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# Help with Doubles Strategies

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Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

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Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

Well, according to WIN D there is a 62% chance that the next double will not contain either of the digits from the last double.

Going from a single into a double:

44% of the time the double will not contain any of the digits from the preceding unmatched combo;

25% of the time the single digit in the double combo will be found in the preceding unmatched combo;

25% of the time the double digit will be found in the preceding unmatched combo; and

6% of the time both digits will repeat from the preceding unmatched combo (i.e. the double digit plus the accompanying single digit).

Hope it helps!

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 Posted: October 1, 2014, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

I have read here on LP that 0, 4, and 7 are double triggers. Don't know if that will help but it usually happens in Kansas whenever one or all 3 are drawn. It's not all the time. One day Kansas will have a double. The nest day a single then a double. 387 was drawn last night so Kansas can expect another double within a few days if not sooner

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Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

CTNY Pick 4 Technique.

Take a Pen and paper and start from the beginning of the month.

If you want to play from the beginning then use the previous month.

Write down all the doubles on your paper 00.11.22 etc

Then start crossing them out as you see them hitting.

Wait till there's only a few left say 3 or 4 of them, then pounce.

So lets say 99 is due and 55 is due.

Start to create your doubles list....making sure that they all contain the low

numbers 0. 1. 2. or 1. 2. 3(which ever you like better). Make sure to utilize all

So your list will look like this...

9980. 9970. 9960. 9950

9981. 9971. 9961. 9951

9982. 9972. 9962. 9952

Now that you have the 99xx set in stone and your list(12 combos) is created...

...just find the Key digit for that day or draw and pick out that Key from off

your list!!! Ex. Key is a 5...then a you play the highlighted combos only.

Thanks to grwurston's synopsis on low numbers I came up with the idea

.

The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!!

I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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 Posted: October 1, 2014, 11:29 pm - IP Logged

Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

I don't know. But I know how to reduce the odds, but with a slight cost.

Below you'll see a chart of of all 1,000 possible combos. 270 of those combos are doubles. So if you only track doubles of every orientation, you now are tracking 1 in 270, instead of 1 in 1,000. The cost i mentioned earlier means the cost in between doubles when single combos show.

1 1 1

2 2 2

3 3 3

4 4 4

5 5 5

6 6 6

7 7 7

8 8 8

9 9 9

P. S. I won 80 bucks tonight in Florida in the p-3. I thought I won 40 bucks, but tonight's winner was 447 and I had 474 50/50 straight/Box. I forgot doubles pay more,..lol

The clerk was honest and i gave her 5 bucks. I have never won on a double, so I was scratching my head about the win. Eventually i realized a double box pays double. DUH !!!...lol

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 Posted: October 1, 2014, 11:39 pm - IP Logged

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

I don't know. But I know how to reduce the odds, but with a slight cost.

Below you'll see a chart of of all 1,000 possible combos. 270 of those combos are doubles. So if you only track doubles of every orientation, you now are tracking 1 in 270, instead of 1 in 1,000. The cost i mentioned earlier means the cost in between doubles when single combos show.

1 1 1

2 2 2

3 3 3

4 4 4

5 5 5

6 6 6

7 7 7

8 8 8

9 9 9

P. S. I won 80 bucks tonight in Florida in the p-3. I thought I won 40 bucks, but tonight's winner was 447 and I had 474 50/50 straight/Box. I forgot doubles pay more,..lol

The clerk was honest and i gave her 5 bucks. I have never won on a double, so I was scratching my head about the win. Eventually i realized a double box pays double. DUH !!!...lol

I forgot to mention the most intriguing part. I added a number wrong in my workout that produced 3 combos to play. I added the sum of 12...1+2=4....instead of 3 (1+2=3). So my mistake made money.

I'm still in the hole, but the 3 events I just explained is very suspicious. The coincidences are interesting.

Let's Go Rangers!!!
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 Posted: October 2, 2014, 12:02 am - IP Logged

A few tips. For Pick 4. Double #'s are streaky, so I track whether the Dbl is an even, odd, low, high number. Not the number itself but just E,O,L,H. So if say odd, low is hitting there is only 2 Dbl's to worry about. The 11-33. Or if the Evens are hitting, you have just the even Dbl's to play.

Also in Pick 4, use the Dbl as the lowest or highest number in your set. Eg, 2237, 1156, 2588. (NOT 2557, 3669, 1449 etc.) This will occur around 75% of the time. Use a consecutive pair in your set. Either to the Dbl or not. Eg,  2237,  2278. Cons. pairs to the Dbl happens more often, about  half  the time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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 Posted: October 2, 2014, 12:21 am - IP Logged

Here's a tiny little helpful bit, too: pretty much never will you see a double comprised entirely of digits that are over five plays old and older.

e.g. Right now in the CA D3, the 3 and 7 digits are both six+ plays out.  So, you'd cross the 37 doubles box off your list for the very next play.

I know it ain't much, but it's something!

We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche

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 Posted: October 2, 2014, 12:34 am - IP Logged

A few tips. For Pick 4. Double #'s are streaky, so I track whether the Dbl is an even, odd, low, high number. Not the number itself but just E,O,L,H. So if say odd, low is hitting there is only 2 Dbl's to worry about. The 11-33. Or if the Evens are hitting, you have just the even Dbl's to play.

Also in Pick 4, use the Dbl as the lowest or highest number in your set. Eg, 2237, 1156, 2588. (NOT 2557, 3669, 1449 etc.) This will occur around 75% of the time. Use a consecutive pair in your set. Either to the Dbl or not. Eg,  2237,  2278. Cons. pairs to the Dbl happens more often, about  half  the time.

I'm really liking the way you analyze the game.

The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!!

I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

Let's Go Rangers!!!
bel air maryland
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 Posted: October 2, 2014, 12:50 am - IP Logged

I'm really liking the way you analyze the game.

Thanks CTNY!

It's just different ways of tracking I come up with, trying to find things that happen a great amount of the time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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CTNY Pick 4 Technique.

Take a Pen and paper and start from the beginning of the month.

If you want to play from the beginning then use the previous month.

Write down all the doubles on your paper 00.11.22 etc

Then start crossing them out as you see them hitting.

Wait till there's only a few left say 3 or 4 of them, then pounce.

So lets say 99 is due and 55 is due.

Start to create your doubles list....making sure that they all contain the low

numbers 0. 1. 2. or 1. 2. 3(which ever you like better). Make sure to utilize all

So your list will look like this...

9980. 9970. 9960. 9950

9981. 9971. 9961. 9951

9982. 9972. 9962. 9952

Now that you have the 99xx set in stone and your list(12 combos) is created...

...just find the Key digit for that day or draw and pick out that Key from off

your list!!! Ex. Key is a 5...then a you play the highlighted combos only.

Thanks to grwurston's synopsis on low numbers I came up with the idea

.

Good technique !  I like the use of the low numbers.

Thanks for posting.

New Haven, CT - Queens, NY
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Good technique !  I like the use of the low numbers.

Thanks for posting.

Not a Problem!!

It's not 100% but 70-75% is better than NO% lol

The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!!

I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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 Posted: October 3, 2014, 12:02 am - IP Logged

I have read here on LP that 0, 4, and 7 are double triggers. Don't know if that will help but it usually happens in Kansas whenever one or all 3 are drawn. It's not all the time. One day Kansas will have a double. The nest day a single then a double. 387 was drawn last night so Kansas can expect another double within a few days if not sooner

Well, just think about what you're saying there. Does it really make any sense to think that certain digits are triggers for doubles? What reason could there be for that?

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Well, just think about what you're saying there. Does it really make any sense to think that certain digits are triggers for doubles? What reason could there be for that?

Shoot!! I believe anything can happen after witnessing that

a full moon brings 09 and a quarter moon

brings 01. Yikes!!!

Probably meant certain digits are triggers for other

single digits which can then double up

on double day.

The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!!

I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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 Posted: October 3, 2014, 1:12 am - IP Logged

Does anyone have any good strategies for figuring out which DOUBLES to play in either Pick 3 or Pick 4 ??

How can you anticipate in advance, which DOUBLES are due ???

Well, there are a myriad of strategies to go about that. The problem is that they're all subjective. But, ironically, the only real(i.e. objective)strategies are ones that do not involve trying to determine what numbers are due.

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