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CARD COUNTER: BEN AFFLECK BANNED @ Hard Rock Casino,LV :-(

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Posted: May 3, 2014, 4:08 pm - IP Logged

IS THERE NO ONE IMMUNE FROM CASINO'S DIFINITION OF A "FAIRGAME???

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Ben Affleck banned from blackjack at Las Vegas casino: source

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By By Piya Sinha-Roy19 hours ago
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor Ben Affleck was banned from playing blackjack at a Las Vegas casino because he was "too good," a source close to the Oscar-winner said on Friday.

Affleck, 41, was stopped earlier this week by security guards at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas while playing blackjack because "you are too good," the source said. He was told he could play other games at the casino.

Affleck, who won Oscars for co-writing 1997's "Good Will Hunting" and producing 2012's "Argo," recently starred in last year's crime thriller "Runner Runner," where he played an online gambling tycoon.

The actor was on a short break in Las Vegas with his wife Jennifer Garner before he left to shoot Zack Snyder's upcoming "Man of Steel" sequel where he will play Batman opposite Henry Cavill's Superman.

An earlier story by celebrity news outlet TMZ.com said Affleck had been banned for life from the casino for counting cards, a method of using probability to predict the next hand.

A representative for the Hard Rock Hotel did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Friday.

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    Posted: May 5, 2014, 4:47 pm - IP Logged

    IS THERE NO ONE IMMUNE FROM CASINO'S DIFINITION OF A "FAIRGAME???

    EddessaKnight

     

    Ben Affleck banned from blackjack at Las Vegas casino: source

    Reuters 
    By By Piya Sinha-Roy19 hours ago
    Ben Affleck testifies before Senate Foreign Relations Committee in Washington
    .

    View photo

    Actor, writer and director Ben Affleck (R) testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on …

    By Piya Sinha-Roy

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor Ben Affleck was banned from playing blackjack at a Las Vegas casino because he was "too good," a source close to the Oscar-winner said on Friday.

    Affleck, 41, was stopped earlier this week by security guards at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas while playing blackjack because "you are too good," the source said. He was told he could play other games at the casino.

    Affleck, who won Oscars for co-writing 1997's "Good Will Hunting" and producing 2012's "Argo," recently starred in last year's crime thriller "Runner Runner," where he played an online gambling tycoon.

    The actor was on a short break in Las Vegas with his wife Jennifer Garner before he left to shoot Zack Snyder's upcoming "Man of Steel" sequel where he will play Batman opposite Henry Cavill's Superman.

    An earlier story by celebrity news outlet TMZ.com said Affleck had been banned for life from the casino for counting cards, a method of using probability to predict the next hand.

    A representative for the Hard Rock Hotel did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Friday.

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    FAIRGAME???

    Movie Star Ben played BJ where many celebraties often congregate & celebrate in LV. Previously, Afflect  (2000) won huge $600,000 while playing three hands of BJ @$20,000 per hand and obviously winning , I might add. Ben was barred for a year & entered rehab.

    If the casinos say its really impossible to over come their odds, why must they resort to countermeasures like barring intelligent advantage players?

    A rational players question,  that has catalyzed into a  definition  of the   word  Conundrum  is:  something that is puzzling or confusing.....

     

     

     

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      Posted: May 6, 2014, 12:15 am - IP Logged

      From the website blackjack-king.com:

      Why Do Casinos Ban Card Counters?


      The King is thinking about card counting in blackjack Ok, in recent articles we've touched on the fact that casinos will ban card counters if they are detected.

      The question you might now be asking is - WHY do casinos ban card counters?

      Let's break this down from the top.

      Casinos are in the business of making money.

      Casinos have an edge in all games where the players can play against the "house". If they didn't have an edge, they would quickly go out of business.

      Casinos have a small edge in blackjack. Casinos ride this small edge to millions upon millions of dollars in profits every year.

      Against a competent card counter, casinos lose their edge. This is why card counting cards, such as the group from MIT, are able to sometimes win millions of dollars from casinos.

      Casinos don't like losing. Casinos can ban whoever they want from their properties. You add these two things together, and card counters will be banned from casinos as soon as they are detected.

      Card counting is NOT illegal. However, competent card counters have an edge against the house, so competent card counters are quickly dispatched from casinos.

      In short, the reason why casinos don't allow card counters is because they cost the casinos money.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        Posted: May 6, 2014, 10:01 am - IP Logged

        Yes I seen that very interesting.

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          Posted: May 6, 2014, 3:07 pm - IP Logged

          From the website blackjack-king.com:

          Why Do Casinos Ban Card Counters?


          The King is thinking about card counting in blackjack Ok, in recent articles we've touched on the fact that casinos will ban card counters if they are detected.

          The question you might now be asking is - WHY do casinos ban card counters?

          Let's break this down from the top.

          Casinos are in the business of making money.

          Casinos have an edge in all games where the players can play against the "house". If they didn't have an edge, they would quickly go out of business.

          Casinos have a small edge in blackjack. Casinos ride this small edge to millions upon millions of dollars in profits every year.

          Against a competent card counter, casinos lose their edge. This is why card counting cards, such as the group from MIT, are able to sometimes win millions of dollars from casinos.

          Casinos don't like losing. Casinos can ban whoever they want from their properties. You add these two things together, and card counters will be banned from casinos as soon as they are detected.

          Card counting is NOT illegal. However, competent card counters have an edge against the house, so competent card counters are quickly dispatched from casinos.

          In short, the reason why casinos don't allow card counters is because they cost the casinos money.

          Thank you Coin for your shared professional experience & Marcie for your interest-

           

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            I have long mentioned the casinos will do whatever to maintain their greedy grip on the bottom line. We understand it's their property for profit but card counting is not illegal. BJ expert Ken Houston fought & won this issue in the New Jersey Supreme Court - recall management use to have their own dealers shadowing his action by counting cards behind the scenes? LOL

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          Even when an extraordinary player like Houston,Thorpe or Afflick does win, there are literally thousand losing simultaneously, so the hold profit, albeit less, on balance continues. No less then Ceasar's Casinos at one time capitalized on Houston's BJ ability by promoting his playing appearances as an attraction to bring in potential players. His action was limitedto $5000 winning per night which he stuffed in hi pockets before going back to the JOCKEY Club Towers which was home to his "21" seminars on the strip.

           

          'When you own the roulette wheel, ts no longer a even chance game '
          -Damon Runyon

           

            Now speaking of what's right, how bouts the use of aggressive tactics to dissuade advantage players i.e. specially talented & trained croups called "STOPPERS" who are still actively in the employ & Roulette croups"WHEEL BURNERS" who can counteract players tactics thereby effectively increasing the negative odds. Not saying each & every Casio or honest dealer, mind you, but many casinos have counteractive strategies that can be employed against non-cheating clientel who have proven to be "TOO GOOD"

           

           "Players were mostly loosing their money (like everywhere) but the treatment of those lucky ones was weird. For the management, almost every player taking money out of the casino a few times was a system player (even in roulette?!).I m not sure they had any idea what system or system was Result: the player wasnt welcome anymore (and not in a polite way of speaking). I didnt ask questions minded my own business...."
          ~Braveneworld, Croupier

           

           

          Then there is the separate issue of unconstitutionally & surreptitiously video identifying players without their consent, keeping a file record and sharing that information with private security agents & detectives with system subscribers - sometimes being followed via unmarked cars & monitored live on line. There are a few brave advantage player attorney's who have won player plaintiff cases but these unconstitutional issues have not been tested in casino controlled media or courts (to my humble knowledge).

          Yea I am unabashedly advocate for player's rights @ gambling ground zero LV & everyone knows what side of the green felt table I stand. And yes much has changed industry wide since Professor Thorp's classic 'Beat The Dealer' even this renowned proven BJ author Thorp was actively dissuaded of contiuned play when he found that his coffee was being spiked in Reno, casino changed the rules of the game against the player, 8 card decks plua an automatic ShuffleMaster machines.  Casino compition has radically heated up for the visitor's dollar, 40M people arrive annually including big time cheats & syndicates from all over the world desend on properties to take their fortune. It's reasonable for any legitimate business to protect their assets against thievery but not by unfair practices. There is so much more but limitations of space & time on the internet & LB. Rspectfully, we have some good contributing particapants on LB who once were prior employees and this is not meant to demean them i any way or LB. Those who had access to casino secrets & practices were trained to never give a sucker an even break & to be charmingly deceitful; therefore to extract the unspoken truth would require a court supenoa or the point of a gun Wink LOL

           

          IS THIS THE FAIRGAME THE PLAYER EXPECTS???

             

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