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WHO is KELLDON or ANDRE? Scam alert!

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Posted: June 19, 2014, 4:59 pm - IP Logged

 IF you've bought any file or intend on buying any lottery system from " kelldon or Andre', request a refund.I had this mail from LP members of system been sold to them, apparently Kelldon did not delete  the original file with my name when he sold it.

These are excerpts of received mails

1.'Btw, are you affiliated with Kelldon, Andre.  Reason I ask is that they use an Excel file that is similar to your name'.

 

2.'I have no bad intention of asking if you are Kelldon Moore, I am just curious because the file he game me for Pick 3 and Pick 4 carries your name Adobea'.

 *My response> I am not Kelldon Moore,  but if he acknowledge my name without a fee, then is ok.

3.'They replaced your Excel file on Pick 3 & Pick 4 as  OLG 34 and they are using openoffice but I happened to catch it by mistake because (Kellden) sent me the old file and from there the worksheet bears adobea carrying your Pick 3 & Pick 4 spreadsheet.

First the name he was using is Andre Parson, later on it was changed to Kellden Moore, but Andre Parson is the one they used for payment purposes (Paypal).

 

4'Oh my...he charged me for $ 100

 

ALL my threads and information therein is FREE, so if some one is peddling it, just be smart and don't fall for it, this brings about the reason why some members are very reticent in sharing, I get it now!

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    Posted: June 19, 2014, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

     IF you've bought any file or intend on buying any lottery system from " kelldon or Andre', request a refund.I had this mail from LP members of system been sold to them, apparently Kelldon did not delete  the original file with my name when he sold it.

    These are excerpts of received mails

    1.'Btw, are you affiliated with Kelldon, Andre.  Reason I ask is that they use an Excel file that is similar to your name'.

     

    2.'I have no bad intention of asking if you are Kelldon Moore, I am just curious because the file he game me for Pick 3 and Pick 4 carries your name Adobea'.

     *My response> I am not Kelldon Moore,  but if he acknowledge my name without a fee, then is ok.

    3.'They replaced your Excel file on Pick 3 & Pick 4 as  OLG 34 and they are using openoffice but I happened to catch it by mistake because (Kellden) sent me the old file and from there the worksheet bears adobea carrying your Pick 3 & Pick 4 spreadsheet.

    First the name he was using is Andre Parson, later on it was changed to Kellden Moore, but Andre Parson is the one they used for payment purposes (Paypal).

     

    4'Oh my...he charged me for $ 100

     

    ALL my threads and information therein is FREE, so if some one is peddling it, just be smart and don't fall for it, this brings about the reason why some members are very reticent in sharing, I get it now!

    Thanks for the "alert" adobea78. It's been a hot topic of conversation in the past, and I would be shocked if the ethically challenged activities above ever came to a stop. Yes, to your point, it certainly can challenge one to attenuate how much information is shared. Most unfortunate...

    May your numbers be true this day,

    Kola

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      Posted: June 19, 2014, 10:48 pm - IP Logged

       IF you've bought any file or intend on buying any lottery system from " kelldon or Andre', request a refund.I had this mail from LP members of system been sold to them, apparently Kelldon did not delete  the original file with my name when he sold it.

      These are excerpts of received mails

      1.'Btw, are you affiliated with Kelldon, Andre.  Reason I ask is that they use an Excel file that is similar to your name'.

       

      2.'I have no bad intention of asking if you are Kelldon Moore, I am just curious because the file he game me for Pick 3 and Pick 4 carries your name Adobea'.

       *My response> I am not Kelldon Moore,  but if he acknowledge my name without a fee, then is ok.

      3.'They replaced your Excel file on Pick 3 & Pick 4 as  OLG 34 and they are using openoffice but I happened to catch it by mistake because (Kellden) sent me the old file and from there the worksheet bears adobea carrying your Pick 3 & Pick 4 spreadsheet.

      First the name he was using is Andre Parson, later on it was changed to Kellden Moore, but Andre Parson is the one they used for payment purposes (Paypal).

       

      4'Oh my...he charged me for $ 100

       

      ALL my threads and information therein is FREE, so if some one is peddling it, just be smart and don't fall for it, this brings about the reason why some members are very reticent in sharing, I get it now!

      Are you saying those two stole your Excel file? If yes, can you prove this?

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        Read the excerpts from mails received from LP members who did purchase this file.

        3.'They replaced your Excel file on Pick 3 & Pick 4 as  OLG 34 and they are using openoffice but I happened to catch it by mistake because (Kellden) sent me the old file and from there the worksheet bears adobea carrying your Pick 3 & Pick 4 spreadsheet.

        First the name he was using is Andre Parson, later on it was changed to Kellden Moore, but Andre Parson is the one they used for payment purposes (Paypal).

         

        4'Oh my...he charged me for $ 100


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          Posted: June 19, 2014, 11:28 pm - IP Logged

          Read the excerpts from mails received from LP members who did purchase this file.

          3.'They replaced your Excel file on Pick 3 & Pick 4 as  OLG 34 and they are using openoffice but I happened to catch it by mistake because (Kellden) sent me the old file and from there the worksheet bears adobea carrying your Pick 3 & Pick 4 spreadsheet.

          First the name he was using is Andre Parson, later on it was changed to Kellden Moore, but Andre Parson is the one they used for payment purposes (Paypal).

           

          4'Oh my...he charged me for $ 100

          With all due respect, excerpts isn't proof. Anyone can get the seller's personal names from emails they genuinely received and throw a wrench into the equation on LP because they have nothing better to do with their lives. 

          Just like another LP member a few months ago, I won't mention who, but also quoted emails he received as proof. I in turn duplicated similar types of emails in opposition with ease and posted them as proof, but my fake emails weren't proof enough for that poster. lol

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            With all due respect, excerpts isn't proof. Anyone can get the seller's personal names from emails they genuinely received and throw a wrench into the equation on LP because they have nothing better to do with their lives. 

            Just like another LP member a few months ago, I won't mention who, but also quoted emails he received as proof. I in turn duplicated similar types of emails in opposition with ease and posted them as proof, but my fake emails weren't proof enough for that poster. lol

            Absurdity to a new level!  are you Kelldon , Andre or whatever? What do I gain from your convoluted twisted insinuation! . IF you're ok by popping $100 for free stuff, is your choice, tell that to the LP member who downloaded the purchased file bearing my name - I don't live within the realm of suspicion and conspiracies!


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              Ok, basically, this is what's up. Someone did indeed "steal" Adobea78's file, but I'm hearing from the grapevine, that certain people have Adobea78's original file and the file sold by the sellers in question. Apparently the numbers produced by Adobea78's Excel program don't match what the sellers are showing. This is proof to me that a file owned by Adobea78 was reconfigured in such a way which made it a good system, and also had a guarantee within a time frame. Not saying Adobea78's version isn't as good, but I still haven't got an answer to whether any similarities exist or not. 

              Adobea78 was kind enough to share his/her files, and feels that someone stole the idea, but just like no one can claim a mirror system augmented to fit their own study for prediction, or one-up, one-down, two-up, three down, hot-cold, or any other concept, neither can Adobea78. I understand his/her frustration, but after asking many times whether his/her version performed as well with a time frame, I got no answer.


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                Absurdity to a new level!  are you Kelldon , Andre or whatever? What do I gain from your convoluted twisted insinuation! . IF you're ok by popping $100 for free stuff, is your choice, tell that to the LP member who downloaded the purchased file bearing my name - I don't live within the realm of suspicion and conspiracies!

                I never said you gained anything from this. What i said is that someone might be pulling your leg just because. It's not that all far fetched. 

                I don't even know what your file entails. That's why I was asking you what the similarities were. They have a guarantee, and you are silent when I probe for some correlation. Call it what you will, it's no conspiracy and I'm not kelldon. I'm just trying to find the truth.


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                  Posted: June 20, 2014, 12:20 am - IP Logged

                  If you say the file is free for everyone to see, can you post a link to that file? I missed that memo.

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                    If you say the file is free for everyone to see, can you post a link to that file? I missed that memo.

                    If it's the same information posted at lottery websites and their archives, why would anyone pay for it.  Players willing to paid for it are looking to be scam.

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                      If it's the same information posted at lottery websites and their archives, why would anyone pay for it.  Players willing to paid for it are looking to be scam.

                      You're missing the point.

                      Adobea78 claims that a file was stolen which was free for all to see. All I'm asking is to see the file. I obviously wasn't following his/her system threads, so I didn't see that file. If indeed the file was free for all to see, what is the problem in asking to see it?

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                        You're missing the point.

                        Adobea78 claims that a file was stolen which was free for all to see. All I'm asking is to see the file. I obviously wasn't following his/her system threads, so I didn't see that file. If indeed the file was free for all to see, what is the problem in asking to see it?

                        That's kinda like asking to see the chicken house after the fox has eaten all the chickens and left.

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                          That's kinda like asking to see the chicken house after the fox has eaten all the chickens and left.

                          I don't think you get it, do you?

                          Oh well, I can't explain it any better than I already have.

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                            Nobody should be surprised by this.  It happens all the time.  That's why anyone going out there and buying a lottery system is throwing their money away, for the most part. 

                            Most of those lottery systems are people who go to the Lottery Post forums and dig up various systems that have been discussed over the years, and then they sell that free system to people willing to spend money on it.  That "Adolf" dude did it shamelessly hundreds of times.

                            Instead, people looking for a system should simply go through the forum archives themselves and pick from the hundreds -- perhaps thousands -- of free systems and methods discussed over the years.

                            You want to throw away your money?  Go ahead, if that makes you happy.  Personally, I would much rather spend that money on more chances to win, rather than giving it to some dude who is selling someone else's hard work.

                             

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                              Nobody should be surprised by this.  It happens all the time.  That's why anyone going out there and buying a lottery system is throwing their money away, for the most part. 

                              Most of those lottery systems are people who go to the Lottery Post forums and dig up various systems that have been discussed over the years, and then they sell that free system to people willing to spend money on it.  That "Adolf" dude did it shamelessly hundreds of times.

                              Instead, people looking for a system should simply go through the forum archives themselves and pick from the hundreds -- perhaps thousands -- of free systems and methods discussed over the years.

                              You want to throw away your money?  Go ahead, if that makes you happy.  Personally, I would much rather spend that money on more chances to win, rather than giving it to some dude who is selling someone else's hard work.

                              I Agree!  That "Adolf" dude used to email me and ask a lot of questions. I wouldn't be surprised if some of my systems show up in his books,lol. But judging from the reviews he's gotten (Thumbs Down) ,doesn't sound like he'll be getting rich off of them anytime soon.