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# Win D's Pick 3 ROULETTE

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Stone Mountain*Georgia
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Just for fun and.... sometimes profit. Another perspective on the pick 3.

September 8, 2006, 11:02 am Win D's Blog

Win D's  Roulette for Pick 3....Digits         Zero/one and.... others

Roulette is about50/50 ....either Red or Black or ODD Even.

Really Pick 3 can be made into sort of a Roulette game of Red or Black. The Doubles could be madeGreen... and you lose.

Doubles hit 27% of the time in Pick 3.... Singles hit 72% of the time. So.... about 1 outa 4 times you will lose if you play singles only.

But.... wait until a double hits or even better 2 doubles....then play your Singles ..the probability is better that your Single will hit. When it does ...it will be in one of 2 groups RED or Black.  That's as close to 50/50 as you will get in the Pick 3 game.

Here are all 120 single numbers divided into 2 groups.... They are all the Singles that contain either or both of the digits  Zero or ONE......and the "OTHERS"...that do not contain a Zero or ONE.

Green (All doubles and Trips..you lose !) #90+10

•                                              Red ( Others group....contain no digits zero/one) #56
•      234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246 ,247, 248, 249 ,256, 257, 258, 259 ,267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345 ,346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458 ,459, 467, 468, 469, 478 ,479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789,

•                                               Black (Zero/One group) #64
•  012,013,014, 015,016,017, 018, 019, 023, 024 ,025, 026 ,027, 028 ,029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038 ,039 ,045 ,046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058 ,059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089,   123 ,124, 125 ,126 ,127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137 ,138, 139 ,145, 146, 147, 148, 149 ,156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189

What are the odds a double won't show?

(1-0.27 ) ^ 2 = 0.5329

Miss 3 in a row?   (1-0.27) ^3=  0.3890

miss 4 in a row?   (1-0.27) ^4  = 0.2840

What are the odds a double will show?

ONE time is ...          0.27

2 times is .......0.27 * 2= 0.0729

3times in a row....0.27^3=  0.019683

Last Edited: September 8, 2006, 11:06 am

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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Just for fun and.... sometimes profit. Another perspective on the pick 3.

September 8, 2006, 11:02 am Win D's Blog

Win D's  Roulette for Pick 3....Digits         Zero/one and.... others

Roulette is about50/50 ....either Red or Black or ODD Even.

Really Pick 3 can be made into sort of a Roulette game of Red or Black. The Doubles could be madeGreen... and you lose.

Doubles hit 27% of the time in Pick 3.... Singles hit 72% of the time. So.... about 1 outa 4 times you will lose if you play singles only.

But.... wait until a double hits or even better 2 doubles....then play your Singles ..the probability is better that your Single will hit. When it does ...it will be in one of 2 groups RED or Black.  That's as close to 50/50 as you will get in the Pick 3 game.

Here are all 120 single numbers divided into 2 groups.... They are all the Singles that contain either or both of the digits  Zero or ONE......and the "OTHERS"...that do not contain a Zero or ONE.

Green (All doubles and Trips..you lose !) #90+10

•                                              Red ( Others group....contain no digits zero/one) #56
•      234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246 ,247, 248, 249 ,256, 257, 258, 259 ,267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345 ,346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458 ,459, 467, 468, 469, 478 ,479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789,

•                                               Black (Zero/One group) #64
•  012,013,014, 015,016,017, 018, 019, 023, 024 ,025, 026 ,027, 028 ,029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038 ,039 ,045 ,046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058 ,059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089,   123 ,124, 125 ,126 ,127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137 ,138, 139 ,145, 146, 147, 148, 149 ,156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189

What are the odds a double won't show?

(1-0.27 ) ^ 2 = 0.5329

Miss 3 in a row?   (1-0.27) ^3=  0.3890

miss 4 in a row?   (1-0.27) ^4  = 0.2840

What are the odds a double will show?

ONE time is ...          0.27

2 times is .......0.27 * 2= 0.0729

3times in a row....0.27^3=  0.019683

Last Edited: September 8, 2006, 11:06 am

Thanks, Win D!

This is a good way to capitalize on the fact that 50% of combos have a zero or a one in them.

You can use your probability formulas to calculate when a double might show, but also the likelihood that the next draw will be a continuation of the current trend (Black or Red, 0,1s vs. others).

"There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

~Robert A. Heinlein

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Red pays 1:1 at roulette while your red pays 0:500. Going into detail, if zero comes up when you played red, you loose half at roulette, and all of it at pick 3 roulette.

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Excel Files (Versions 2007, 2010, 2013):

https://app.box.com/s/eumecqlf0xdmzjzvp29u

https://app.box.com/s/ymkqpiypniyipsky4qef

Instructions:

Create a new folder and name it whatever you like.  Example, Pick 3 Roulette Wind System

Open the Excel file P3StateDrawsBoxSets.xlsm 1st.  You will see a pop-up window requesting to change th date.  Just cancel to remove this pop-up window.

Then click File > Open and browse to the folder where you saved the 2 Excel files and open the 2nd Excel file called "Pick3RouletteWinD.xlsm"

Cell A1: Select the Month. Example 9 = September (Click cell A1 and use the drop-down arrow)

Cell A6: Select Day of the Month. Example 3.  September 3rd (Click cell A1 and use the drop-down arrow)

Cell A10: Select how many past draws to view.  Maximum = 100.  Example 7 which is last 7 draws.

Starting in cell column N we have the draws from Tennessee Morning Pick 3.  In cell N13 the last draw was 113 which was a "double".

Doubles/Triples = Green

6-Way that contain a 0 and/or 1 = Red

6-Way that DO NOT contain a 0 and or a 1 = Black

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Great information.

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Great information.

Do appreciate the good imagenative effort Win D, but regrettably these potential multi pic 3 degit roulette combos do not have anything special to overcome the odds & consequently all will lose at the negative expectation rate, in the long run even with the kind assistance of winsumloossum fine tool box excel files.

Just ty it and see   what happens

Eddessa_Knight

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Do appreciate the good imagenative effort Win D, but regrettably these potential multi pic 3 degit roulette combos do not have anything special to overcome the odds & consequently all will lose at the negative expectation rate, in the long run even with the kind assistance of winsumloossum fine tool box excel files.

Just ty it and see   what happens

Eddessa_Knight

eddessaknight...... of course not. LOL

You say this little " P3 Roulette game" is not a viable winning strategy?  LOL  At least in  the long run?  Oh no......  surprise!

It's one little filter.

Everyone At least most already know that. At least I thought the the older more experienced players would know that ...including even the marginal players.

This is an old post and was posted here many years ago as more of a fun teaching tool than anything. Even back then it was posted as another different perspective for newer less experienced players back then. Several other ideas have come out of this type of filter over the years.

It's just one more option as afilter tool among many. It's just another fun perspective on the game. It's was presented in a large ...colorful and visual way for entertainment. It makes the point anyway.

Newer players have said they enjoy seeing this. It might help someone grasp the ideas behind this type of filter and .......it becomes just one more filter to add to all the other filters.

I guess I should have been more careful introducing this old post of a  Roulette pick 3 "game" .....for those who still don't grasp what it was about.

P.S.

It's sorta' like the famous  "Wobe Sisters" New York Times News story from years ago. I had no idea it was going to need a disclaimer at the end. Believe it or not....It too used the same numbers for entertainment.

So, eddessaknight I apologise to you for getting your hopes up.  LOL

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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eddessaknight...... of course not. LOL

You say this little " P3 Roulette game" is not a viable winning strategy?  LOL  At least in  the long run?  Oh no......  surprise!

It's one little filter.

Everyone At least most already know that. At least I thought the the older more experienced players would know that ...including even the marginal players.

This is an old post and was posted here many years ago as more of a fun teaching tool than anything. Even back then it was posted as another different perspective for newer less experienced players back then. Several other ideas have come out of this type of filter over the years.

It's just one more option as afilter tool among many. It's just another fun perspective on the game. It's was presented in a large ...colorful and visual way for entertainment. It makes the point anyway.

Newer players have said they enjoy seeing this. It might help someone grasp the ideas behind this type of filter and .......it becomes just one more filter to add to all the other filters.

I guess I should have been more careful introducing this old post of a  Roulette pick 3 "game" .....for those who still don't grasp what it was about.

P.S.

It's sorta' like the famous  "Wobe Sisters" New York Times News story from years ago. I had no idea it was going to need a disclaimer at the end. Believe it or not....It too used the same numbers for entertainment.

So, eddessaknight I apologise to you for getting your hopes up.  LOL

.......of course not. ~WD

MEA CUP MAXIMUS !

With all due respect WD, I did not comprehend the related roulette post to be just a fun filtering device (no disclaimer) so I innocently went ahead & tested same. No damage to my dashed humble hopes, mind you & I see no other posts either way. So perhaps my sheer ignorance & inexperience is showing, as you apply & generously point out but I do appreciate your post clarifying response but, candidly, not the unfriendly or smug undertone

As you are Single "0" Roulette aficionado,(not a trick question) with your professional expertise,  is it possible to devise a wagering strategy whereas one number could yield a higher payout over the others???

Good Weekend Wishes

Eddessa_Knight

PS-
Thanks in advance for any tips for a long term winning ROI

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eddessakinght......  Both of us have missed each others meanings I think. Please excuse my awkward response to your post.

You are an experienced long time player...... so I thought you ...of all people...... pointing out the obvious weaknesses in using a single filter tool as a System by itself...... well you understand what I thought then.

What followed was meant more for actual newer players to clarify the post.

Back in 2006 when it was first posted it was more for newer players as an eye opener. The original post was actually more toward showing the 0/1 group as a filter but even more than that....showing the power of ANY 2 digit combination. Not just the digits ZERO/Ones. Even though it was an off balanced filter it still got the points across in both a fun or colorful way.

If I were really trying to show a true Balanced filter ......I would have used Mostly/All .....high/low...even/odd ....in/out.....as RED/Black ....which are actually 50/50... and a lot easier.

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This was the opening sentence of my first post up there. A pretty big disclaimer right?  I thought anyone overlooking something that big at the top .....must be doing it on purpose. Sorry since it wasn't the case here. I should have known better.

"This is an OLD post ......for just fun// and sometimes profit".

Just  fun and.... sometimes profit. Another perspective on the pick 3.

September 8, 2006, 11:02 am Win D's Blog

Win D's  Roulette for Pick 3....Digits            Zero/one and.... others

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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eddessakinght......  Both of us have missed each others meanings I think. Please excuse my awkward response to your post.

You are an experienced long time player...... so I thought you ...of all people...... pointing out the obvious weaknesses in using a single filter tool as a System by itself...... well you understand what I thought then.

What followed was meant more for actual newer players to clarify the post.

Back in 2006 when it was first posted it was more for newer players as an eye opener. The original post was actually more toward showing the 0/1 group as a filter but even more than that....showing the power of ANY 2 digit combination. Not just the digits ZERO/Ones. Even though it was an off balanced filter it still got the points across in both a fun or colorful way.

If I were really trying to show a true Balanced filter ......I would have used Mostly/All .....high/low...even/odd ....in/out.....as RED/Black ....which are actually 50/50... and a lot easier.

======================================================================

This was the opening sentence of my first post up there. A pretty big disclaimer right?  I thought anyone overlooking something that big at the top .....must be doing it on purpose. Sorry since it wasn't the case here. I should have known better.

"This is an OLD post ......for just fun// and sometimes profit".

Just  fun and.... sometimes profit. Another perspective on the pick 3.

September 8, 2006, 11:02 am Win D's Blog

Win D's  Roulette for Pick 3....Digits            Zero/one and.... others

Isn't it all a JOKE ?

Sir, no hard feeling sportsman, I bid you a goodnight & good luck w/roulette or pic 3 >>>

Fortes Fortuna Juvat

Eddessa_Knight

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Yes, it just might be....... but only if I give up.  Not yet...... not just yet...   LOL

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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You can read all about it on Wikipedia: Roulette, which seems to be the source of the diagram.

"There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

~Robert A. Heinlein

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You can read all about it on Wikipedia: Roulette, which seems to be the source of the diagram.

Interesting.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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