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Why Americans Will Quit ( Gambling ) Playing The Lottery?

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Posted: October 5, 2014, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

Many good points being made here by poster worth consideration & as our Stack says advancing technology is having an impact.

Last week was the annual G3E Global Gaming & Conference non retail Trade show held 2 the Sands Convention Center, Las Vegas;

the who's who captains & buyers of international gaming industry attending.

Aside of seeing the Ms Lynda Carter of past Wonder Woman fame - she L@@KEd great with her two new intro slots Wink

Some oversimplified index observations;

  1. show attendance is down
  2. exhibitors & conferences down
  3. Indian casino participation down
  4. purchase orders of new or replacement casino equipment down
  5. cruise line biz up but gaming % down
  6. enthusiasm outlook reduced

 

Aside of the drastically reduced Atlantic City operations, Vegas Convention Center & McCarran Airport report increased visitor volume but conversely overall gaming revenue down. Most main line casino corp shareholder quarterly reporting profit for general revenue but all individual main street casinos are individually are in red monthly - odd shore casino holdings Macau & Singapore are ahead but still dropping in total earning.

Optimism is high for future domestic & foreign investment growth & plans being made to entice the new millennial growth groups to gambling and the prospects, pressure & publicity for on line & or electronic gaming continues.

Gambling as part of human nature, isn't going to shut down but there is a net slowdown being affected by other outside factors other then then just recession. Just one man's short but sincere pulse take on some current factors

 

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I always said when Ohio finally got into the casino gambling game, the market would be saturated and is certainly smaller than if they had followed Indiana, Michigan, West Virginia, and Pa years ago. The good news is they will still get some of the Kentucky traffic.

Another factor is the recession and only time will tell how long the effect will last.

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    Posted: October 5, 2014, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

    We don't need more gambling. The market is saturated

    Maybe this is why some players are confused.There's been a few times while scanning my tickets i hear someone ask what game is being drawn that night.

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      Posted: October 5, 2014, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

      We don't need more gambling. The market is saturated

      Maybe this is why some players are confused.There's been a few times while scanning my tickets i hear someone ask what game is being drawn that night.

      I would like to see lottery players reaction to the new $5 national lottery game starting this month. Are Mega Millions and Powerball making any matrix changes to compete with a $5 lottery game?

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        Posted: October 5, 2014, 6:22 pm - IP Logged

         Check out the saturation growth here.....  LOL 

         http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/06/news/macau-casino-gambling/

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          Stack, are you sure about the use of a EBT card? Was the clerk, Black or White? Before anyone jumps up and screams , "Racist", think about this. Once, I stopped at a quik stop to turn my tickets in, but I had to use the ATM. The ATM wasn't working and the clerk, (one of the Patel brothers) told me I could use a credit card, which is a no-no in Florida. All the receipt had on it was gas and the amount. My point is, the clerk could have known the buyer. I can not believe any state would allow the purchasing of lottery tickets. Gambling, like cigarettes and booze will never go away. If I ever seen this happen, I would get the store manager, because it's fraud on the tax payers. I have experienced the same homeless person in out side of a Publix store trying to get people to buy his food stamps. I reported him to the store manager. Haven't seen him in a couple of months.

          From what I've learned, it depends on the store or operation because some will take debit cards as payment for lottery tickets and apparently the store I was in, considers an EBT card is the same as any debit card. The store is a smaller version of a grocery store with only three check-out lines with the scratch-offs and lottery terminal behind the first one. If it is illegal, the store is breaking the law in plain sight, which I doubt because they would lose their business.

          The EBT card was the type with cash and a pin number to withdrawn the cash because the clerk told him his balance was $2.12 after the transaction. The cards for food stamps look the same and I'm pretty sure they can only be used for items rung up as food, but there are some creative clerks. Everything I've read says EBT cards can't be used for buying lottery tickets.

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            Posted: October 5, 2014, 7:25 pm - IP Logged

            In Tx it's illegal to use a debit card (don't know about EBT but probably not legal). The local Tom Thumb grocery store where I buy my tics did let me use my debit card once because I didn't have enough cash. The girl at the service desk had run the tics, and I realized I was short, so I said I'll run across the lot to the bank atm, but she said she knew me, being a regular customer, and told me to just use my card. I was surprised but happy it saved me time.

            CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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              Discussions like these need to distinguish between legalized gambling and illegal gambling.

              For one thing, all the money bet legally on the Super Bowl is mere chump change compared to the amount bet illegally.

              In the 1980s, the biggest action in Vegas was players from Japan asking for private games in their suites with hand picked dealers and supervisors and action way, way over the casino's limits.

              Unknown to a lot of people, some really big action was also on 'rooster' fights in Arizona that players who came to Vegas asked for a limo to get to 'a friend's ranch'.

              Moral of the story is a player is going to find the action, wherever it is.

              No state Pick 3 has wiped out policy games.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                In Tx it's illegal to use a debit card (don't know about EBT but probably not legal). The local Tom Thumb grocery store where I buy my tics did let me use my debit card once because I didn't have enough cash. The girl at the service desk had run the tics, and I realized I was short, so I said I'll run across the lot to the bank atm, but she said she knew me, being a regular customer, and told me to just use my card. I was surprised but happy it saved me time.

                Even though I saw the transaction, I still don't believe it's legal to buy lottery tickets using an EBT card. I never saw the law where buying lottery tickets with a debit or credit card is illegal, but a small store owner told me he didn't because of his cost. Many smaller stores have minimum limits for using debit cards.

                From the PA Lottery:

                While the Lottery discourages retailers from accepting checks and credit cards as a form of payment for Lottery tickets, it is ultimately up to each retailer to determine what forms of payment will be accepted for Lottery purchases and all other purchases from the store. The Lottery encourages players to play responsibly and only with disposable income, but there is no law prohibiting the use of checks or credit cards to pay for Lottery tickets.

                The Iowa Lottery rules are somewhat different:

                Credit cards may not be used to purchase lottery tickets. Lottery tickets can be purchased from lottery retailers with cash, debit cards and checks in accordance with payment policies at the particular location involved.

                Other than age, I can't find any Kentucky Lottery restrictions about purchasing tickets so it's possible using an Credit or EBT card is legal (in KY).

                Many players are probably told by a clerk or a store owner it's illegal to purchase tickets using debit cards because of the store policy. I found out why your Tom Thumb let you use your debit card; Texas Lottery FAQ:

                The State Lottery Act prohibits purchase of tickets by credit or with Food Stamps. Retailers, at their own discretion, may accept a check for tickets. Retailers can accept a debit card for payment.

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                  Posted: October 6, 2014, 8:04 pm - IP Logged

                  Well stack, I sure missed that one. I always thought it was illegal to use a debit card, but obviously it's not.

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                    Discussions like these need to distinguish between legalized gambling and illegal gambling.

                    For one thing, all the money bet legally on the Super Bowl is mere chump change compared to the amount bet illegally.

                    In the 1980s, the biggest action in Vegas was players from Japan asking for private games in their suites with hand picked dealers and supervisors and action way, way over the casino's limits.

                    Unknown to a lot of people, some really big action was also on 'rooster' fights in Arizona that players who came to Vegas asked for a limo to get to 'a friend's ranch'.

                    Moral of the story is a player is going to find the action, wherever it is.

                    No state Pick 3 has wiped out policy games.

                    Good insider info posting, Coin, even I did not realize just how bad it can get here!

                    MoneyPlays >>>>>>

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                      Posted: October 6, 2014, 10:46 pm - IP Logged

                      100% of those that play the lottery will die.

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                        Whomever is running things.

                        What are the "things" "they" are running?

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                          Good insider info posting, Coin, even I did not realize just how bad it can get here!

                          MoneyPlays >>>>>>

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                          Edessa_Knight,

                          (No thread hijack intended, just a story):

                          Some of the biggest legal sports betting used to be at , believe it or not, Little Caesar's. Don't even know if it's still there, but if I remember right they're the ones who booked Stupak's $1M bet on the Super Bowl when Cincinnati lost but covered the spread.

                          A lot of pro sports bettors had runners going up and down the strip calling in odds from different books. There was a bank of pay phones behind Little Caesars' with a bunch of guys always waiting for calls. Some poor tourist would go to make a call on one of those phones and every one would yell to stay off the phone because they had an important call coming in.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Edessa_Knight,

                            (No thread hijack intended, just a story):

                            Some of the biggest legal sports betting used to be at , believe it or not, Little Caesar's. Don't even know if it's still there, but if I remember right they're the ones who booked Stupak's $1M bet on the Super Bowl when Cincinnati lost but covered the spread.

                            A lot of pro sports bettors had runners going up and down the strip calling in odds from different books. There was a bank of pay phones behind Little Caesars' with a bunch of guys always waiting for calls. Some poor tourist would go to make a call on one of those phones and every one would yell to stay off the phone because they had an important call coming in.

                            More excellent insider information Coin. Sorry, I did not intend to imply you were hijacking the thread (the reference meant as in LV). I commend & not demean your earnest these entertaining yet significant unknown revelations.

                            What you know, but don't know you know, affects you more than you know."                  That's the bottom line of hundreds of experiments on the powers of intuition according to
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                              100% of those that play the lottery will die.

                              What if they don't die, what will you say then?

                              I need proof.