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Posted: March 7, 2014, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

I've fine quite a but of reading on how some golds convert whole numbers to binary numbers to get the "next" draw number. The only issue is no one ever explains what they do, how try do it and more importantly does it benefit them. 

 

Does se anyone use binary?  If so, please explain the pros and cons

 

thanks

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    Here's what I found for you...........Eek                                     Scared

     

    Binary Number System

    Computers use binary digits. And some  puzzles can be solved using binary numbers.

    A Binary Number is made up of only 0s and 1s.

    110100
    Example of a Binary Number

    There is no 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or 9 in Binary!

    How do we Count using Binary?

    Binary
    0We start at 0
    1Then 1
    ???But then there is no symbol for 2 ... what do we do?

     

    Decimal
    Well how do we count in Decimal?0Start at 0
    ...Count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and then...
    9This is the last digit in Decimal
    10So we start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left

    The same thing  is done in binary ...

    Binary
    0Start at 0
    1Then 1
    ••10Now start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left
    •••111 more
    ••••???But NOW what ... ?

     

    Decimal
    What happens in  Decimal ... ?99When we run out of digits,  we ...
    100... start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left

    And that is what we do in binary ...

    Binary
    0Start at 0
    1Then 1
    ••10Start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left
    •••11
    ••••100start back at 0 again, and add one to the number on the left... ... but that number is already at 1 so it also goes back to 0 ... ... and 1 is added to the next position on the left
    •••••101
    ••••••110
    •••••••111
    ••••••••1000Start back at 0 again (for all 3 digits), add 1 on the left
    •••••••••1001And so on!

     

    See how it is done in this little demonstration (press play):

    Decimal vs Binary

    Here are some equivalent values:

    Decimal:0123456789101112131415
    Binary:01101110010111011110001001101010111100110111101111

    Here are some larger equivalent values:

    Decimal:2025304050100200500
    Binary:101001100111110101000110010110010011001000111110100

    "Binary is as easy as 1, 10, 11."

    Position

    In the Decimal System there are the Units, Tens, Hundreds, etc

    In Binary, there are Units, Twos, Fours, etc, like this:

    This is  1×8 + 1×4 + 0×2 + 1 + 1×(1/2) + 0×(1/4) + 1×(1/8) = 13.625 in Decimal

                  Numbers can be placed to the left               or right of the point, to indicate values greater than one   or less than one.

    10.1
    The number to the left of the  point is a whole number (10 for example)
    As we move further left, every number place gets 2 times bigger.
    The first digit on the right means halves (1/2).
    As we move further right, every number place gets 2 times smaller (half as big).

    Example: 10.1

    • The "10" means 2 in decimal,
    • The ".1" means half,
    • So "10.1" in binary is 2.5 in decimal

    You can do conversions at Binary to Decimal to Hexadecimal Converter.

    Words

    The word binary comes from "Bi-" meaning two. We see "bi-"  in words such as "bicycle" (two wheels) or "binocular" (two eyes).

    When you say a  binary number, pronounce each digit (example, the binary number "101" is spoken as "one zero one", or sometimes "one-oh-one"). This way  people don't get confused with the decimal number.

    A single binary digit (like "0" or "1") is called a "bit". For example 11010 is five bits long.

    The word bit is made up from the words "binary digit"

    How to Show that a Number is Binary

    To show that a number is a binary number, follow it with a little 2 like this: 1012

    This way people won't think it is the decimal number "101" (one hundred and one).

    Examples

    Example: What is 11112 in Decimal?

    • The "1" on the left is in the "2×2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2×2 (=8)
    • The next "1"  is in the "2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2 (=4)
    • The next "1"  is in the "2" position, so that means  1×2 (=2)
    • The last "1"  is in the units position, so that means  1
    • Answer: 1111 = 8+4+2+1  = 15 in Decimal

    Example: What is 10012 in Decimal?

    • The "1" on the left is in the "2×2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2×2 (=8)
    • The "0"  is in the "2×2" position, so that means  0×2×2 (=0)
    • The next "0"  is in the "2" position, so that means  0×2 (=0)
    • The last "1"  is in the units position, so that means  1
    • Answer: 1001 = 8+0+0+1 = 9 in Decimal

    Example: What is 1.12 in Decimal?

    • The "1" on the left side is in the units position, so that means 1.
    • The 1 on the right side is in the "halves" position, so that means 1×(1/2)
    • So, 1.1 is "1 and 1 half" = 1.5 in Decimal

    Example: What is 10.112 in Decimal?

    • The "1" is in the "2" position, so that means  1×2 (=2)
    • The "0"  is in the units position, so that means  0
    • The "1" on the right of the point  is in the "halves" position, so that means 1×(1/2)
    • The last "1" on the right side is in the "quarters" position, so that means 1×(1/4)
    • So, 10.11 is 2+0+1/2+1/4 = 2.75 in Decimal

    "There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary numbers, and those who don't."

     

     

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      Posted: March 7, 2014, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks for the lesson or I should say refresher course.  I'm an Electronics/Electrical Engineer   How does this play into the lotto numbers?  If at any time a PM is better than a public pits feel free

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        Put the Windows calculator to programmers' mode.

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          Several years ago I studied binary in the P5 game.  I did not find anything upon which to hang my hat .

          If you have any suggestions I would gladly spend some time researching the results.  I found binary intriguing but devoid of any meaning lotto-wise.

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            Here's what I found for you...........Eek                                     Scared

             

            Binary Number System

            Computers use binary digits. And some  puzzles can be solved using binary numbers.

            A Binary Number is made up of only 0s and 1s.

            110100
            Example of a Binary Number

            There is no 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or 9 in Binary!

            How do we Count using Binary?

            Binary
            0We start at 0
            1Then 1
            ???But then there is no symbol for 2 ... what do we do?

             

            Decimal
            Well how do we count in Decimal?0Start at 0
            ...Count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and then...
            9This is the last digit in Decimal
            10So we start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left

            The same thing  is done in binary ...

            Binary
            0Start at 0
            1Then 1
            ••10Now start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left
            •••111 more
            ••••???But NOW what ... ?

             

            Decimal
            What happens in  Decimal ... ?99When we run out of digits,  we ...
            100... start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left

            And that is what we do in binary ...

            Binary
            0Start at 0
            1Then 1
            ••10Start back at 0 again, but add 1 on the left
            •••11
            ••••100start back at 0 again, and add one to the number on the left... ... but that number is already at 1 so it also goes back to 0 ... ... and 1 is added to the next position on the left
            •••••101
            ••••••110
            •••••••111
            ••••••••1000Start back at 0 again (for all 3 digits), add 1 on the left
            •••••••••1001And so on!

             

            See how it is done in this little demonstration (press play):

            Decimal vs Binary

            Here are some equivalent values:

            Decimal:0123456789101112131415
            Binary:01101110010111011110001001101010111100110111101111

            Here are some larger equivalent values:

            Decimal:2025304050100200500
            Binary:101001100111110101000110010110010011001000111110100

            "Binary is as easy as 1, 10, 11."

            Position

            In the Decimal System there are the Units, Tens, Hundreds, etc

            In Binary, there are Units, Twos, Fours, etc, like this:

            This is  1×8 + 1×4 + 0×2 + 1 + 1×(1/2) + 0×(1/4) + 1×(1/8) = 13.625 in Decimal

                          Numbers can be placed to the left               or right of the point, to indicate values greater than one   or less than one.

            10.1
            The number to the left of the  point is a whole number (10 for example)
            As we move further left, every number place gets 2 times bigger.
            The first digit on the right means halves (1/2).
            As we move further right, every number place gets 2 times smaller (half as big).

            Example: 10.1

            • The "10" means 2 in decimal,
            • The ".1" means half,
            • So "10.1" in binary is 2.5 in decimal

            You can do conversions at Binary to Decimal to Hexadecimal Converter.

            Words

            The word binary comes from "Bi-" meaning two. We see "bi-"  in words such as "bicycle" (two wheels) or "binocular" (two eyes).

            When you say a  binary number, pronounce each digit (example, the binary number "101" is spoken as "one zero one", or sometimes "one-oh-one"). This way  people don't get confused with the decimal number.

            A single binary digit (like "0" or "1") is called a "bit". For example 11010 is five bits long.

            The word bit is made up from the words "binary digit"

            How to Show that a Number is Binary

            To show that a number is a binary number, follow it with a little 2 like this: 1012

            This way people won't think it is the decimal number "101" (one hundred and one).

            Examples

            Example: What is 11112 in Decimal?

            • The "1" on the left is in the "2×2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2×2 (=8)
            • The next "1"  is in the "2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2 (=4)
            • The next "1"  is in the "2" position, so that means  1×2 (=2)
            • The last "1"  is in the units position, so that means  1
            • Answer: 1111 = 8+4+2+1  = 15 in Decimal

            Example: What is 10012 in Decimal?

            • The "1" on the left is in the "2×2×2" position, so that means  1×2×2×2 (=8)
            • The "0"  is in the "2×2" position, so that means  0×2×2 (=0)
            • The next "0"  is in the "2" position, so that means  0×2 (=0)
            • The last "1"  is in the units position, so that means  1
            • Answer: 1001 = 8+0+0+1 = 9 in Decimal

            Example: What is 1.12 in Decimal?

            • The "1" on the left side is in the units position, so that means 1.
            • The 1 on the right side is in the "halves" position, so that means 1×(1/2)
            • So, 1.1 is "1 and 1 half" = 1.5 in Decimal

            Example: What is 10.112 in Decimal?

            • The "1" is in the "2" position, so that means  1×2 (=2)
            • The "0"  is in the units position, so that means  0
            • The "1" on the right of the point  is in the "halves" position, so that means 1×(1/2)
            • The last "1" on the right side is in the "quarters" position, so that means 1×(1/4)
            • So, 10.11 is 2+0+1/2+1/4 = 2.75 in Decimal

            "There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary numbers, and those who don't."

             

             

                    Good Morning Jani,

                   Just wanted to say that was an excellent presentation and explanation

                   of the Binary Code System.

                   Have a Blessed Day !

                   

            Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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              00
              210
              4100
              81000
              1610000
              32100000
              641000000
              12810000000
              256100000000
              5121000000000
              102410000000000
              2048100000000000
              40961000000000000
              819210000000000000
              16384100000000000000
              327681000000000000000
              6553610000000000000000
              131072100000000000000000
              2621441000000000000000000
              52428810000000000000000000
              1048576100000000000000000000
              20971521000000000000000000000
              419430410000000000000000000000
              8388608100000000000000000000000
              167772161000000000000000000000000
              3355443210000000000000000000000000
              67108864100000000000000000000000000
              1342177281000000000000000000000000000
              26843545610000000000000000000000000000
              536870912100000000000000000000000000000
              10737418241000000000000000000000000000000

               

              12345,68 10 =

              Not rounded:

              11000000111000,1010110110010001011010000111001010112

              You will find functions in programming languages, but also in the Windows calculator and in spreadsheets. Binary is used for IP-numbers. Decimal and hex are shorter. We don't use binary for calculations, we learned decimal. As numbers are getting bigger and calculations longer, we use calculators and computers.

              When I was at school, we did not learn binary and matrix calculations, we used regular algebra. They invented the computer, so people had to learn binary because a computer is doing with ones and zeros. Look for Neumann. One digit is called bit and eight bits are called byte.

              000000000
              10000000128
              11000000192
              11100000224
              11110000240
              11111000248
              11111100252
              11111110254
              11111111255
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                  That is John von Neumann.

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                  Base:234567891011121314151617181920212223242526272829303132333435
                  7510100101122101023300203135113837569635A55504B47433I3F3C393633302N2L2J2H2F2D2B292725
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                    Binary may help in analysis, but then you are limited, since between numbers, we also have Deltas (difference between current and previous numbers) and the delta difference (difference between current and previous delta between numbers).   THus,   TERNARY provides more possibilities in examining the numbers, and gives a lot more to play with, or eliminate from.

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                      The only benefit is if your testing for genuine randomness. I suppose you could use it as a dart board but whole numbers work just as well for that.

                      If your intentions are you fill an array and randomly select from past drawings --its very slow and has to recollect them back into whole numbers.

                      there are eight bits to a bite.

                      Dumpster diving for a winner?

                      *We may see something that isn’t there because of what we expect to see

                      Or conversely, we may not see something because we don’t expect to see it.*


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                        Nothing helps. Except Allah and Luck

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                          What does off and on has to do with it...0 and 1?Smash

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                            In electronic circuits, 0 and 1 are represented by a voltage level. In early computers, it was usually +5 volts or +12 volts to represent a binary 1 and either 0 volts or -12 volts to represent a binary 0.


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                              I've fine quite a but of reading on how some golds convert whole numbers to binary numbers to get the "next" draw number. The only issue is no one ever explains what they do, how try do it and more importantly does it benefit them. 

                               

                              Does se anyone use binary?  If so, please explain the pros and cons

                               

                              thanks

                              Binary only works in two dimensions.

                              Skips Strings and The Gaps.