pick 3, there will be 3 new additions to the Main strings.
There could be one digit to be added to a string, two digits or three digits.
However, the digits are logged ONE AT A TIME.

REMEMBER - The digits are OBJECTS. Add means placing the digit in a column.

Step 2 - Add next digit to end of the Main string.
Step 3 - Update the Main string matrix (put a dot in proper cell)
Step 4 - Determine the next PAIR+F. (The last three digits in the string)
Step 5 - Refer to appropriate MAIN PAIR tracking chart.(I refer the PAIRS as pages. I.e.,
PAIR 11 would be Page 11, etc)
Step 5 - Enter +F digit in the in the Secondary +F string column below the Main
Pair.
Step 6 - Update the MAIN Pair matrix.
Step 7 - Determine the pair+F at the end of the Secondary +F string (last 3 digits)
Step 8 - Add the +F (3rd digit) to the appropriate +F pair column.
Step 9 - Add the +F digit to the appropriate single +F column. (If the digit is 3, add 3 to +F3
column.

How the data is used will be covered in a separate posting.
Questions??

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Serge

My workout breaks a daily lottery game into three major parts - A, B and C.
The initial step is replacing the actual lottery digits with substitute digits.
Here is the arrangement:|
Part A:
L# Substitute
8 1 aka 1A
9 2 aka 2A
3 3 aka 3A

Part B:
L# Substitute
7 4 aka 4B
5 5 aka 5B
1 6 aka 6B

Part C:
L# Substitute
0 7 aka 7C
6 8 aka 8C
4 9 aka 9C
2 0 aka 0R

This means that every lottery digit coming out of a lottery machine is replaced with
its designated substitute and recorded using a logging procedure for future analysis.

The substitute digits are recorded (logged, listed, charted) exactly in the order that they occur.
This action generates three separate and distinct streams/strings of digits.
The content of each string is totally dependent on the lottery machines.
For example, each time lottery digit 1 comes out, a 6 is recorded/logged in a string
called Main String B.
Everytime L# 8 comes out a 1 is recorded/logged in a string called Main String A.
Everytime L# 4 comes out a 9 is recorded/logged in a string called Main String C.
It goes without saying that these strings become longer and longer as more lottery drawing results are recorded/logged.
((Note: An unanswered question is how long is long enough??))
((I have strings that go back to June 1, 2012))
((There is no consensus because I'm the only User))
((I generally use the last 30 digits for analysis purposes))

String Processing.

Individuals with photographic memories might be able to view a very long string of digits
and make some mental calculations on how the digits relate to one another and other concerns.
However, average people, myself included, usually lack the capacity to make mental judgments simply by sight alone. We need help!!
The only effective way to define and understand a string and gain some idea of what the next digit could be is to break it down into smaller pieces.
This can be done in several ways.
One could take the last 6 digits, for example, and then search for repeats throughout the history of string. There could be 'hits' but not enough to provide any definitive answer to the What's Next question.
As the creator of this workout, I decided the best way to analyze the strings for useful 'hits' or repeats is to base the investigation on the last three digits in the string.
Of course, the identity of the last three digits will change each time a new digit is added.
Example:
Existing string: 46446 (last 3 digits = 446)
New string: 464466 (last 3 digits = 466)
New string: 46446644 (last 3 digits - 644)
To make the investigation worthwhile, its imperative that the individual 3-digit string endings be logged and tracked.
TERMINOLOGY
We know that any investigation involving a mixture of digits requires that all of the possible permuations be identified by name so that useful TRACKING CHARTS can be created.
I decided that, reading left to right, the first two digits in a 3-digit set at the end of a string be called PAIR.
Further, I decided that the last digit in a 3-digit set at the end of a string be called FOLLOWER.
As a result, we have PAIR plus a FOLLOWER, or PAIR+F.

STRINGS, PAIRS AND FOLLOWERS
There are three MAIN strings: Main String A, Main String B and Main String C.
Each String has a ending set of three digits that change as new digits are added.
When the content of each string is examined closely, one discovers that, regardless
of strength length, there are finite number of PAIRS and FOLLOWERS.
MAIN STRING A has nine different PAIRS: 11 12 13 21 22 23 31 32 33 and three FOLLOWERS 1, 2 and 3.
MAIN STRING B has nine different PAIRS: 44 45 46 54 55 56 64 65 66 and three FOLLOWERS 4,5 and 6.
MAIN STRING C has 16 different PAIRS: 77 78 79 70 87 88 89 80 97 98 99 90 07 08 09 00,
and four FOLLOWERS 7, 8, 9, 0.

HISTORY

The Pair+F arrangements by themselves don't provide a complete picture of where a lottery game has been and where it might be headed.
(History: Data based on prior/previous/known lottery drawings and/or subordinate data generated by a workout))
If the answer to the What's Next question is to be based on the string endings, it's important to know something about the individual PAIR+Fs as they occurred over a period of drawings.
To be useful for analysis, the specific information about the history of each PAIR+F must be organized and presented in a form that can be easily understood and maintained.

SECONDARY PAIR FOLLOWER STRINGS

The history of a PAIR is determined by examining its place in a Major String and recording it separately along with its FOLLOWER.
Of course, the place changes as more digits are added to the string.
This is a tricky procedure.

Example using actual digit sequence in MAJOR STRING B.
Step one-Decide a starting point for extracting PAIR+F history (30 consecutive digits recommended)
Given: 644446645445556664546655465554466
Step two - Prepare graph sheet with column headers: 44 45 46 54 55 56 64 65 66 4 5 6
Step two - Process the string by logging the +F for every PAIR in the string.
Refer to string given.
First PAIR+F is 64+4.
Enter a 4 in column immediately below 64
Next PAIR+F is 44+4
Enter 4 in 44 column.
Next Pair+F is 44+4
Enter another 4 in the 44 column.
Next PAIR+F is 44+6
Enter a 6 in the 44 column.
Next PAIR+F is 46+6
Enter a 6 in the 46 column
Continue until all PAIR+F sets are processed and logged.

NEXT DIGITS - Next digits are digits that occupy the space immediately to the right of a digit in a string of digits.

Step three - Return to starting point and log the digit immediately to the right of each FOLLOWER in the appropriate column.
The first FOLLOWER is 6.
The ' next digits' entered in F column 6 are: 4646646556.
The next FOLLOWER IS 4.
The next digits entered in F column 4 are: 444654556646
The next unprocessed FOLLOWER is 5.
The next digits entered in the F column 5 are: 4556454554

MATRICES
Aother way of analyzing digit history is using a Matrix to record the number of times
individual digits in a string follow each other over a period of drawings.

MAIN STRING A:
The matrix has 3 rows and 3 columns. A total of 9 individual cells.
The digit by digit occurrences are logged in the appropriate cell using a "dot" or other
small symbol. When a cell is filled, the dots are counted and the total written in the cell.
The dots provide a clues on which of the digit by digit pairings may be more popular
than others.

Here are the cell totals for Main String A.
The tabulations began at some time in 2013.

1 2 3
1 43 32 29
2 39 51 33
3 32 27 31

The matrix shows that Digit 1 has followed Digit 1 43 times, Digit 2 has followed digit 1
32 times, Digit 3 has followed Digit 1 29 times.
Use: If the last digit in Main Sting A is 2, the answer to the What's Next question could
be Digit 2, given it has a higher 'hit' rate.

SECONDARY FOLLOWER STRING MATRICES.
A matrix is used for each of the PAIR+F STRINGS.
For example using Secondary Follower String C.
Source is the PAIR+F STRING.
Matrix:
Columns 7 8 9 0
Row Pair77 3 10 4 5
The matrix shows that Follower 3 has followed PAIR 77 three times, Follower
8 10 times, Follower 9 4 times and Follower 0 5 times.

Each PAIR+F has a matrix at bottom of the graph sheet.

How to log data:

Step 1 - Get next Substitution digit (Base Foundation, Column III)
If the game being processed in Pick 3, there will be 3 new additions to the Main strings.
There could be one digit to be added to a string, two digits or three digits.
However, the digits are logged ONE AT A TIME.

REMEMBER - The digits are OBJECTS. Add means placing the digit in a column.

Step 2 - Add next digit to end of the Main string.
Step 3 - Update the Main string matrix (put a dot in proper cell)
Step 4 - Determine the next PAIR+F. (The last three digits in the string)
Step 5 - Refer to appropriate MAIN PAIR tracking chart.(I refer the PAIRS as pages. I.e.,
PAIR 11 would be Page 11, etc)
Step 5 - Enter +F digit in the in the Secondary +F string column below the Main
Pair.
Step 6 - Update the MAIN Pair matrix.
Step 7 - Determine the pair+F at the end of the Secondary +F string (last 3 digits)
Step 8 - Add the +F (3rd digit) to the appropriate +F pair column.
Step 9 - Add the +F digit to the appropriate single +F column. (If the digit is 3, add 3 to +F3
column.

How the data is used will be covered in a separate posting.
Questions??

1. It is not necessary to do substitutes at the start.

2. You don't specify if you generate the string by position 1, 2 and 3.

2. b) If you talk positions, you get 9 strings.

2. c) If you don't then what are you doing?

3. Single, pairs and followers can be counted. A question is do you use the total of the drawings?

4. I will mail you a simple workout for manual input. You can respond by mail.

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 1 4 7 2 4 8 2 5 0 3 5 9 1 4 7 2 6 8 3 5 9

Input vertical. Part of the output:

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Well, it seems there is no help to be had here.
Apparently, a majority of folks who come to LP are looking for
prediction systems that provide instant wins.
Punch a key and get rich!!

Sorry, I don't know how to do that.

Therefore, I withdraw my request for assistance in automating some of
my tracking charts.

Thank you very much.
Good luck!
Bobby

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The expectancy is loss.

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